u/Androgyne69

Engaging in good faith with carnists

I was wondering if anyone here had any thoughts on this. I rarely actually debate with carnists anymore - I’ve been vegan for 11 years now and I find it generally depressing to do so.

However there has been a great moral panic amongst the left/liberals about generative AI (I don’t like AI either, but that’s neither here nor there).

I contributed to the discussion by merely pointing out that animal agriculture is in fact worse than AI.

Had someone comment that nut milk was as bad for the Earth as AI. I asked for a source, they mocked me and implied it was common knowledge.

I responded with all the typical stuff about plant milk vs cows milk, the person said they didn’t know what I thought I had proved by sharing that info.

I asked for a source for their original claim again, to which they just laughed reacted lmao.

What animates this level of bad faith-ness? Are people really this detached from thinking? How can people look facts and data straight in the face and say “no that’s not for me, thank you.”

Genuinely feeling pretty alone in this crappy world all over again. And none of this is new to me.

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u/Androgyne69 — 1 day ago