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Surah & Verse Order of The Quran

Was the Surah and Verse order of the Quran determined by the prophet Muhammad or the companions according to HCM?

I‘ve heard that the verse order is considered to be determined by the prophet both by islamic scholars and by a large sum of historical scholars (correction regarding this statement would be appreciate).

The topic of the surah order seems more nuanced though as I heard the claim that the current Surah order differs from the order in the sana‘a manuscript (primairly the lower text, again, correction regarding this statement would be appreciated as I’m just presenting my current understanding of both sides) and that according to hadith reports, which I‘m not sure can be taken as historical, different companions had different codixes which included different surah orders and that thus the surah order was fluid at first and became standardised later on. Some people say the codixes of the companions with the different surah orders were personal codixes and did not reflect any official surah order and were rather like personal notes and that the current surah order was proclaimed and set by prophet Muhammad orally and Uthman just brought it to paper. Is there any evidence to this claim or for either side? Is there any way to prove or disprove that Muhammad proclaimed the current order of the 114 Surahs and that they were fluid at the time of revelation and were later standardized? Because even if there are differences in manuscripts, I‘m not sure if they disprove the claim that those weren‘t just personal variations and that a canonical Surah order wasn‘t proclaimed and set during Muhammad‘s time of proclamation.

Thank you for taking your time to read this, I‘m excited for an answer. (And apologies for the poor writing)

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u/Any-Tart-8412 — 21 hours ago