u/Aquwle

I tried posting earlier on another Malay/Muslim Reddit, but I was blocked and deleted

First of all, I just want help, that's all, We just want to live our lives in peace, I'm not against your'all religion, I would be grateful if you'all could help me understand more about Sharia law and Malaysia,

I (a foreigner) and my future wife (a Malaysian woman) have a plan for her to leave Malaysia and Islam. Does this realistically have a chance of working?

Hello everyone. I apologize if this is not the most appropriate subreddit for this topic if there is a better place to ask, I would genuinely appreciate suggestions. I’m specifically hoping to hear from Muslims, Malaysians, or anyone familiar with Malaysia’s Sharia/legal system.

I am in a relationship with a Malaysian woman, and we both want to build a life together. However, she deeply wishes to leave Islam and eventually renounce her Malaysian citizenship as well. Our plan is for her to move to my country (a country with full religious freedom and where losing Malaysian citizenship would not create legal issues on our side).

I have researched this extensively, but I know that the practical reality can be very different from what is written online. That’s why I’m asking here: has anyone gone through something similar, or does anyone familiar with Malaysian Sharia law know whether this plan has a realistic chance of succeeding safely?

Our current plan is this:

I am not religious, but I would formally convert to Islam in order to legally marry her in Malaysia. After the marriage is officially recognized, we would move to my home country together. Once there, we would apply for her residency through marriage, and eventually she would obtain citizenship in my country.

She understands that acquiring citizenship would automatically result in losing Malaysian citizenship, and that is exactly what she wants. After she is legally settled here and protected as a citizen, she would stop practicing Islam entirely. I would also no longer follow the religion and would simply return to my normal life. We would both live under the laws of my country, which guarantees full freedom of religion.

Our biggest fears and questions are:

1. Can her conversion/status as a Muslim ever truly be “removed” legally in Malaysia?

We understand that apostasy is treated extremely seriously and that officially leaving Islam inside Malaysia is nearly impossible. But from the Malaysian government’s perspective, if she acquires another citizenship and never returns to Malaysia, does that effectively end the matter? Or would she remain permanently at risk if she ever had to return for a serious family emergency in the future?

2. My own legal safety as a foreigner.

As a non-Malaysian, would I face any legal risk if Malaysian authorities somehow learned that I later stopped practicing Islam after leaving the country? If I visited Malaysia years later as a tourist, could I be denied entry or face legal consequences for abandoning the religion outside Malaysia?

Does this plan sound realistic, or are we overlooking something important? Is there a safer or smarter path that we are not seeing?

I sincerely appreciate anyone willing to share personal experiences, legal knowledge, or even words of caution. This is an enormous and very serious step for both of us, and we want to approach it as carefully and safely as possible.

Thank you very much.

I (a foreigner) and my future wife (a Malaysian woman) have a plan for her to leave Malaysia and Islam. Does this realistically have a chance of working?

Hello everyone. I apologize if this is not the most appropriate subreddit for this topic if there is a better place to ask, I would genuinely appreciate suggestions. I’m specifically hoping to hear from ex-Muslims, Malaysians, or anyone familiar with Malaysia’s Sharia/legal system.

I am in a relationship with a Malaysian woman, and we both want to build a life together. However, she deeply wishes to leave Islam and eventually renounce her Malaysian citizenship as well. Our plan is for her to move to my country (a country with full religious freedom and where losing Malaysian citizenship would not create legal issues on our side).

I have researched this extensively, but I know that the practical reality can be very different from what is written online. That’s why I’m asking here: has anyone gone through something similar, or does anyone familiar with Malaysian Sharia law know whether this plan has a realistic chance of succeeding safely?

Our current plan is this:

I am not religious, but I would formally convert to Islam in order to legally marry her in Malaysia. After the marriage is officially recognized, we would move to my home country together. Once there, we would apply for her residency through marriage, and eventually she would obtain citizenship in my country.

She understands that acquiring citizenship would automatically result in losing Malaysian citizenship, and that is exactly what she wants. After she is legally settled here and protected as a citizen, she would stop practicing Islam entirely. I would also no longer follow the religion and would simply return to my normal life. We would both live under the laws of my country, which guarantees full freedom of religion.

Our biggest fears and questions are:

1. Can her conversion/status as a Muslim ever truly be “removed” legally in Malaysia?

We understand that apostasy is treated extremely seriously and that officially leaving Islam inside Malaysia is nearly impossible. But from the Malaysian government’s perspective, if she acquires another citizenship and never returns to Malaysia, does that effectively end the matter? Or would she remain permanently at risk if she ever had to return for a serious family emergency in the future?

2. My own legal safety as a foreigner.

As a non-Malaysian, would I face any legal risk if Malaysian authorities somehow learned that I later stopped practicing Islam after leaving the country? If I visited Malaysia years later as a tourist, could I be denied entry or face legal consequences for abandoning the religion outside Malaysia?

Does this plan sound realistic, or are we overlooking something important? Is there a safer or smarter path that we are not seeing?

I sincerely appreciate anyone willing to share personal experiences, legal knowledge, or even words of caution. This is an enormous and very serious step for both of us, and we want to approach it as carefully and safely as possible.

Actually, after reading some things here, would getting married in Malaysia cause us more problems in the future? Is it better for us to get married abroad?

Thank you very much.

I (a foreigner) and my future wife (a Malaysian woman) have a plan for her to leave Malaysia and Islam. Does this realistically have a chance of working?

Hello everyone. I apologize if this is not the most appropriate subreddit for this topic if there is a better place to ask, I would genuinely appreciate suggestions. I’m specifically hoping to hear from ex-Muslims, Malaysians, or anyone familiar with Malaysia’s Sharia/legal system.

I am in a relationship with a Malaysian woman, and we both want to build a life together. However, she deeply wishes to leave Islam and eventually renounce her Malaysian citizenship as well. Our plan is for her to move to my country (a country with full religious freedom and where losing Malaysian citizenship would not create legal issues on our side).

I have researched this extensively, but I know that the practical reality can be very different from what is written online. That’s why I’m asking here: has anyone gone through something similar, or does anyone familiar with Malaysian Sharia law know whether this plan has a realistic chance of succeeding safely?

Our current plan is this:

I am not religious, but I would formally convert to Islam in order to legally marry her in Malaysia. After the marriage is officially recognized, we would move to my home country together. Once there, we would apply for her residency through marriage, and eventually she would obtain citizenship in my country.

She understands that acquiring citizenship would automatically result in losing Malaysian citizenship, and that is exactly what she wants. After she is legally settled here and protected as a citizen, she would stop practicing Islam entirely. I would also no longer follow the religion and would simply return to my normal life. We would both live under the laws of my country, which guarantees full freedom of religion.

Our biggest fears and questions are:

1. Can her conversion/status as a Muslim ever truly be “removed” legally in Malaysia?

We understand that apostasy is treated extremely seriously and that officially leaving Islam inside Malaysia is nearly impossible. But from the Malaysian government’s perspective, if she acquires another citizenship and never returns to Malaysia, does that effectively end the matter? Or would she remain permanently at risk if she ever had to return for a serious family emergency in the future?

2. My own legal safety as a foreigner.

As a non-Malaysian, would I face any legal risk if Malaysian authorities somehow learned that I later stopped practicing Islam after leaving the country? If I visited Malaysia years later as a tourist, could I be denied entry or face legal consequences for abandoning the religion outside Malaysia?

Does this plan sound realistic, or are we overlooking something important? Is there a safer or smarter path that we are not seeing?

I sincerely appreciate anyone willing to share personal experiences, legal knowledge, or even words of caution. This is an enormous and very serious step for both of us, and we want to approach it as carefully and safely as possible.

Thank you very much.

I (a foreigner) and my future wife (a Malaysian woman) have a plan for her to leave Malaysia and Islam. Does this realistically have a chance of working?

Hello everyone. I apologize if this is not the most appropriate subreddit for this topic if there is a better place to ask, I would genuinely appreciate suggestions. I’m specifically hoping to hear from ex-Muslims, Malaysians, or anyone familiar with Malaysia’s Sharia/legal system.

I am in a relationship with a Malaysian woman, and we both want to build a life together. However, she deeply wishes to leave Islam and eventually renounce her Malaysian citizenship as well. Our plan is for her to move to my country (a country with full religious freedom and where losing Malaysian citizenship would not create legal issues on our side).

I have researched this extensively, but I know that the practical reality can be very different from what is written online. That’s why I’m asking here: has anyone gone through something similar, or does anyone familiar with Malaysian Sharia law know whether this plan has a realistic chance of succeeding safely?

Our current plan is this:

I am not religious, but I would formally convert to Islam in order to legally marry her in Malaysia. After the marriage is officially recognized, we would move to my home country together. Once there, we would apply for her residency through marriage, and eventually she would obtain citizenship in my country.

She understands that acquiring citizenship would automatically result in losing Malaysian citizenship, and that is exactly what she wants. After she is legally settled here and protected as a citizen, she would stop practicing Islam entirely. I would also no longer follow the religion and would simply return to my normal life. We would both live under the laws of my country, which guarantees full freedom of religion.

Our biggest fears and questions are:

1. Can her conversion/status as a Muslim ever truly be “removed” legally in Malaysia?

We understand that apostasy is treated extremely seriously and that officially leaving Islam inside Malaysia is nearly impossible. But from the Malaysian government’s perspective, if she acquires another citizenship and never returns to Malaysia, does that effectively end the matter? Or would she remain permanently at risk if she ever had to return for a serious family emergency in the future?

2. My own legal safety as a foreigner.

As a non-Malaysian, would I face any legal risk if Malaysian authorities somehow learned that I later stopped practicing Islam after leaving the country? If I visited Malaysia years later as a tourist, could I be denied entry or face legal consequences for abandoning the religion outside Malaysia?

Does this plan sound realistic, or are we overlooking something important? Is there a safer or smarter path that we are not seeing?

I sincerely appreciate anyone willing to share personal experiences, legal knowledge, or even words of caution. This is an enormous and very serious step for both of us, and we want to approach it as carefully and safely as possible.

Thank you very much.