u/Emperor_Kuru

Context:

The post was originally about a woman saying that women should be honest and upfront with men if they want something or don't want something and to not play 'hard to get' and just be blunt with people. It was fine to me. But some of the comments were downright misogynistic.

Have these men ever interacted with people in real life? There are many women and girls who have asked out guys, it's nothing special. I've seen it myself. And then they decide to ignore the facts I listed when there are real crimes of men attacking or murdering women who reject them, to support the statements.

I've been approached by SO many men pretending to want to be my friend when their real intentions are so very obvious. And then they'll complain about "friendzone"

u/Emperor_Kuru — 7 days ago

For ages, men are allowed to look like sewage rats, yet beauty standards for women are impossibly high. You’ve seen it countless times in the media of the average/ugly husband and hot wife. Women are shamed for caring about looks.

I understand that for some women, attraction can grow from a guy they didn’t feel as attracted to before. But for me, it just doesn’t work that way. I met a woman who thought I was a bad and shallow person just bc I felt this way. Why do I have to see any good person I have chemistry with as a potential partner when I can just be friends with them.

I’m also not demisexual, so for me, sexual/physical attraction is usually immediate. Unfortunately, it doesn’t grow no matter how good a guy’s personality is. If I found him unattractive from the start, that won’t change. Trust me, I’ve tried it multiple times.

However, I don’t treat men I find unattractive like monsters (like how men demonize or treat women they find ugly invisible). I judge men based on who they are on the inside.

But when it comes to dating, I need BOTH looks and personality. I can’t have one without the other. If I had to choose between a man who looked like a model but was a bad person, or a guy who has an amazing personality but unattractive to me, I would pick NEITHER of them. But I would respect the latter.

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u/Emperor_Kuru — 16 days ago

I see this narrative everywhere, even in feminist spaces online. I understand that every human is different, for some people, personality can spark physical attraction. But for me, that just isn’t possible. If a man isn’t generally pretty/good looking to me, I can’t find him physically attractive no matter how good our chemistry or his personality is.

I’ve tried it twice. I met a guy that was super sweet and everything, but no matter how much he made me laugh, I just wasn’t attracted at all.

What I don’t get is, why am I being seen as a bad person for not finding someone physically attractive? Why can’t I just be FRIENDS with people?

I got called shallow by another woman just bc my physical/sexual attraction couldn’t grow solely from a guy’s personality when I didn’t find him physically attractive. I prefer my sexual attraction for someone to be immediate.

My “preferences” also vary, I like skinny men, tall or short men, fit men, etc. Plus, attraction is subjective, what I find attractive may not be the same for someone else. I still see men as humans, unlike how many men don’t see women as people.

TLDR: I need both looks and personality/compatibility to date and romantically love a man, I can’t have one without the other. You’re not shallow for caring about looks, you’re only shallow if that’s the ONLY thing you care about. If I had to choose between a guy who looks like a model but has a bad personality, or a guy I find unattractive but has a great personality, I’d pick NEITHER of them, but would love to be friends with the latter.

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u/Emperor_Kuru — 16 days ago