u/ChakraaThePanda

• [[Vren, the Relentless,]]

Cards like [[Blood Artist]], [[Morbid Opportunist]] and other payoffs when any creature dies, since Vren exiles opponents cards, are they still worth running if they only affect your own creatures?

I like the idea of Vren as I can run a strong removal package and get tokens out of it that gets bigger and bigger.

But instead of filling the deck with Rats, which looks also like a decent approach, I feel like I would like to have life drain or draw effects when my stuff dies so I can sac/block with my rats and get value out of those effects.

The rat tokens themselves seem to become big enough on their own?

I was recently trying to see if I could convert my Orzhov deck into a token deck. Thing is, most decent Orzhov decks that create tokens have like a million of different tokens in it, between Vampires, Inklings, Soldiers, Spirits and all that other stuff, since Orzhov mainly wants token generations to drain life / sac them instead of caring about what type of token they are.

Something that can potentially be played high B2-low B3 🙂

Those that I know of:

* Whitemane

* ChromeCraft

I've been playing on Whitemane but the population is rather low and I would rather play somewhere where the world is a tad more active.

How's ChromieCraft's hardcore pop?

Anywhere else?

Thanks!