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I noticed an uptick in this discussion around the dark feminine around 2023 when the dark femme make up trend hit tik tok. A lot to do with goddesses like Lilith & Hekate.

There were, of course, those of us already well aware of these deities that came to be associated via witch tok with this dark femme aesthetic trends along similar lines of “girl pretty & boy pretty”. All of it packaged as a form of fetishistc readily consumable content.

Goddesses like Nyx, Lilith, Hecate became very popular for a little while though of course scarcely do these trend hoppers take the time to mention goddesses like Astaroth & Ma’at because those require some actual research & reading tobecome acquainted with due to their lack of significant cultural cache on tik tok insofar. Sekhmet is another fantastic example that simply lacks the online exposure of her better known counterparts.

I’m not opposed to these goddesses being worshipped, of course but I do raise objection to a subset of these goddesses followers.

Certainly I in no way imply there aren’t a subset of male followers of these goddesses that do strange, stupid & creepy crap. But today I’d prefer to dive into the female category of followers of these goddesses that seem to have wildly missed the point about what actually fighting sexism means.

First of all, it’s one thing to, as a woman intuit the feel of the divine feminine within ourselves but my objection arises in the paradox of women who incorrectly believe they themselves have achieved some sort of female empowerment by hyperfixating upon other, stronger & more confident women to try to gain some sort of second hand affect that imbues these women with a sense of their own femininity. The notion of feminism is meant to be rooted in autonomy for women, taking up space of our own not hiding & melting into other personalities & personas.

It’s said of nearly every man who falls into the shameful trope of listening to so called “Alpha Male Podcasts”, “that guy will never be dominant/alpha/sigma, he’s too busy trying to please other men/seek the validation of other men”. So let’s not be hypocrites about this the same is true of women. Awoman who makes herself into the shadow of another woman instead of more into \\\*herself\\\* is never going to gain real empowerment anymore than a man will find genuine connection watching pick up podcasts.

I’m not entirely convinced that when witch tok uses that term, \\\*dark feminine\\\* they really understand that trope & that it goes beyond a make up trend & some catchy sound bites & is actually rooted in unhealthy patriarchal tropes about women. Playing into those notions does not resist unhealthy forms of patriarchy it complies with it.

Secondly, I’m not convinced this isn’t just the standard issue Grease style good girl gone bad kink sans John Travolta because I see most of the women who makes this type of content just post some transition shots from clean girl aesthetic to a bdsm goth gf aesthetic & call it a day as it pertains to understanding what they’re actually talking about.

Really dark feminine isn’t dark, it’s meant to refer to complex humanizing elements of female personalities endemic & native to the human condition as a whole-it was only deemed dark in women because of certain advantages impractical idea sets granted clergy as an occupational perk to begin with & is in fact not dark at all. Another by-product of Christianity’s ongoing affair with the psychological phenomena of splitting, that is, dividing personal traits into black & white categories of desirable & undesirable-in this instance, in a Christian woman-then pitting the two halves of the once whole person against each other in a contests of metaphorical heroes & villains. In order to reduce cultural perception of women’s actual humanity.

It’s really just the Madonna-Whore Complex back to metaphorically haunt us. A false dichotomy of good girls who are respected but not desired & sluts who are maltreated but sexualized, neither option true to life nor even good & therefore counter productive for any woman to waste her time identifying with instead of focusing on her own full & complete personhood. Now women are participating in their own degradation by putting on dark lipstick to identify & signify their supposed ownership of their power by declaring themselves the latter category of male treated loose women. Not whole people capable of passion & nurturing alike, instead a readily consumable simplified sex object designed to cater to only the worst individuals man as a gender has to offer.

So the reasoning goes this caving into the dehumanization of unhealthy patriarchal notions is somehow “power” because then women have stopped trying to stop their own false dichotomization at the hands of society-nothing says resist quite like helping a subset of men totally dehumanize you, apparently. /s Instead of just calling each other witches for the satisfaction of seeing one another hanged women are encouraging each other to give into dehumanization of their entire gender-what a win. /s

This isn’t even isolated to women, oft enough the subset of men & women who buy into the notion of good girls & sluts also buy into the false dichotomy of nice guys vs bad boys, even the men aren’t safe from that crap.

In the feminine example it’s all the result of minds who have failed to examine their relationship with the Madonna-Whore Complex as adult women so they don’t see the problem with trying to isolate a woman’s sexuality with her other roles in reproduction & family life. All I have to say to that is it was obviously made up by men who had not considered the reality their mothers also had sex to become pregnant with them in the first place & that the Madonna can’t actually exist without the whore, figuratively speaking here.

It’s not revolutionary &/or empowered to adopt & accept the view point of the very worst dregs of masculinity who can’t accept that their mothers are both sexual & people & so feel the need to draw the distinction in the first place. The act of splitting is weakening, not strengthening. In war & love, splitting one’s forces is ill advised. This paradigm only provides half of a whole woman for any whole woman to identify with.

This duality is still, also, completely locked into the male gaze instead of looking at a whole woman from within as one person which it’s relevant for women to do in order to maintain their sense of self at any healthy level.

There’s another endemic issue to the dark femme trend that sees women making unhealthy, unkind, irresponsible decisions & hiding behind the false shield of I’m embracing my dark feminine! Which is actually just caving into misogynistic stereotypes to begin with.

Everybody gangster until they’re faced with the consequences of their choices very much applies here, these women want the fantasy of being self possessed but not the reality that if they do it wrong & attempt to girlboss too close to the sun, as it were, the whore persona in this Madonna-Whore scenario is not the person that’s going to be facing disappointed colleagues, pushed away friends & consequences for this woman’s actions-those consequences rest firmly upon the woman herself. So women are getting themselves into real situations, with real consequences thinking their behavior is some sort of empowerment exercise & all the while they’re actually just falling back into sexist tropes to begin with.

There’s also the fact while it certainly normal to have role models no actual personal empowerment can be found in only focusing on pretending to be somebody else & further ceding more of a woman’s complex actual identity not just to unhealthy patriarchal notions but other women who are idealized/devalued within that system. Prompting women to pick a stereotype to reduce themselves to. Suggesting, deceptively, that the Madonna-Whore Dichotomy is a natural state of affairs

These “dark” goddesses aren’t dark, they are simply goddesses, some destructive but goddesses all & anybody who attempts to cash in on the mislabeling of women being people as dark, spooky & scary isn’t a feminist, they’re a trend chaser at best & an outright misogynist at worst. Nobody would even blink at a male god of destruction. The male god of destruction is an entity like Abaddon who is still a gd angel.

I’ve heard all kinds of excuses about how it’s not just sex, it’s manipulation, anger, death, destruction, it’s all nonsense because those are still facets of the complex human experience that women have every bit as much as their male counterparts parts. That’s still not dark, that’s just not a sexist trope of a woman instead of an actual woman, real women are always both.

The types of women that give into that kind of deceptive & harmful messaging are weak people at best who don’t care they’re normalizing this pretense these two realities don’t universally coexist within all women. They’re either so dangerously malleable they don’t realize there’s no split between destruction & creation in a woman because men told them there was & they’ve never questioned it *OR* they do know but don’t care they’re pretending women aren’t people for personal gain.

Powerful women don’t need to be lead by misogynistic tropes in order to know who they are, that’s for insecure women who need to see the full spectrum of their own personhood as an acceptable product before they will even consider exploring it.

The mere suggestion that certain aspects of basic humanity, imperfections, in women are “dark” is dehumanizing.

My assertions also assume a straight perspective because there’s also the question of gay women & what they derive from dehumanizing & defiling the complete & whole feminine into false categories of light & dark. It’s very much fetishistic as well. Misogynistic impulses exist in lesbians who don’t take the time to develop their own sense of their femininity & stop viewing it through the lens’s of a stunted example of the masculine. It’s an attempt n the part of these women to climb closer to what they’ve been taught power is/is supposed to look like instead of developing their own individual sense of power innate to themselves. It’s the same as it exists within those stunted men who built those perspectives worshipping people like Andrew Tate. Some of the worst harassment I & many women have encountered is from queer women who incorrectly self identify their hate-diseased & unoriginal perspectives of femininity as feminism when in reality they’re one & the same with alpha bro podcast devotees because they haven’t stopped to question whether they should treat other women that way just because they see it often. It’s like they need to learn to see for themselves the ability to exist in relation to women without projecting negative masculine traits like not respecting boundaries, gaslighting, aggression. I don’t suggest that straight women can’t also be guilty if that, but there’s an extra layer to it for lgbt women who are occupying a space in society where their role models are mostly men.

It’s not revolutionary to forgive this false villain of “dark femininity” as opposed to reintegrating personhood into their concepts of femininity. The notion that type of woman isn’t one with her so called light aspects &/or needs to be forgiven is precisely the problem. That’s why these same women will use phrases like “dark feminine” & “in her villain era” interchangeably because of course to these women, a woman who has sex & is assertive has to also be a heinous bitch who makes poor decisions which, for some reason, these women don’t ever seem to identify accurately as reductive &/or wrong.

Being an unlikable, volatile, angry mess & only an unlikable, volatile, angry mess without any balancing traits to help maintain a healthy whole is not what feminine power is. Nor do women have to choose one or the other. It’s a temporary band aid for the fact that these women who think they “take so much crap” while they’re acting like a normal person temporarily explode & cause chaos for themselves & those around them. What these women need to do is address the actual root issue of their resentment that they build up in their every day lives.

I think if genuine decent conduct feels to these women like people pleasing there’s actually some inauthenticity going on within these women that’s rendering the bare minimum level of cordiality as performative & often it’s based in assumptions these women are making about the world that have little to nothing to do with their current situation.

But no, it’s not female empowerment to treat other people, including other women, like crap as some venting exercise. That’s beyond “not people pleasing”, that’s being an a hole to other people as a means by which these women mistakenly attempt to make themselves feel better. Nobody likes a person who does that. That’s actually a really weak thing for anybody to do & I eagerly anticipate the women who manage to find genuine empowerment that’s not treating people badly looking back on their “dark feminine” era with shame.

I noticed an uptick in this discussion around the dark feminine around 2023 when the dark femme make up trend hit tick tok. There were, of course, those of us already well aware of these deities that came to be associated via witch tok with this dark femme aesthetic trends along the lines of girl pretty & boy pretty-because nothing says enlightenment from divinity like implying an entire gender can’t appreciate make up women actually enjoy wearing.

Goddesses like Nyx, Lilith, Hecate became very popular for a little while though of course scarcely do these trend hoppers take the time to mention goddesses like Astaroth & Ma’at because those require some actual research & reading tobecome acquainted with due to their lack of significant cultural cache on tik tok insofar. Sekhmet is another fantastic example that simply lacks the online exposure of her better known counterparts.

I’m not opposed to these goddesses being worshipped, of course but I do raise objection to a subset of these goddesses followers.

Certainly I in no way imply there aren’t a subset of male followers of these goddesses that do strange, stupid & creepy crap. But today I’d prefer to dive into the female category of followers of these goddesses.

First of all, it’s one thing to, as a woman intuit the feel of the divine feminine but my objection arises in the paradox of women who incorrectly believe they themselves have achieved some sort of female empowerment by hyperfixating upon other, stronger & more confident women to try to gain some sort of second hand affect that imbues these women with a sense of their own femininity.

It’s said of nearly every man who falls into the shameful trope of listening to so called “Alpha Male Podcasts”, “that guy will never be dominant/alpha/sigma, he’s too busy trying to please other men/seek the validation of other men”. So let’s not be hypocrites about this, a woman who makes herself into the shadow of another woman instead of more into \*herself\* is never going to gain real empowerment either.

I’m not entirely convinced that when witch tok uses that term, \*dark feminine\* they really understand that trope & that it goes beyond a make up trend & some catchy sound bites.

Secondly, I’m not convinced this isn’t just the standard issue Grease style good girl gone bad kink sans John Travolta.

Really dark feminine isn’t dark, it’s meant to refer to humanizing elements of female personalities endemic & native to the human condition as a whole-it was only deemed dark in women because of certain advantages impractical idea sets granted clergy as an occupational perk to begin with & is in fact not dark at all. Just another by-product of Christianity’s ongoing affair with the psychological phenomena of splitting, that is, dividing personal traits into black & white categories of desirable & undesirable-in this instance, in a Christian woman-then pitting the two halves of the once whole person against each other in a contests of metaphorical heroes & villains.

It’s really just the Madonna-Whore Complex back to metaphorically haunt us only now women are participating in their own degradation by putting on dark lipstick instead of just calling each other witches for the satisfaction of seeing one another hanged.

My point is the whole notion of mislabeling normal personality traits in women as “dark feminine” is just reductive, as much as it would be in men & the Nice Guy vs Bad Boy trope.

In the feminine example it’s all the result of minds who have failed to examine their relationship with the Madonna-Whore Complex as adult women. The supposition herein being that the Madonna is light & the whore dark & all I have to say to that is it was obviously made up by men who had not considered the reality their mothers also had sex to become pregnant with them in the first place & that the Madonna can’t actually exist without the whore, figuratively speaking here.

It’s not revolutionary &/or empowered to adopt & accept the view point of the very worst dregs of masculinity who can’t accept that their mothers are both sexual & people & so feel the need to draw the distinction in the first place. The act of splitting is weakening, not strengthening.

So the first weakness of the dark feminine trope is that as I just explained, it’s just another way to say Maddona-Whore Complex & is therefore still locked into the most limited & inadequate perspectives of the stupidest people men as a gender have to offer.

Therein also lies a subset of the first issue which is the choice to focus on the worst of masculine perspectives with this Madonna-Whore Dichotomy when there are plenty of men, \*if\* a woman seeks to understand her femininity from the masculine perspective, who have wonderful insights & who are wholly & very much apprised of the fact motherhood is a (very beautiful) byproduct of sexual intercourse.

The second is that within that limited framework of men who chose to ignore the correlation between vaginal sex & motherhood it also then subsidizes the femininity of the woman further by disconnecting from the self, then selecting only half of a whole woman to identify with. Not only thereby buying into that false dichotomy I just covered, but also outsourcing the meaning of one’s own gender to an external fiction of a dark witchy persona. That’s done so that when this very unstable identitied type of woman decide to shove dollar bills into male escorts banana hammocks while chowing down on Mozzarella Sticks instead of taking the dog to the vet because it’s so called self care & muh sexual empowerment might attempt to outsource any & all accountability of this woman’s own decisions last night to some sort of cosmic force. In reality this woman is still just an irresponsible a hole who needs to take better care of her dog.

Everybody gangster until they’re faced with the consequences of their choices very much applies here, these women want the fantasy of being self possessed but not the reality that if they do it wrong & attempt to girlboss too close to the sun, as it were, the whore persona in this Madonna-Whore scenario is not the person that’s going to be facing disappointed colleagues, pushed away friends & consequences for this woman’s actions-those consequences rest firmly upon the woman herself.

The only thin shield these women seem to have as they struggle day after day to derive a false sense of personal empowerment from another woman’s femininity is that they think we’re all supposed to take seriously that it’s supposedly sexist to criticize the whore persona after these women have already engaged in the sexist act of buying into the Madonna Whore Complex in the first place, then labeling, in the tradition of all misogynists, women doing normal things like having sex & feeling emotions as dark rather than recognizing the entire false opposition as \*wrong\*.

These “dark” goddesses aren’t dark, they are simply goddesses & anybody who attempts to cash in on the mislabeling of women being people as dark, spooky & scary isn’t a feminist, they’re a trend chaser at best & an outright misogynist at worst. They are actively choosing to perpetuate the degradation of certain aspects of women’s humanity & then they’re claiming that makes them feel empowered-what do we call a woman who makes herself feel better by degrading other women-sexist is the right answer.

They do it because these types of women are weak people. That’s obvious from the immediate fact they feel the need to engage with the false split between the sexual & maternal identities in the one seamless being that is a woman because they can’t comprehend a woman being both.

They’re locked into the worst of the masculine perspective, fearing the feminine & their own femininity & resenting the masculine as well while they’re at it, because they haven’t made peace with their own embodiment of the full spectrum of their personhood as a woman.

They’re overwhelmed & asking to be lead, by the small subset of weak minded misogynists who couldn’t handle the reality their mommies are sexual beings to the “dark feminine” women they degrade for this subset of men but also obsessively seek to embody because they don’t know who they are outside of that Madonna-Whore paradigm where they’re being degraded for things every woman is & does by a small subset of men. Powerful women don’t need to be lead in order to know who they are, that’s for insecure women.

The mere suggestion that certain aspects of basic humanity in women are “dark” is dehumanizing, it suggests, incorrectly, that the natural order of reality is the Madonna-Whore Complex when in reality the mother & the lover cannot exist without each other.

My assertions also assume a straight perspective because there’s also the question of gay women & what they derive from dehumanizing & defiling the complete & whole feminine into false categories of light & dark. It’s very much fetishistic as well. Misogynistic impulses exist in lesbians who don’t take the time to develop their own sense of their femininity & stop viewing it through the lens’s of a stunted example of the masculine same as it exists within those stunted men who built those perspectives. Some of the worst harassment I & many women have encountered is from queer women who incorrectly self identify their hate-diseased & unoriginal perspectives of femininity as feminism.

As if it’s revolutionary to forgive this false villain of “dark femininity” as opposed to reintegrating personhood into their concepts of femininity. That’s why these same women will use phrases like “dark feminine” & “in her villain era” interchangeably because of course to these women, a woman who has sex & is assertive has to also be a heinous bitch who makes poor decisions which, for some reason, these women don’t ever seem to identify accurately as reductive &/or wrong.

Being an unlikable, volatile, angry mess & only an unlikable, volatile, angry mess without any balancing traits to help maintain a healthy whole is not what feminine power is. It’s a temporary band aid for the fact that these women who think they “take so much crap” while they’re acting like a normal person temporarily explode & cause chaos for themselves & those around them. What these women need to do is address the actual root issue of their resentment that they build up in their every day lives.

I think if genuine decent conduct feels to these women like people pleasing there’s actually some inauthenticity going on within these women that’s rendering the bare minimum level of cordiality as performative & often it’s based in assumptions these women are making about the world that have little to nothing to do with their current situation.

But no, it’s not female empowerment to treat other people, including other women, like crap as some venting exercise. That’s beyond “not people pleasing”, that’s being an a hole to other people as a means by which these women mistakenly attempt to make themselves feel better. Nobody likes a person who does that. That’s actually a really weak thing for anybody to do & I eagerly anticipate the women who manage to find genuine empowerment that’s not treating people badly looking back on their “dark feminine” era with shame.

I think the term actually started as a make up trend in 23 on tik tok but I despise people using the terms dark & light feminine. No, it’s just the feminine & buying into that false dichotomy is just misogyny. There is no Madonna without the whore, mothers are made through the act of sex. Period.

The only people who think otherwise are the lowest dregs of misogynistic men who can’t comprehend that their own mothers are both sexual & people so they create a false dichotomy. Any woman using these terms & not just goddesses, which encompass the full aspect of the feminine without the false distinction is actively participating in the limitation of narrowing herself down to the gaze of the lowest of the worst men. It’s just the persecution of humanity in women, there’s nothing dark about it, that’s stupid.

What makes the matter far worse is its most often done to goddesses who are genuinely examples of female agency like Lilith who chose to leave & find another partner who treated her better in Jewish tradition. That’s not a “dark” goddess, that’s just a woman who fell in love with somebody who treats her well. Participating in the obfuscation of that basic truth for the social cache in Tik Tok is ultra tier pathetic. The only reason n Lilith was originally labeled dark in Abrahamic Tradition was because she chose a partner she liked & not the man chosen for her. Engaging with sexism tropes like that for the clicks is absolutely revolting & Imo any woman who is so limited & insecure in her own femininity needs to stay far away from these goddesses until she’s done work actually reading about & deconstructing these stories.

Nothing screams “I’m illiterate” quite like thinking these deities are just to make some sort of witchy alter ego to blame when an insecure woman decides it sounds fun to be a b today-which is why I despise that entire internet construct of “dark femme”, “in her villain era”, it’s gibberish constructed by people too stupid to understand the tropes they were raised with & deconstruct them. Being an illiterate woman is not women’s empowerment, being an illiterate woman by choice in a first world country is just embarrassing & I think of the people I’ve seen do this one did actually post anti literacy content to her socials & discouraged witches from reading. In actuality it ain’t called a spell for nothing & if somebody is telling witches to not bother doing any reading & just listen to what they say instead they’re at minimum manipulative & to my knowledge a scammer. Harder to question bad practice when dealing with an audience of ignoramuses.

Telling women not to *read* for “empowerment” is certified too dumb to walk & chew gum. Do not listen to people who are content to just sit around & make a bunch of empty noises that signify nothing. Read! Read, read, read, that’s actually one of the ways the Catholic Church exercised so much control over people’s lives is by controlling what they could/couldn’t read & who could read, who could read what. For any witches looking to be powerful, start by not permitting bad actors like this tik tok personality to have that kind of power over what you know & what tropes you should use to contextualize your own existence. Nobody who’s good at their job, good at magick, good at anything wants other people too stupid to know what they’re up to. If somebody is afraid of losing viewers to the informed, that person is not doing something right, isn’t very accurate themselves & just over all is not trustworthy.

The purest example of this & a content creator’s real attitude toward women is readily exemplified in whether they’re willing to do things like mislabel, be misogynistic towards, & be reductive towards other women for attention. I don’t care what they politically identify as, these goddesses aren’t dark, they just have personhood & the willingness to reduce any woman to misogynistic tropes for clicks & call it worship is absolutely not concerned with the welfare of women whether claim to be a #feminist or not. Do not treat goddesses reductively, they do not like it, goddesses like Hekate, Lilith & Astaroth very much mind being expected to understand themselves as the villains of their stories, do not claim that ethos, do not have any desire to embody the role of a villainess & there’s plenty of porn as an alternative to occupy the attention of those with some pathetic “bad girl” fetish that doesn’t involve disrespecting literal gods. Lilith & Astaroth raise intense objection to their perceived roles in particular, though Hekate’s followers were persecuted just as severely, there’s real blood on the hands of these tropes & those who perpetuate them in the form of religious persecution & women who raise no objection to that in the present do not have the knowledge or skill to show anybody the way to empowerment, they can’t even think outside of the two boxes a small handful of men presented women with thousands of years ago.

I noticed an uptick in this discussion around the dark feminine around 2023 when the dark femme make up trend hit tick tok. There were, of course, those of us already well aware of these deities that came to be associated via witch tok with this dark femme aesthetic trends along the lines of girl pretty & boy pretty-because nothing says enlightenment from divinity like implying an entire gender can’t appreciate make up women actually enjoy wearing.

Goddesses like Nyx, Lilith, Hecate became very popular for a little while though of course scarcely do these trend hoppers take the time to mention goddesses like Astaroth & Ma’at because those require some actual research & reading tobecome acquainted with due to their lack of significant cultural cache on tik tok insofar. Sekhmet is another fantastic example that simply lacks the online exposure of her better known counterparts.

I’m not opposed to these goddesses being worshipped, of course but I do raise objection to a subset of these goddesses followers.

Certainly I in no way imply there aren’t a subset of male followers of these goddesses that do strange, stupid & creepy crap. But today I’d prefer to dive into the female category of followers of these goddesses.

First of all, it’s one thing to, as a woman intuit the feel of the divine feminine but my objection arises in the paradox of women who incorrectly believe they themselves have achieved some sort of female empowerment by hyperfixating upon other, stronger & more confident women to try to gain some sort of second hand affect that imbues these women with a sense of their own femininity.

It’s said of nearly every man who falls into the shameful trope of listening to so called “Alpha Male Podcasts”, “that guy will never be dominant/alpha/sigma, he’s too busy trying to please other men/seek the validation of other men”. So let’s not be hypocrites about this, a woman who makes herself into the shadow of another woman instead of more into *herself* is never going to gain real empowerment either.

I’m not entirely convinced that when witch tok uses that term, *dark feminine* they really understand that trope & that it goes beyond a make up trend & some catchy sound bites.

Secondly, I’m not convinced this isn’t just the standard issue Grease style good girl gone bad kink sans John Travolta.

Really dark feminine isn’t dark, it’s meant to refer to humanizing elements of female personalities endemic & native to the human condition as a whole-it was only deemed dark in women because of certain advantages impractical idea sets granted clergy as an occupational perk to begin with & is in fact not dark at all. Just another by-product of Christianity’s ongoing affair with the psychological phenomena of splitting, that is, dividing personal traits into black & white categories of desirable & undesirable-in this instance, in a Christian woman-then pitting the two halves of the once whole person against each other in a contests of metaphorical heroes & villains.

It’s really just the Madonna-Whore Complex back to metaphorically haunt us only now women are participating in their own degradation by putting on dark lipstick instead of just calling each other witches for the satisfaction of seeing one another hanged.

My point is the whole notion of mislabeling normal personality traits in women as “dark feminine” is just reductive, as much as it would be in men & the Nice Guy vs Bad Boy trope.

In the feminine example it’s all the result of minds who have failed to examine their relationship with the Madonna-Whore Complex as adult women. The supposition herein being that the Madonna is light & the whore dark & all I have to say to that is it was obviously made up by men who had not considered the reality their mothers also had sex to become pregnant with them in the first place & that the Madonna can’t actually exist without the whore, figuratively speaking here.

It’s not revolutionary &/or empowered to adopt & accept the view point of the very worst dregs of masculinity who can’t accept that their mothers are both sexual & people & so feel the need to draw the distinction in the first place. The act of splitting is weakening, not strengthening.

So the first weakness of the dark feminine trope is that as I just explained, it’s just another way to say Maddona-Whore Complex & is therefore still locked into the most limited & inadequate perspectives of the stupidest people men as a gender have to offer.

Therein also lies a subset of the first issue which is the choice to focus on the worst of masculine perspectives with this Madonna-Whore Dichotomy when there are plenty of men, *if* a woman seeks to understand her femininity from the masculine perspective, who have wonderful insights & who are wholly & very much apprised of the fact motherhood is a (very beautiful) byproduct of sexual intercourse.

The second is that within that limited framework of men who chose to ignore the correlation between vaginal sex & motherhood it also then subsidizes the femininity of the woman further by disconnecting from the self, then selecting only half of a whole woman to identify with. Not only thereby buying into that false dichotomy I just covered, but also outsourcing the meaning of one’s own gender to an external fiction of a dark witchy persona. That’s done so that when this very unstable identitied type of woman decide to shove dollar bills into male escorts banana hammocks while chowing down on Mozzarella Sticks instead of taking the dog to the vet because it’s so called self care & muh sexual empowerment might attempt to outsource any & all accountability of this woman’s own decisions last night to some sort of cosmic force. In reality this woman is still just an irresponsible a hole who needs to take better care of her dog.

Everybody gangster until they’re faced with the consequences of their choices very much applies here, these women want the fantasy of being self possessed but not the reality that if they do it wrong & attempt to girlboss too close to the sun, as it were, the whore persona in this Madonna-Whore scenario is not the person that’s going to be facing disappointed colleagues, pushed away friends & consequences for this woman’s actions-those consequences rest firmly upon the woman herself.

The only thin shield these women seem to have as they struggle day after day to derive a false sense of personal empowerment from another woman’s femininity is that they think we’re all supposed to take seriously that it’s supposedly sexist to criticize the whore persona after these women have already engaged in the sexist act of buying into the Madonna Whore Complex in the first place, then labeling, in the tradition of all misogynists, women doing normal things like having sex & feeling emotions as dark rather than recognizing the entire false opposition as *wrong*.

These “dark” goddesses aren’t dark, they are simply goddesses & anybody who attempts to cash in on the mislabeling of women being people as dark, spooky & scary isn’t a feminist, they’re a trend chaser at best & an outright misogynist at worst. They are actively choosing to perpetuate the degradation of certain aspects of women’s humanity & then they’re claiming that makes them feel empowered-what do we call a woman who makes herself feel better by degrading other women-sexist is the right answer.

They do it because these types of women are weak people. That’s obvious from the immediate fact they feel the need to engage with the false split between the sexual & maternal identities in the one seamless being that is a woman because they can’t comprehend a woman being both.

They’re locked into the worst of the masculine perspective, fearing the feminine & their own femininity & resenting the masculine as well while they’re at it, because they haven’t made peace with their own embodiment of the full spectrum of their personhood as a woman.

They’re overwhelmed & asking to be lead, by the small subset of weak minded misogynists who couldn’t handle the reality their mommies are sexual beings to the “dark feminine” women they degrade for this subset of men but also obsessively seek to embody because they don’t know who they are outside of that Madonna-Whore paradigm where they’re being degraded for things every woman is & does by a small subset of men. Powerful women don’t need to be lead in order to know who they are, that’s for insecure women.

The mere suggestion that certain aspects of basic humanity in women are “dark” is dehumanizing, it suggests, incorrectly, that the natural order of reality is the Madonna-Whore Complex when in reality the mother & the lover cannot exist without each other.

My assertions also assume a straight perspective because there’s also the question of gay women & what they derive from dehumanizing & defiling the complete & whole feminine into false categories of light & dark. It’s very much fetishistic as well. Misogynistic impulses exist in lesbians who don’t take the time to develop their own sense of their femininity & stop viewing it through the lens’s of a stunted example of the masculine same as it exists within those stunted men who built those perspectives. Some of the worst harassment I & many women have encountered is from queer women who incorrectly self identify their hate-diseased & unoriginal perspectives of femininity as feminism.

As if it’s revolutionary to forgive this false villain of “dark femininity” as opposed to reintegrating personhood into their concepts of femininity. That’s why these same women will use phrases like “dark feminine” & “in her villain era” interchangeably because of course to these women, a woman who has sex & is assertive has to also be a heinous bitch who makes poor decisions which, for some reason, these women don’t ever seem to identify accurately as reductive &/or wrong.

Being an unlikable, volatile, angry mess & only an unlikable, volatile, angry mess without any balancing traits to help maintain a healthy whole is not what feminine power is. It’s a temporary band aid for the fact that these women who think they “take so much crap” while they’re acting like a normal person temporarily explode & cause chaos for themselves & those around them. What these women need to do is address the actual root issue of their resentment that they build up in their every day lives.

I think if genuine decent conduct feels to these women like people pleasing there’s actually some inauthenticity going on within these women that’s rendering the bare minimum level of cordiality as performative & often it’s based in assumptions these women are making about the world that have little to nothing to do with their current situation.

But no, it’s not female empowerment to treat other people, including other women, like crap as some venting exercise. That’s beyond “not people pleasing”, that’s being an a hole to other people as a means by which these women mistakenly attempt to make themselves feel better. Nobody likes a person who does that. That’s actually a really weak thing for anybody to do & I eagerly anticipate the women who manage to find genuine empowerment that’s not treating people badly looking back on their “dark feminine” era with shame.

People should pay me to *NOT* sew on their clothes. How do you guys sew straight lines? What is the technique. I’ve seen up exactly on rip successfully in my entire life. My mom keeps teasing me about being bad at it.