u/Destruidor_demundos

already know the amout of downplay was vast, but when I made my post about the cosmology, I saw this in highest way possible.

Thi people will say that is wrong or vague. Or having dishonest and toxic behavior. The guy you can see in the screenshots are an perfect example of that.

Not only lying about direct statements as matt comfirming that each realm has his own outer space/cosmo. This guy literally said that a thumbs ups means nothing when means that you agree with something, and make feel like matt was suffering a harassment on a casual conversation when he is answering a persons questions. This guys also make themself illiterate. This guy doesn't know what valid means, he said that valid doesn't mean canon or correct when valid means true, yeah, this are the level of humilation that this guy are in well spirit to do just to downplay a verse. And the other is just hilarious. Is he doesn't underestanding that being on a literal branch and called it like a branch streching to infinity means that the branch is infinite, is kinda obvious, but for this guys nothing of that matters since the agende is they top priority. You can see clearly that guy lying and even ignoring my scan from the script that states that Yggdrasil is infinite, since he can't warp at his will to make appear is vague.

And the worst is that people still eat it, even though you can see all signs of dishonest behavior. Anyway, I don't want any harm to them and I don't think they lack of interpretation they are just lying because they don't want to be that way. Atleast here a normal people where that believe but have good reasons and not just fallacies.

Good day to everyone.

The 9 realms are the main scenario of both, God of war 2018 and God of war Ragnarök. But, what are they? Planets? Universes? Or alternative dimensions? In this post, I will gave all the details that we know about the realms, this will include:

1. Game statements.

2. Dev's statements.

3. Novel/book statements.

4. Visual indicatores along the games.

Starting with, the realms are universes, as stated by Matt Sophos two times, each realm has his own cosmo, this is also showed in Valhala and the representation of Týr's temple of the realm where they seem to be galaxies, with Valhalla showing each realm with his own sky/cosmos. Ymir is stated to be a cosmo and the realm are made of Ymir, something that the Ymir mural in GoW 2018 showed (sky referes to cosmo in this context since is where the stars exist). Other things that show that is the fact of being separated realities, realm tears are tear in reality itself but still only affects one realm. The Bifröst, the only medium to travel between realm is stated to use factured reality to travel between them.

But here comes a misconception, that realms exist in the same space do to sharing the same physical space. But that's not true. The realms are planes of existence thar overlap each other, there a like a building, for example, each floor of that being a realm and the place where the building is being the physical space, that what they mean with physical space. They are the """"same'""" but in different dimenions of understanding. If you are in B in Midgard, you would be in B in Asgard.

They are also separated by time, each one having his own flow and timeline. Is stated that by Mimir and showed in Ragnarök and lore and legends that times pass faster or slower depending on the realm you are, Jötunheim is much faster that Midgard some hour there is atleast two days in Midgard. And the spiritual realm like Helheim are slower that Midgard. Even ability that affects space-time itself like the realm shift can only affect one realm. Which shows that they are separated by that as well.

But what are the size of them? All realms have the same size since are refletions of each other, as I mencion in my part of the misconception, they have the same size do to being the same "place" but in different levels of existence. Which means that all of them are infinite in size. Ymir has so much blood that created an endless tide and the realms are made of Ymir, Helheim is stated to have endless wastelands which make sense since the authority of hell is eternal (having infinite hour) and you would need an infinite space to all the souls of an infinite amout of time. And Niflheim is stated to have infinite mist holding even more this size for the realms.

So until now we see that the realms are infinite sized universe (having there own space-time) existing in the same physical space in different planes of existence. But there's more about them.

Matt sophos agrees that do to kratos existing in the norse mythology that bokes who the myth works and now each realm have infinite timelines and possibilities, this make sense since is stated that Vanaheim has realms and realms doesn't mean geographical regions, and the prisons of the valkyries have there one skybox even if they are underground somewho. Which helps the consistency of the statement. There also an untold distance between the realms, probably also infinite since there are separated by distance and solitude.

There also levels of reality in the realms since the revenants travels between the "sheets of reality" making her invulnerable. In this state, she can't be affect even by time based abilities like the realm shift and the magic is also important, magic is beyond human understanding and still are a fundamental part of a realm composition as stated in GoW Ragnarök.

So, this is everything we know about the realms as a structure until now. In summary, each realm is a multi reality plane of existence that have infinite timeline and is infinite in size that is contain by magic that define his state.

The 9 realms are the main scenario of both, God of war 2018 and God of war Ragnarök. But, what are they? Planets? Universes? Or alternative dimensions? In this post, I will gave all the details that we know about the realms, this will include:

1. Game statements.

2. Dev's statements.

3. Novel/book statements.

4. Visual indicatores along the games.

Starting with, the realms are universes, as stated by Matt Sophos two times, each realm has his own cosmo, this is also showed in Valhala and the representation of Týr's temple of the realm where they seem to be galaxies, with Valhalla showing each realm with his own sky/cosmos. Ymir is stated to be a cosmo and the realm are made of Ymir, something that the Ymir mural in GoW 2018 showed (sky referes to cosmo in this context since is where the stars exist). Other things that show that is the fact of being separated realities, realm tears are tear in reality itself but still only affects one realm. The Bifröst, the only medium to travel between realm is stated to use factured reality to travel between them.

But here comes a misconception, that realms exist in the same space do to sharing the same physical space. But that's not true. The realms are planes of existence thar overlap each other, there a like a building, for example, each floor of that being a realm and the place where the building is being the physical space, that what they mean with physical space. They are the """"same'""" but in different dimenions of understanding. If you are in B in Midgard, you would be in B in Asgard.

They are also separated by time, each one having his own flow and timeline. Is stated that by Mimir and showed in Ragnarök and lore and legends that times pass faster or slower depending on the realm you are, Jötunheim is much faster that Midgard some hour there is atleast two days in Midgard. And the spiritual realm like Helheim are slower that Midgard. Even ability that affects space-time itself like the realm shift can only affect one realm. Which shows that they are separated by that as well.

But what are the size of them? All realms have the same size since are refletions of each other, as I mencion in my part of the misconception, they have the same size do to being the same "place" but in different levels of existence. Which means that all of them are infinite in size. Ymir has so much blood that created an endless tide and the realms are made of Ymir, Helheim is stated to have endless wastelands which make sense since the authority of hell is eternal (having infinite hour) and you would need an infinite space to all the souls of an infinite amout of time. And Niflheim is stated to have infinite mist holding even more this size for the realms.

So until now we see that the realms are infinite sized universe (having there own space-time) existing in the same physical space in different planes of existence. But there's more about them.

Matt sophos agrees that do to kratos existing in the norse mythology that bokes who the myth works and now each realm have infinite timelines and possibilities, this make sense since is stated that Vanaheim has realms and realms doesn't mean geographical regions, and the prisons of the valkyries have there one skybox even if they are underground somewho. Which helps the consistency of the statement. There also an untold distance between the realms, probably also infinite since there are separated by distance and solitude.

There also levels of reality in the realms since the revenants travels between the "sheets of reality" making her invulnerable. In this state, she can't be affect even by time based abilities like the realm shift and the magic is also important, magic is beyond human understanding and still are a fundamental part of a realm composition as stated in GoW Ragnarök.

So, this is everything we know about the realms as a structure until now. In summary, each realm is a multi reality plane of existence that have infinite timeline and is infinite in size that is contain by magic that define his state.

Many people think that the underworld is well an underworld, but that is a wrong misconception do the visual of the same. But there's myriad of proof that isn't the case.

A dev already answer to a question where he stated that the underworld and the mortal world are separated by space-time in the sci-fi sense. The art of god of war 2 stated that he is separated from any other part of the god of war universe, Valhalla also states that he is his own separated world and the novel makes clear the difference in time, the domain of death, who is located between them, something impossible if there where connected.

And about the infinity part, is stated that multiple times, he is immensurable, infinite, impossibly deep, a limitless domain and with unending pits. We even see stars and moons in many parts of the underworld making the statement of being infinite, valid. And there the "edge of hades", hades isn't the underworld, just a part of it since it has multiple regions and as we see the underworld and Tartarus are all thought to be infinite as showed by cecil kim. And there's the portal thar i will make a post only about them.

In God of war Ragnarök, we are introduce to the mask, an item that Odin found in the Silent Matron, in the Ægir ocean. I knowed the location do to a dream about the same.

The mask and the rift are stated to be connected, having the same magical energy as stated by Odin. But why is this important? The rift is the way to get to the birthplace of reality, there you discover all secrets of creation, life and death. As if you became one with a source of infinite knowledge according to Odin himself.

You can even mencion that is just a theory from odin, and not an actual true, but I think he is right. The entire game makes clear that Odin is right about what the mask do and if that happens he wins. But there's also another thing, Muspelheim, Nifheim and the mask even guide atreus to helheim (and work) which holds even more Odin since is stated by Mimir that Helheim is a primordial realm in Valhalla.

But this is very curious, because is almost the same thing as Athena in God of war 3. After God of war 2, do to his selfless act she ascended to a higher existence where she stated that isn't the same and see "truths" where she didn't see. This is very similiar to who the mask and the rift make you having absolute knowledge about all creation as well as life and death itself. And this existence isn't just a level of existence, Cory Barlog in a interview stated that she ascended to a higher realm/high plane, so it's an entire realm and not just an existence. (And to make the connection more strong, we can see that the mask, rift and higher existence Athena has the same color).

So, now that we stabilized that the mask, rift and Athena has connection. The higher realm that she is ascended is actually the actual universe of God of war, as stated by Cory, the greater and "actual" universe has yet tto be explored. This explains why they make so vague about the separation between mythologies calling it "lands" and saying that is separated by geography, they don't want people to connect that points because it would be a more explored and vital concept in the next few games.

(This also make sense since the newest game stated things like Poseidon having control over oceans and that Chaos is a formless void that gave birth to existence, which doesn't make sense since in the norse mythology, Ymir is the existence and he was born from the primordial ice and fire and not from Chaos. So the Mythologies existing in the same world is just a vague excuse for them reveal major plot point)

But what do you guys think?

Blades of Chaos: Fire

Leviathan axe: Ice

Draupnir speer: Wind

Earth/rock is the last element that the next Kratos weapon might have. What are you theory of what that weapon could be.

Hakari cursed energy trait makes his attack being more painful. But why the same doesn't happen, when he is attacked? As stated by him, his cursed energy has an edge, if a hit a serrated bat with a punch, i will be hurt by the spikes. Why that doesn't happen? What do you all think?

One of the main argument against the "scale" of the mythologies is that the characters can travel between them using convencial means like a boat, for example. But that's is simply a wrong understanding about who Kratos got to the different mythologies.

In fallen god, Kratos travels to the egyptian mythology using a boat. But that's out of context, is stated multiple times in comics that the destiny and the mortal prayers was what made possible to him reach the realm, Thoth even stated that no matter where Kratos go, he can't avoid be there because of destiny. Thoth also says that no matter direction or how fast Kratos run, he can't outrun destiny. ("Destiny is the destination which you can't avoid") and he also states that Kratos is the respond to the prayers. And if you doubt, we have multiple panels showing Kratos walking and still going to the same village. So yeah, Kratos got help to reach other mythology and not only by a normal boat.

Any other example of travel between mythologies using normal means is useless. Why? Because GoW 2018 narrative, is stated that the Unity Stone was the explanation for Týr going to other lands. If was just necessary a boat, Mimir woudn't be suprise if that was a case. So any other example of "normal travel" has a magical resource envolving in the equation. Btw, is showed Týr using a boat to travel between Mytholgies, so, the boat is the mean but the Unity stone is what it made it possible to reach other lands.

Kratos also got in the norse mythology because 3 wolfs and a woman bring him. Two of this wolfs being Sköll and Hati.