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The geography of the North Indian subcontinent means that every state or country within, depends on Kashmir for its water needs. Taking this into account would mean Sikhs would be placed in a precarious & vulnerable position at the mercy of Pakistan if an independent Sikh Nation was established.

This is because India & Pakistan's water needs are dependent on both parts of Kashmir.

Sikh separatists usually propose a Sikh nation situated strictly in Punjab or a wider proposal which includes Haryana, Himachal Pradesh & parts of Rajasthan. However, no Sikh separatists include the Indian or Pakistani sides of Kashmir in the proposed borders. In fact Sikh separatists do the opposite & show up to pro Kashmir separatist rallies as well as vocally advocating for Kashmir independence or reunification with Pakistan.

I find this highly suspicious. If a Sikh nation were to come about it would be under the thumb of who ever is controlling Kashmir. If Kashmir were independent or unified with Pakistan; water would be prioritized for the Islamic Theocracy of Pakistan & not the Sikh state. India could not assist in the matter as the newly created Sikh state would be a buffer zone between India & Kashmir/Pakistan and why would they?

This leads me to conclude logically that Sikh separatists are Pakistani funded agents helping to enable Pakistan take control of Kashmir's water supply.

Real Sikhs would not support such an idea as it would mean becoming a powerless oppressed group of people. Kashmir was part of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire & he controlled it because he understood the regions strategic importance for water - yet Sikh separatists wish to surrender it to Pakistan???

Now posts about such topics attract many comments from supposed Sikhs (I don't believe they are) in support of a separate nation. I'd like to say a bit about myself for context - I don't really care if no one believes me. I'm of a Sikh Jat background and I would much prefer Sikhs to support the 'Secular Socialist Democratic India' as secularism (freedom to choose a religion or no religion) is what Sikhism endorses. If India is not honoring its own constitution then it's our job as Sikhs to hold them accountable to it not attempt to create a dogmatic religious theocracy.

The geography of the North Indian subcontinent means that every state or country within, depends on Kashmir for its water needs. Taking this into account would mean Sikhs would be placed in a precarious & vulnerable position at the mercy of Pakistan if an independent Sikh Nation was established.

This is because India & Pakistan's water needs are dependent on both parts of Kashmir.

Sikh separatists usually propose a Sikh nation situated strictly in Punjab or a wider proposal which includes Haryana, Himachal Pradesh & parts of Rajasthan. However, no Sikh separatists include the Indian or Pakistani sides of Kashmir in the proposed borders. In fact Sikh separatists do the opposite & show up to pro Kashmir separatist rallies as well as vocally advocating for Kashmir independence or reunification with Pakistan.

I find this highly suspicious. If a Sikh nation were to come about it would be under the thumb of who ever is controlling Kashmir. If Kashmir were independent or unified with Pakistan; water would be prioritized for the Islamic Theocracy of Pakistan & not the Sikh state. India could not assist in the matter as the newly created Sikh state would be a buffer zone between India & Kashmir/Pakistan and why would they?

This leads me to conclude logically that Sikh separatists are Pakistani funded agents helping to enable Pakistan take control of Kashmir's water supply.

Real Sikhs would not support such an idea as it would mean becoming a powerless oppressed group of people. Kashmir was part of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire & he controlled it because he understood the regions strategic importance for water - yet Sikh separatists wish to surrender it to Pakistan???

Now posts about such topics attract many comments from supposed Sikhs (I don't believe they are) in support of a separate nation. I'd like to say a bit about myself for context - I don't really care if no one believes me. I'm of a Sikh Jat background and I would much prefer Sikhs to support the 'Secular Socialist Democratic India' as secularism (freedom to choose a religion or no religion) is what Sikhism endorses. If India is not honoring its own constitution then it's our job as Sikhs to hold them accountable to it not attempt to create a dogmatic religious theocracy.

The geography of the North Indian subcontinent means that every state or country within, depends on Kashmir for its water needs. Taking this into account would mean Sikhs would be placed in a precarious & vulnerable position at the mercy of Pakistan if an independent Sikh Nation was established.

This is because India & Pakistan's water needs are dependent on both parts of Kashmir.

Sikh separatists usually propose a Sikh nation situated strictly in Punjab or a wider proposal which includes Haryana, Himachal Pradesh & parts of Rajasthan. However, no Sikh separatists include the Indian or Pakistani sides of Kashmir in the proposed borders. In fact Sikh separatists do the opposite & show up to pro Kashmir separatist rallies as well as vocally advocating for Kashmir independence or reunification with Pakistan.

I find this highly suspicious. If a Sikh nation were to come about it would be under the thumb of who ever is controlling Kashmir. If Kashmir were independent or unified with Pakistan; water would be prioritized for the Islamic Theocracy of Pakistan & not the Sikh state. India could not assist in the matter as the newly created Sikh state would be a buffer zone between India & Kashmir/Pakistan and why would they?

This leads me to conclude logically that Sikh separatists are Pakistani funded agents helping to enable Pakistan take control of Kashmir's water supply.

Real Sikhs would not support such an idea as it would mean becoming a powerless oppressed group of people. Kashmir was part of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire & he controlled it because he understood the regions strategic importance for water - yet Sikh separatists wish to surrender it to Pakistan???

Now posts about such topics attract many comments from supposed Sikhs (I don't believe they are) in support of a separate nation. I'd like to say a bit about myself for context - I don't really care if no one believes me. I'm of a Sikh Jat background and I would much prefer Sikhs to support the 'Secular Socialist Democratic India' as secularism (freedom to choose a religion or no religion) is what Sikhism endorses. If India is not honoring its own constitution then it's our job as Sikhs to hold them accountable to it not attempt to create a dogmatic religious theocracy.