u/Chuckles_McNut

I swear at best it's a 50/50 coin flip every time whether I get someone who can insert the needle with virtually no pain and no issues or someone who just jabs me like they're playing pin the tail on the donkey and then I end up with my arm looking like this...

is it bad training? lack of experience? laziness? their mood that day? I really want to know

 https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2015/antioxidants-metastasis

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4094884/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24241129/

This article kind of had me freaked out-it suggests at the end the people with cancer or cancer risk should not be taking antioxidant supplements.
I’m 48 and have had 5 basal cell skin cancers show up in the last 4 years…

I’ve also been taking 800mg Quercetin (w/bromelain) a day for 3 years, with breaks, and I consume a tablespoon of olive oil and 2 cups of decaf coffee a day… but the information on how to even quantify what would be a problematic dose of antioxidants isn’t just scant, it’s nonexistent. Nevertheless I tried to do the deepest dive I could on this and I’m curious what anyone else knows.

It occurred to me that that article is 11 years old and considering how popular and available supplements are, I find it hard to believe that if this was a real concern we wouldn’t have more science on it by now and possibly even warnings on the packaging

Quercetin itself as many know, has been shown in over two dozen studies (mostly in vivo) to have cancer protective and cancer eradicating properties.

However Quercetin also has a very poor bioavailability, and considering I also have SIBO, it’s very likely that a relatively small percentage of the dose I’m taking is even reaching my bloodstream.

Which just brings us back to the initial conundrum: no one seems to know or has ever studied what a dangerous level of antioxidants would be and how that level would be measured

It’s also worth noting- I realize antioxidant is a broad term and not all polyphenols are the same and this shit can get pretty complicated