Collector tanks buff, tier 8 to 10
WG, after 2.0, all collector tanks where left in dust, and that is not good thing for game, you should buff all of them, from tier 1 to 10, but today i wish to talk about higher tiers.
Because no matter what people think about those tanks, they are still in MM and in battles, and those tanks creates disproportions between, premium, and tech tree tanks. Teams that have those tanks suffer, and it should be fixed.
I will post from my acc stats of those tanks, and will compere to rest of tier 8, but not to premium tanks.
Let talk about tanks;
1. JPanther 2
By my stats in compere to all tier 8 TD i own, but some of them I didint play for years
Jp II dont look too badly, but what imho this TD lack is HP, difference is huge, base 1150 is now day too low, for how big this TD is, with paper hull, and holes in armor around gun mantlet, bad gun dep, huge silhouette, its neither sniper TD, not frontline TD.
If this TD is meant to be support TD, it need more reverse speed, HP buffed to 1350, and upper plate buff, or gun dep buff with removing of weakspot in upper superstructure
Its has too many weakspot in armor, so superstructure is pointless, and even if you use all of your -6.5 gun dep, upper plate dont go 200 mm effective.
Server stats from last 30 days
All of tech tree TD looks balanced, on JPII is really struggling
Tier 9.
AMX 30
Again, some of those tanks i use to play years ago, i didint know how to use some of them.
My stats in AMX 30 dont look too badly.
All that tank need is really a bit of acc, because its sniper MT, and shell penetration buff, and velocity.
Base 248 APCR and 300 HEAT is really low, when you have to face even tier 11 now days. 1.1 k for APCR and 800 for HEAT is too low.
I would buff this MT with base acc 0.34, 268 ACPR pen with 1.4 shell velocity, and 320-330 heat with 1.2.
Rest of this MT is fine.
As MT is very good, but problem is when you have to face tier 10 and tier 11, pen is not enough. Leox is the same MT, and in compere this to Leo PTA, and sniper MT, not E50, Patton or 430. This MT suffer from very bad pen.
You WG nerfed it YEARS ago. When those MT where part of tech tree. Fix it
Tier 10.
Let start with 113.
Again, My stats in this HT are not as bad, problem is gun handling, and powercreep, really kill this tank. Now day upper plate 120 mm thick is not gonna cut it, -5 gun dep from font, remove ability to make this upper plate going on auto bounce angles, and even in HD you did buff front of turret to 290, now too many tanks load gold and pen it np.
Tank is too old, you need red stabs, config, gun rammer. You cannot drop config, because fire will kill this HT.
Tank started to fight tier 11, so must be adjusted. Tank in MM is placed vs Dravec, and if some player play it, it put your team on disadvantage. Dravec is superior to this HT with armor, gun, and its not even funny.
Armor, gun handling need to be buffed in some way. This and 113BO fight Dravec, so its just silly, if one team get this, and second get Dravec.
Server stats show this HT that is the weakest, and 113 BO is even worse then normal 113. 113 and WZ 5a has to fight Dravec, its broken MM WG and you know this. Its unbalanced mess, you created.
AMX 30b and T62a.
I dont have my stat on AMX 30b, so i cannot show, but by server stats,
Put AMX 30b and T62a at bottom.
For me, fix to amx 30b is pen and shell velocity. base 248 APCR and 300 HEAT, just dont work anymore. I think its all AMX 30b really need. Mobility looks fine, view range, maybe more camo. Rest is not bad, i dont think so. Maybe better base acc, because its sniper MT after all. Concept 5 and Leo 1 are superior.
Buff gun to 268 APCR(1495 shell velocity), 33(1200 shell velocity), base acc to 0.34, that all.
T62a.
My base stats in T62a are better then BC, but i played most BC games when this thing was tier 9, and i was just bad player back in days.
Main problem with T62a, its pointless. Give it gun dep, or 115 mm gun, and buff armor. -5 degree of gun dep with 320 alpha just dont work. I struggle to win games even when going full gold, and playing selfish.
Server stats are even worse for T62a then are for AMX 30b. Its forgotten MT that need huge buffs. Its put in MM vs so strong MT it cannot compete. This MT need huge overhaul, or remove it from MM permanently.
Last tank to talk about.
FV 215.
I cannot make this HT work. You can do dmg, gun is great, have to low ammo, but gun is not problem.
Old tier 10 from tech tree, sidescraper, that cannot do this because of weakspot(pz 7 WG , same thing). Tanks have weak upper plate armor, modules are weak, rear mounted turret, so gun dep is problem.
How to fix it, upper plate buff, side armor wekaspot need to be removed, turret armor buff apart from weakspot, more ammo. Maybe mobility. Again, this HT is support, so has face AMX 50b , t57, Rino, Kran.
When its come to doing dmg, its only better then 113BO, but look on difference.
Average dmg done is 1.4 k vs 1.9 next tank. Its so bad HT. I cannot carry battles, armor dont hold up, so even if you do dmg, you have only 400 alpha, and you are forced to trade, because armor dont hold.
Just to be clear. I am not english native, second i wish to put my stats, so people dont come here to arguee, i dont play those tanks, and how no idea how to use them.
I really think because those tanks are in MM, they NEED to be buffed. Must be. Thing like this, shouldnt put one team on disadvantage because some player use hes freedom to play tanks he like.
What do you think?. Some WG employers said that those tank will be buffed. I think all of them need to be buffed. But from tier 8 to 10, in one update. Its not a huge amount of work. But for better balance, its should be done sooner then later.
Regard Ares.