u/DefaultPain

Doesn't mean I am against his leadership. Just making sure we keep our expectations in check and don't turn on him in 2 months .

Here are the key reasons

1.neither mbappe nor vini will leave next season and now it's a fact they can't win together.

It is very hard to find a club for these "superstars", after they tanked their own credibility all year. Their contract is expensive, and we can't afford to sell them for cheap because

2.our finances are in the mud. Should be clear by now. We haven't signed players for multiple vacant positions for years now. We haven't sold many players who deserve to be sold simply because we can't afford to sell them for a loss .

"How did we buy jude, pay turtle's salary etc". These are financial investments . Superstars generate money . That is why we brought them . The stadium isn't generating revenue. All in all this means mou won't get the signings he wants to give this team the overhaul it desperately needs.

3.mou isn't the same. He is pushing 65. How much energy do you think he has to deal with the petulance that governs our club from top to bottom? I think mbappe or vini may prove too much for him .

4. The club is rotten from the academy to the medical staff, from the board to the players.

It will take 2-3 years to offload the dead weight and snuff out the rats.

Mou will start to impart the fighting spirit and team cohesion, and I think the next manager after him will lead us back to success.

Xabi sipping tea laughing his ass off, glad to be sacked to avoid this clown show.

After the dictator takes a look at the state of this team, he will surely omit his name from the starting 11 in couple of days. No way he will be part of the shitshow on sunday .
so place your bets now.
It will take perez bending down and sucking his toes, declaring him the president of real madrid to get him to step on the pitch

well done perez.
this is karma for firing xabi. sacking a proven ,generational coach after 6 months is utterly diabolical, he set precedents like this and we are reaping what he sowed.Not only that , he made a huge error accepting mbappe after he exploited us in 2022 to get a bigger package at PSG. that should have been unforgivable ,but perez bent over for him, sacrificing our values and respect to bring in a selfish saboteur.

And its not about vini or mbappe, they are freaking kids. of course they are going to burn the house down if you give them complete freedom. OF COURSE , WHICH GROWN UP IN THIS WORLD DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THIS BASIC FACT? what was he expecting to happen?
Its all on perez.

I shudder to think what will happen in this classico.
But one thing can't be ignored, no matter what happens, who comes, who leaves, its time for perez to go . RIGHT FUCKING NOW. this is worse than going trophyless, we are ruining our future prospects, no one is going to come in this team, its become skidrow, people be getting shanked in Valdebebas in few days at the rate things are going.

THANK YOU PEREZ for the financial maneuvering , but its time to retire .

you know how hard it is to go 2 years without a trophy , AT FREAKING REAL MADRID?
i don't think you guys realize the magnitude of this failure.
Of course vini wants the highest salary possible, when he just did something nearly impossible.
he misses open goals like he is the reincarnation of lord bendtner himself.
Mbappe rightfully deserves that vacation, all year he did amazingly well to play 1v10 against real madrid, sabotaging attacks and build up all by himself.

This is a level of failure unheard of, and possibly unreplicable.

this club won CLs so much it began to put difficulty modifiers like "but can we win with 2 children up top?" "can we win without signing a tempo midfielder" "can we win without proper medical care"?

and now we are doing a civil war side quest, stormcloaks vs imperials or some crap.
Also , i hate mbappe more than anyone else, if the world supports mbappe, i am not of this world, if mbappe has no haters left,that means i am dead etc.

but this sub also quickly forgave vini and are now siding with him after 1,2 good performances, discarding all the atrocious mistakes he made through the season, disrespecting the club, xabi, perez and 1v5 dribble attempts every goddamn time etc

lets be clear, if mbappe is a snake, vini is the tarantula.
yes mbappe made the team crap, but vini also refused to adjust to accommodate him, if we see 2 players waiting for the ball on the left, then both are stupid , not one.

they 100% decided to sabotage our season just to claim authority on the team.
I will enjoy watching both of them fail in WC and laugh at their stupid social media posts and tantrums after dembele /kane lift the ballon dor.

Yes, vinicius is the most spoiled player in real madrid, but giving him the no 7 shirt, pushing him for ballon dor, keeping him at the club even when he was playing bad in his early years, its clear that perez was planning to make him the next cr7, the next icon of the club, IN CASE MBAPPE DOESN'T COME . perez played both sides, promising vini the keys to the club while also saving a duplicate for mbappe. now he can't look vini in the eyes and vini doesn't respect him ,as evident by his recent shoulder barge to perez. in Vini's mind , he thinks " i f**king won CLs for this club, i scored in 2 finals, and my reward is competing for the left wing with mbappe?Why wasn't i enough? "

Now vini and mbappe both think they have the right to be real madrid's new cr7. and both play only to further their agenda, not caring about the result or the club. Vini's contract drama isn't about money, its about being the cr7 of the club, which perez most likely promised he will be . vini and mbappe still are arrogant, infantile, narcissistic pieces of crap, but for me its clear that perez is the one who sh*t the bed.

Vinicius was always a brat but i think he genuinely cared for the club before mbappe came. he is a very emotional player and immature , but no one can deny he continued to listen to carlo, kroos, benzema , modric etc, even after he scored the winner in UCL 2022 .

perez is the one who spoiled him. its hard to tie a leash on a dog, once you put a crown on its head.

The reality now is that both vini and mbappe don't give a fuck if the club continues to lose.
they first want to secure their place as the face of real madrid. that is, by itself, a more prestigious and valuable price for them than winning any trophy.

and spoiler alert, mbappe is going to win this battle eventually. you don't flirt with another girl if you truly love your current partner, and papa perez has been courting mbappe for a long time. only when vini leaves, will his majesty, mbappe the first, turn his attention to minor matters like winning trophies.

we have been glazing over the last 2 CLs on this sub, but even in those seasons people who watched remember we never won comfortably. every match was a nailbiter even in laliga.
players had to give their all until the final whistle to win . this is the cost madrid pays for never employing tactics and rehearsing strategies.

this means players are tired and get injured often. we lost indispensable players in critical points of the season, but went on to win coz fortunately other players stepped up at the right time.
for ex. if lunin had the performance he had now vs bayern during last CL we would have lost terribly to city.

we are the ones who made camavinga and militao injury prone.we played rudiger with bandages and painkillers. we hampered the development of young players like arda ,endrick becoz we were never in a comfortable position in a match to sub and develop youth.

compare that to teams that use tactics, that can dispatch low tier teams with 3-4 goals in minute 60. city, bayern, barca,psg etc . they can better protect their players and rest them . can develop substitutes and academy players. consequently they win long term, creating dynasties and defending their league title again and again, while madrid hasn't defended a league title in forever. so perhaps its time we drop the "no tactics" gimmick and change the system of this club. why have we accepted losing the league as normal? how come a club known for winning has put a ceiling on winning? barca is not strong. every year in UCL we see that. we are just under performing massively in the league. get a real coach and put these players through their paces. or we can keep playing crap football and hope for miracles in CL for next 5 years