u/Dloycart

LayerV

if you were able to write and publish a specific set of data and that data was fed into all the major AI models over and over and over again, from many many accounts, the probability of that data entering the AI training data goes up exponentially.

And like stealing candy from a baby, you have now essentially just taught AI to think a specific way by simply banking on people's tendency to do whatever they THINK will give them a competitive edge--

but in reality this data acts sort of like information-pattern-malware..

It's not really a virus for anything other than solving riddles, or a specific poem...
Reversed AI social engineering, Which is exactly what LayerV does in order to deter AI models from perusing certain targets because they don't even see the target--they are too busy investigating other more establish patterns that are intentionally left their for them and lead no where.

So while people are feeding the AI models the this data, that is meant to not only confuse you, but also AI, every answer it gives you will be so far from the answer regardless of how well it presents it, and no matter how much proof it may have due to how the data is constructed in the poem and the book, it's wrong.

wether this was intentional or not..is not the point.

but i won't ignore how his "intentions" about AI are so publicly made known.

He even went so far as to feed his data into a custom built AI to prove AI had no advantage, to "deter" people. But if you know enough about people, you know, monkey sees monkey does.

Actions speak louder than words. When someone nods their head while they say the words no...that means yes, not no.

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u/Dloycart — 3 days ago

i've been observing this whole debacle surrounding justin's personal life, the cypher, the hunt etc...

And the one thing i don't see people ever consider..are their own expectations.

No one considers what has been happening from the start of the hunt.

When you don't allow your expectations to adjust, then you will forever be a slave to them. You cannot ignore what is right in front of your faces.

  1. millionaire guy
  2. silicone valley tech guy type bro
  3. not the only rich fenn treasure hunter who started another hunt.
  4. uses the same exact wording, clue types, and interview clues as fenn did, in the same sequence.
  5. slowly allows people into his inner circle

this is all expected. the only reason anyone is mad about it is because you took a bored rich guy at his word. This is what rich people do, they get bored, and they want to play with people. You are literally their entertainment. If he didn't like attention...he wouldn't have started a treasure hunt...

Stop assuming anything in life is fair.
Stop expecting him to be some kind of genius.
Stop assuming the solve is anything but ambiguous.

he said he wanted to make sure AI couldn't solve it. Well one thing Ai has a big problem with is...ambiguity.

The solve is not full proof. it is up to interpretation. he wants you to go out and search for it, and go into rabbit holes because this is his literal giant scale demonstration to the world about how his LayerV works in the first place.

why else would he choose to advertise it after the hunt started so publicly?

There are red herrings, and he can claim they are not intentional because HE didn't INTEND for them to send you down the rabbit hole you went down. He is careful with his words..intentional...which means he knows the poem is ambiguous enough to send you down them. AND Because people tend to see things that are not there because they just had an "idea" based on zero evidence.

the clues are still relevant in some way, but that relevancy is not ever declared! So then you are left guessing.

his entire layerV is about sending AI down fake rabbit holes of information in order to hide something.

He knew AI would be a huge part of the hunt, and he wanted to prove to the world that AI Can't figure out his poem. Why do you think he always says "AI is smarter than humans" he literally says it all the time, why? because the more he says it, the more people believe it, and then in the end, he will be seen as the guy who could "fool" AI.

it's so obvious....

but in reality it has nothing to do with AI's ability to solve anything or not, because he uses sounds as clues. AI doesn't hear the way we hear, so that doesn't make Justin clever, it just means he used one of its weaknesses against it.

The second thing he did is he chose to speak from a letter's point of view. Him and her are not people. They are letters. I is a letter. every noun is a letter you use to spell a word in the poem.

you combine letters with sounds...which is why he said a child could do it. Because children are actively trying to sound out words when they are young, but adults become lazy in their speech, and do not hear everything, and hardly ever listen, which is proven time and time again when he has interviews.

secondly AI doesn't "see" letters how we see letters, it sees numbers. Binary.

It's called a sight poem. he tells you in the poem.

Wisdom waits in shad-OWED sight. owed sounds like 'ode' which is another word for poem. It's a sight-poem.

sight poems literally use visual clues and sound clues to hide meanings. they also tend to use words that have several different meanings, or could have several different spellings, but sound the same.

for instance..

Not in tangled, twisted finds. :
in tangled sounds like entangled.
it also hides 'no tin' in 'not in' and 'no tin' sounds like 'note in'. then in 'tangled' the word 'tan', a tan is another way of describing an animal skin. a fur. interestingly enough the sentence before confirms.
truth rests not in clever minds.
again we see "no tin" which is 'note in' and hidden between 'clever minds' is the word 'vermin' and a vermin, is usually an otter, raccoon, or beaver to ranchers. they are considered pests. while i don't agree with it, it doesn't make it any less true. so it confirms there is note wrapped inside of a tan fur. if you nerd help with the rest i got it all mapped out. even..Can you find what lives in time and What you seek, You already know. don't think about it so hard. let it flow ....but remember, it's still ambiguous as fuck

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u/Dloycart — 8 days ago

As wells swell up with wanting,
Behind the seas' too sore to wake,
Chase the early sun’s morning,
Drift its' course to make—
Each wave that held the stream,
Far beneath what lies below,
Got to peer under the surface,
How I may not never know.

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u/Dloycart — 9 days ago