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The data clearly shows spike immunity from the virus and the vaccines did not end pandemic. The data clearly shows nucleocapside immunity from the virus ended pandemic.

Germany covid wastewater level showing spike immunity does not reduce it and nucleocapsid immunity reduce it: https://infektionsradar.rki.de/en/covid/sewage

Clinical test positivity rate going back to February 2020: https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

Wastewater level going back 2 years: https://data.wastewaterscan.org/?regionalOverview=true&selectedLocation=%7B%22label%22%3A%22National%22,%22level%22%3A%22national%22,%22value%22%3A%22national%22%7D

US general stats: https://www.cdc.gov/covid/php/surveillance/index.html

Global mortality numbers: https://data.who.int/dashboards/covid19/deaths

New York covid vaccine coverage: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data

u/CleanLock4606 — 12 hours ago

The data shows, the higher the covid vaccine usage, the weaker the nucleocapsid cellular immunity, the more covid going around, and vice versa. In the US where covid vaccine usage is highest, pandemic was prolonged by about a decade.

Spike changes a lot. Nucleocapsid don't change. That's why covid vaccine don't work, rapid antigen test work. People cannot become immune to the virus unless they have nucleocapsid cellular immunity, either through vaccines or the virus. Because none of the Pfizer, Moderna, Novavax covid vaccines which are the only available covid vaccines in the world contain nucleocapsid, nucleocapsid cellular immunity can only be obtained from the virus itself.

The data clearly shows the US which is the only country in the world where covid vaccine has widespread usage is the only country in the world where there is a lot of covid going around. In New York for example, 7.9% of the population got a covid shot this past season, which is insanely high compared to the rest of the world where covid vaccine is recommended only for very old and immunocompromised people and usage is far more limited.

Because covid vaccine delays people getting the virus, the more covid vaccine usage, the later people get the virus and obtain nucleocapsid cellular immunity, the longer it takes pandemic to end. Pandemic ended in the rest of the world after 2 or 3 years. Pandemic does not end in the US until 2030 at the earliest.

Clinical test positivity rate going back to February 2020: https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

Wastewater level going back 2 years: https://data.wastewaterscan.org/?regionalOverview=true&selectedLocation=%7B%22label%22%3A%22National%22,%22level%22%3A%22national%22,%22value%22%3A%22national%22%7D

US general stats: https://www.cdc.gov/covid/php/surveillance/index.html

Global mortality numbers: https://data.who.int/dashboards/covid19/deaths

New York covid vaccine coverage: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data

u/CleanLock4606 — 13 hours ago

Hantavirus vaccine? Probably not worth it.

Hantavirus is incredibly rare. There's only a few hundred cases a year. On top of that, Hantavirus is incredibly diverse, with 37 species already documented. To make a vaccine, it would have to be 37 valent which would be incredibly expensive. The cost doe not justify the benefit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthohantavirus

u/CleanLock4606 — 1 day ago

Is Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine one of those permanently forever vaccines like polio vaccine?

Even if Betacoronavirus pandemicum goes extinct, considering how transmissible it is in an immunologically naive population, 90% of the population would have to get a Betacoronavirus pandemicum shot each year to keep up population immunity in case it reappears like what Betacoronavirus pandemicum did in 2019 after going extinct in 2003.

Even if polio is extinct, a closely related virus in the same species like coxsackievirus A21 might mutate into polio and attach to the same receptor. Considering genus Enterovirus has hundreds of strains, people will have to take polio vaccine forever unless genus Enterovirus goes extinct. Any of the common cold rhinoviruses can easily mutate into polio and poof it comes back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterovirus

u/CleanLock4606 — 2 days ago

To save children's lives, shouldn't Alphainfluenzavirus influenzae + Betainfluenzavirus influenzae combo vaccine, Orthopneumovirus hominis vaccine, Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine be required for school children?

According to respiratory virus report, in New York state, this past respiratory virus season, 16 children died of Alphainfluenzavirus influenzae + Betainfluenzavirus influenzae, 6 children died of Orthopneumovirus hominis, 3 children died of Betacoronavirus pandemicum.

Source: https://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/communicable/respiratory_viruses/activity/2025-2026/docs/current_respiratory_report.pdf

Considering vaccines for these respiratory viruses are available to the general population, shouldn't these vaccines be required for school children to save lives?

The number of children who die from measles, mumps, polio, pertussis pales in comparison and these vaccines are required for school children since decades ago. If they want to save children's lives, at least be consistent.

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u/CleanLock4606 — 3 days ago

How would it impact your life if one day there's no more Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine in the US?

Personally, it wouldn't a big deal for me. I only had two Pfizer shots which was mandated in Ontario in 2021 so I can access my workplace.

There's hardly any Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine left outside the US. AstraZeneca ended production. BioNTech is ending production by early next year. There's barely any Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine in the Global South such as Latin America, Southeast Asia, South Asia, East Asia, Africa, Central Asia, Middle East. There's a bit more Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine in Canada, Europe, Australia, New Zealand but only for high risk people like really old people.

These days there's hardly any kids getting Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine. Even in New York where Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine is the most popular, only 2.1% of 0 to 4 year olds get it compared to 40.1% getting a flu shot.

https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-demographics

u/CleanLock4606 — 3 days ago

Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine, the first common cold virus vaccine ever?

I define a common cold virus as "a respiratory virus whose clinical samples test positivity rate is under 5% in every week of the year". This is true for Betacoronavirus hongkongense and Betacoronavirus gravedinis which are the closest related viruses to Betacoronavirus pandemicum in human populations.

Why 5%? This number is the threshold used by Canada to declare onset and offset of annual flu season epidemics. < 5% = no flu season. > 5% = flu season.

Figure 3 of https://health-infobase.canada.ca/respiratory-virus-surveillance/influenza.html

"New federal data out Friday (new window) shows roughly two per cent of country-wide tests came back positive for influenza in the previous week. That’s still shy of the five per cent bar for Canada to declare a seasonal flu epidemic, but it’s a noticeable uptick from a few weeks before."

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2206627/canada-could-face-worst-kind-of-flu-season-as-experts-warn-evolving-strain-may-be-mismatch-for-vaccine

Under 5% is also the lowest category used by HHS to categorize Betacoronavirus pandemicum activity.

Click the third tab from the left under the dashboard at https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

As Betacoronavirus pandemicum becomes less and less novel, clinical sample test positivity rate drops year after year. It peaked at barely over 5% this winter and has dropped to less than 1% for the first time. It'll continue to drop in the coming years and about 10 years from now it'll never reach 5% in any given year.

https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

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u/CleanLock4606 — 5 days ago

People probably did not need Betacoronavirus pandemicum vaccine, at least not for the vast majority of folks.

So I've seen the research done by this guy who worked out the early infection fatality of Betacoronavirus pandemicum to be 0.1%, on par with seasonal flu. Of course, this number dropped as people gained immunity and the virus is no longer novel.

https://covidmythbuster.substack.com/p/how-one-graph-proved-sars-cov-2-was

The number he worked out is pretty close to what the British statistics agency worked out from mass testing of the general population with their expensive ONS infection survey.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/estimating-the-infection-fatality-ratio-in-england/

u/CleanLock4606 — 7 days ago

In Germany they are closing 3 factories and another one in Singapore which supplies the Asia Pacific market. Outside the US, because there is universal healthcare, everything has to be within budget rather than like in the US where every person 6 months and older get a covid shot every year. These days covid is not mentioned in the media a single time in any given year, so people don't see a need to get a shot. 30 years from now when people perceive Betacoronavirus pandemicum as a generic common cold virus amongst many common cold viruses, covid vaccine goes extinct.

"The vaccine maker will exit several plants, aim for €500 million in yearly savings, and buy back up to $1 billion in stock as it refocuses beyond covid."

https://finimize.com/content/biontech-shifts-covid-shot-production-and-plans-big-cuts

u/CleanLock4606 — 9 days ago

In the most recent season, BC recommends a shot for the most at risk people, in particular old people. BC procured enough shots for about 25% of the population.

B.C. has secured 1.94 million doses of the 2025-26 influenza vaccine and 1.4 million doses of the updated COVID-19 vaccines, Moderna Spikevax LP.8.1 and Pfizer Comirnaty, which are approved by Health Canada. This year’s vaccine supply is based on uptake in previous seasons to ensure efficient use and to minimize waste.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2025HLTH0096-001045

u/CleanLock4606 — 9 days ago

The first trial was conducted September 11 to November 15, 2023. Out of the 338 unvaccinated participants, 5 tested positive with PCR at baseline. Omi was found in the noses of 5 / 338 = 1.47% of unvaccinated participants.

Out of the 332 regularly boosted vaccinated participants, 5 tested positive with PCR at baseline. Omi was found in the noses of 5 / 332 = 1.50% of regularly boosted vaccinated participants.

"The per-protocol analysis set included 306/338 (90.5%) participants; reasons for exclusion were negative baseline anti-N (23/338; 6.8%), positive baseline PCR (5/338; 1.5%), and protocol violation (5/338; 1.5%; one patient had a protocol violation and positive PCR result)."

As shown in the flow chart in Fig. 1 of the trial report https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X25003433?via%3Dihub

The second trial was conducted October 14, 2024, and October 15, 2024. Out of the 60 regularly boosted vaccinated participants, 1 tested positive with PCR at baseline. Omi was found in the noses of 1 / 60 = 1.67% of regularly boosted vaccinated participants.

"The PP Analysis Set at the Day 28 visit comprised 58 (96.7 %) participants, with one participant excluded due to a positive PCR result at baseline and one excluded due to a COVID-19 infection prior to the Day 28 visit."

As shown in the flow chart in Fig. 1 of the trial report https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X25014628?via%3Dihub

These Omi detection rates were similar to the 1.9% Omi detection rate found with a random sample of New Yorkers in February 2022 by knocking on their doors and swabbing their noses and testing for Omi with PCR.

"In the City of Ithaca in February 2022, only two out of 105 samples were positive on SARS-CoV-2 PCR testing (test positivity of 1.9%). "

Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12118914/

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u/CleanLock4606 — 10 days ago

It's the black line on the dashboard.

https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

Now that they finally got RSV (Orthnopneumovirus hominis) vaccine on the market, the next step is of course HMPV vaccine. HMPV was isolated in 2001 but it is not known when it emerged. It may have been one of the numerous plagues recorded in the middle ages but might be pre middle ages.

HMPV is also among the most nasty respiratory viruses, much more so than RSV.

"Among the viruses considered, influenza and HMPV were associated with significantly higher symptom scores than RSV, HRV, CoV, adenovirus and PIV. As shown in Figure 1, more than 50% of influenza and HMPV infections were classified as symptomatic by a majority of definitions, whereas the other viruses were mostly asymptomatic according to all definitions (P < 0.01 and P < 0.001 when comparing, respectively, the ratio of symptomatic influenza and HMPV infections to the other viral infections)."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6518513/

Personally, I think it's a good idea but because for every respiratory virus they have vaccine for, they have to add it to the dashboard and track it, it'll then become flu, covid, RSV, HMPV instead of only flu, covid, RSV like it is today.

Inside the hMPV surge: Why vaccine development is accelerating

https://www.news-medical.net/whitepaper/20260109/Inside-the-hMPV-surge-Why-vaccine-development-is-accelerating.aspx

u/CleanLock4606 — 10 days ago

Because Texans don't get covid shots as much as New Yorkers, they get covid at a younger age compared to New Yorkers who get covid at an older age. Texans get covid for the first time at an average age of 10 years old. New Yorkers get covid for the first time at an average age of 30 years old. When Texans get covid, it's mild because viral load is low. When New Yorkers get covid, it's bad because viral load is high.

Texas ED, covid compared to flu and RSV is tiny: https://texas-respiratory-illness-dashboard-txdshsea.hub.arcgis.com/pages/texas-statewide-emergency-department-visits-for-respiratory-illnesses

New York cases, covid compared to flu and RSV is huge: https://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/communicable/respiratory_viruses/activity/2025-2026/docs/current_respiratory_report.pdf

Younger people have less immunity to endemic viruses so they get more protection from them. Older people have more immunity to endemic viruses so they get less protection from them.

"Participants infected with rhinovirus in the previous 30 days were at a 48% lower risk for COVID-19 (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.52). Among COVID-infected participants, recent rhinovirus infection was tied to a 9.6-fold lower SARS-CoV-2 viral load, or amount of virus in the body, an indicator of infection severity. "

"The common cold may help protect against COVID-19, which may partially explain why children, who are especially vulnerable to most viral respiratory infections, generally have milder SARS-CoV-2 infections than adults"

Source: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/recent-common-cold-may-nearly-halve-risk-covid-19-study-suggests

This theory is correct. Data prove covid goes down as other viruses go up. This proves other viruses protect people from covid. That's why getting covid young is mild, getting covid old is bad.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

u/CleanLock4606 — 10 days ago

Because the vaccine does not prevent infection, only reduces the probability you get it when you get exposed, sooner or later you get the virus. The older you get it the first time, the worse it is. The younger you get it the first time, the milder it is.

Younger people have less immunity to endemic viruses so they get more protection from them. Older people have more immunity to endemic viruses so they get less protection from them.

That's why places like Texas which have fewer covid vaccines have less covid than places like New York which have more covid vaccines, because Texans catch covid at a younger age which makes it mild, whereas New Yorkers catch covid at an older age which makes it worse.

"Participants infected with rhinovirus in the previous 30 days were at a 48% lower risk for COVID-19 (adjusted hazard ratio, 0.52). Among COVID-infected participants, recent rhinovirus infection was tied to a 9.6-fold lower SARS-CoV-2 viral load, or amount of virus in the body, an indicator of infection severity. "

Source: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/recent-common-cold-may-nearly-halve-risk-covid-19-study-suggests

You can clearly see in the chart covid goes down a lot when other viruses go up.

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

Texas ED: https://texas-respiratory-illness-dashboard-txdshsea.hub.arcgis.com/pages/texas-statewide-emergency-department-visits-for-respiratory-illnesses

Texas deaths: https://texas-respiratory-illness-dashboard-txdshsea.hub.arcgis.com/pages/viral-respiratory-deaths

New York: https://www.health.ny.gov/diseases/communicable/respiratory_viruses/activity/2025-2026/docs/current_respiratory_report.pdf

u/CleanLock4606 — 11 days ago

Back in the day there were some vaccines but not many. Only the basic ones like MMR, TdAP. There were hardly any flu shots. Only 10% of Americans got the flu shot a year. No hospital back in the day required staff to get the flu shot like they do today. At that time the US was looked up upon as the beacon of freedom and reason. Look how healthy Americans were back then. Today only Amish is as healthy as Americans of the 70s and 80s.

1977:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ734NWnAHA

1978:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw39LmnRJU

1984:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hDkhw5Wkas

1986 when vaccine law was passed and it all went downhill from there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_z57UatDY

u/CleanLock4606 — 11 days ago