u/Careless-Speed2455

I’ve seen a lot of people wondering why he would choose an inflatable pool to commit the dismemberment because he used a chainsaw, but here’s why I think it made sense in his mind.

First, I believe people might be confusing the inflatable pool with a small kiddie pool, but some inflatable pools are actually fairly large.

So, let’s try to put ourselves in his situation at the time. He’s 5’5” and 125 lbs. Reasonably fit, but small in stature. Celeste was 5’2”, weight unknown, but she was 71 pounds when her body was discovered. Given the state of decompression she was in, I’d assume she weighed significantly more when she was alive and at the time of her dismemberment.

Also keep in mind that she had allegedly been deceased for about two weeks before he committed the dismemberment. By this time, the rigor mortis stage has dissipated and the body has become flexible again. Depending on the exact date of the dismemberment and the conditions her body were stored in, she would have been either at the end of the bloating stage, entering the active decay stage or fully into active decay.

Even for a strong person who’s 5’5” and 125 lbs, it would still be reasonably difficult to move a deceased person around that’s only slightly smaller than they are. Even just getting a good grip on a deceased person who’s completely limp and decomposing is going to be challenging.

So why the inflatable pool? Well, I think it made sense in his mind for two reasons.

  1. Obviously, he wanted to contain the blood, tissue and bone fragments that would result from the chainsaw dismemberment. If it was a large enough inflatable pool, it may have been big enough to catch most of the tissue, blood and bone fragments that resulted from the chainsaw dismemberment.

As long as he didn’t angle the bar of the chainsaw down more than say 45 degrees as he cut, he likely would have been able to contain most of that overspray of blood, tissue and bone fragments, reducing the mess as much as possible in his mind.

  1. Given how difficult it would have been for him to move her body around, I believe the inflatable pool helped solve that problem as well. Rather than having to pick her up off of the ground and lift her above a ledge to get her into a plastic kiddies pool, it would have been easier for him to spread the pool out on the floor, drag the body of Celeste into the center, then inflate the pool once she’s already in the center. At that point, he could start the dismemberment process, believing he was containing the mess. Or trying as best he could, at least.

Once the dismemberment was complete, he could put the dismembered parts of Celeste’s body in the cadaver and trash bags, soak up the blood and fluids with towels, blankets, old clothes or something else, clean up any excess tissue or large bone fragments to the best of his ability, deflate the pool, roll it up and dispose of it the best he could.

Of course, the authorities would still find traces of DNA even after a good cleanup in this situation, but for a person who is likely panicked, in a rush and just needs to figure out something to with a body as quickly as they could, I think it probably made sense in his mind.

In addition to that, the authorities would also find fragments of blue plastic in the cut wounds of Celeste, likely from the teeth of the chainsaw hitting the bottom of the inflatable pool as he was cutting through Celeste’s body.

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u/Careless-Speed2455 — 9 days ago

…there’s a chance that people from D4VD’s camp who were engaged in threats, coercion and/or intimidation tactics to silence Celeste’s family?

I haven’t seen any allegations of that, but the new information that has come to light in court and Celeste’s families silence has me wondering if that might be a possibility. Perhaps they leveraged their immigration status against them or made actual threats of violence against them and that’s why they don’t want to talk to the press.

I’ve been very critical of Celeste’s family from the start and I still think they have a lot of explaining to do, but I will say this. We’ve seen a lot of allegations of Celeste’s friends and family taking money to stay quiet about the abuse, but so far we haven’t seen any official allegations of her parents accepting any cash or gifts to D4VD.

I obviously think they could have done a lot more to protect Celeste. However, I can’t say they didn’t try, based on the information we have now. They did file several missing persons reports, they took her phone and I’ve heard that her mom even slept near her to keep her from sneaking out.

All the while, the police are aware of the situation and nothing is being done to protect Celeste from D4VD.

D4VD’s parents clearly seem to have been supportive of D4VD’s SA of Celeste, but I’m not seeing anything that suggests Celeste’s parents were supportive of the situation.

So I wonder, have D4VD and Celeste’s parents ever met? I’ve seen no evidence of that, but you would think D4VD’s parents would want to meet the parents of the 13 year old little girl that their son is sexually abusing and telling he’s going to marry.

It’ll be interesting to see if the parents were ever in communication and what the situation was between them, because I’m really starting to think that maybe D4VD’s family is implicated deeper into this situation than we currently know.

Keep in mind that his parents were also in town when the murder of Celeste allegedly occurred, so there’s no telling what they might know (no pun intended) or might be hiding.

I mean, as deeply as they’re seemingly implicated in this case, they had a motive to keep Celeste silent and cover up the murder too.

I highly doubt they helped with the murder or dismemberment in anyway, but I would not be surprised if they helped him cover it up after the fact once it happened. Even if not directly.

Let me know how you all are feeling about it, but D4VD’s parents look a lot more guilty than Celeste’s parents to me RIGHT NOW. However, that could always change as more information becomes available.

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u/Careless-Speed2455 — 13 days ago
▲ 152 r/d4vd2

There is only child sex abuse material. Porn is between consenting adults. Children cannot consent to sex and porn. Any depiction of a child engaged in sexual acts is abuse.

The term “child porn” makes it sound like there’s something sexy about it. We need to retire that outdated term.

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u/Careless-Speed2455 — 16 days ago