u/Cosmical_Distruction

Hello! I was scrolling the sub for recommendations and I realized I haven't read a single novel even once, so here I am! other people in older rec discussions mentioned novels are goldmine and the yanderes are mostly the actual dark ones so let's go I guess! give me anything you know but bonus if it's supernatural, just binged Classmate and now I'm OBSESSED! also if there is a source I could read them for free, feel free to dm me. Thanks!

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u/Cosmical_Distruction — 7 days ago

Hello everyone! before I move to my arguments I need to clarify a few things:

  1. I'm not religious, but I mean no offend to any religion or religious group.
  2. I'm a fellow woman and I do not mean to offend any other women.
  3. I have nothing against Lilith as a Mythological figure, only against why some modern feminists chose her image in pop culture as an Icon for freedom and women's right.
  4. Feel free to share your thoughts and opinions, I enjoy discussions.
  5. No offend against any sex worker, But I don't respect your profession or your system.
  6. English isn't my first language so excuse me if you encountered any grammatical issues.

Okay, let me start. I see a lot of people nowadays that see Lilith as The ultimate icon of feminism to the point of calling her the first feminist, a I also heard "Be Lilith, never Eve" a lot. and this pisses me off, because everyone are missing the point of Lilith's story to the point I sometimes feel like it's intentional! Now, why? let's take another look at Lilith's story in Christian influenced pop culture, because the original Jewish mythology is totally different. She's a woman who refuses to be submissive and obedient to Adam and leave. (we're fine until here, and this is feminists' favorite part and argument.) What happens after this is the problematic, controversial part: She join hands with Lucifer, which is totally fine because both seeks revenge. but when they complete they're revenge Lucifer birth his demonic armies from Lilith's womb and now she's his lover, Queen of Hell and mother of demons, and they rule side by side. what's the problem with this, you say? Well, everything! let's take a deeper look.

First, Lucifer is a the embodiment of Pride, He's the ultimate arrogant, that means he cant fall in love with anyone but himself. he doesn't even see them in his level. This means he was not in love with Lilith. This means their relationship is completely transactional. Even if there is any love, it's one sided from Lilith's side, to Lucifer she's just a partner in crime or even with his level of arrogance, a tool.

Second, When They're not in love, then children Lilith bore for Lucifer to become his demonic armies were not out of love, they were out of a deal. So Lilith sold her body and her womb in exchange of having power and title. This might be rebellious, but it is in no way Liberating. she traded Adam for Lucifer, a master or a chain for another, and I even see the latter as more humiliating and degrading. She essentially sold her body parts for power. What difference does this have with what prostitutes who sell their bodies for money, power or position do? She's not The First Feminist, rather The First Prostitute. She objectified herself and her womb in the eyes of Lucifer just like how prostitutes objectify themselves and all the other women in the eyes of men, making them think they own them or their bodies or pictures because their paid for it. No matter how much media tries to romanticize them or their relationship, it doesn't change the nature of it.

And all of this is exactly why Lilith is the opposite of everything original feminists stood up for at first. Women's right, stopping men from using women, stop the objectification of women, but unfortunately I feel like so many of this values in today's feminism is either lost or faded, Of course they are still many women who are true to feminism's origins and movement. but the rest are cherry picking Lilith's rebellion against Adam and say she's the icon of feminism, it's like saying Hitler was a good person just because he decreased Germany's unemployment rate and throwing the whole genocide and WW2 part out the window. some women use "My body My choice" and think selling feet pictures is empowerment, but in fact it's only prostitution in a fancy, modernized package because the male gaze is still on you and those men still think they own you because they paid for you. Old prostitutes were also able to choose their client, work as prostitute or not as long as they were not sex slaves. That's the exact problem I have with the entertainment industry and OnlyFans but that's another discussion for another day. thank you for reading this post.

EDIT: Despite saying this in my original post at least two times, I have nothing to do with Jewish mythological Lilith because in that story Lucifer doesn't even exist! I have everything to do with the pop culture version in mainstream media!(Chilling adventures of Sabrina, Lucifer, etc)

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u/Cosmical_Distruction — 11 days ago

Okay! I came across the trailer for a new game "Silent Whispers" on YouTube and the thumbnail's graphic reminded me of "Love and Deepspace" so I clicked to check it out and OH MY GOD!
I know it's very early to judge since the trailer is the only thing out and the game is only on Pre-Register phase BUT! I'm getting strong yandere vibes from the white haired, Sylus-like guy! (his name is Alarik btw) like....the trailer starts with him saying "Welcome to your glided cage." and then "You came right back to me." and then later he says "You will never be free from me". Gosh, I'm so excited! If anyone else watched the trailer make sure to share your thoughts!

u/Cosmical_Distruction — 13 days ago