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After we explored further we found that in websites that require you to pay to continue reading, there are also extremely intelligent characters in methodology.

There was one equivalent to ch700 Chen Ran by estimation. We don't know how many more scd goldmines are hiding behind paywalls...

But, I will explore it more once I am in my Mid 20s or something, which at some point I should have plenty of money or else I would be dissapointed in myself.

You know what this means?

We are still at the tip of the iceberg.

I was told this guy spams outerversal level stuff around the story.

Apparently this guy is above EOS Lu Yang in ontology scaling. For context, in batics each great realm basically transcends the former and is literally an entirely higher dimension, the quality of thoughts between realms is narratively much higher-ups. There are complex concepts like fate, karma, and etc that affect the ontology of this verse.

And at the end of the series Lu Yang basically is the highest before transcendence(implied he would transcend the entirety of the verse later)

Wang Wei is way way above Batics in ontology apparently but in methodology scaling he is only High Tier.

People be making alts to throw hands.

Li Qing(The Terrible Eternal Path) Ang Xiao(Batics)

Li Qing wins👍

Li Qing's hairline is not a part of Ang Xiao's contingencies.

I swear people read up to like chapter 75 and glaze him all around like that puts him way above Akiyama 🥀

Chen Ran received all the praises from my group during the Sinful Hospital arc which ends at like ch260 and even that part gets low diffed by the current Chen Ran.

I also gotta say that I feel like people are overrating early parts of the story, Self Killing plan isn't even that crazy bro💔

People glaze him for the wrong reasons I'm crying😭

There's also this trend where people only read up to certain parts and assume that "yeh this is the highest it can go", probably should put the chapter you are using when giving takes or opinions

The people who say he is only good at puzzle solving scenarios are probably people who haven't caught up, but I guess...

If he was only good at puzzle solving scenarios he wouldn't have reasoned Diwu Zhiyi's plan in Sinful Hospital.

If he was only good at puzzle solving scenarios he wouldn't have used Lin Xuan and Qiu Yinong properly to kill Shu Renjun with that complex Fang Yuan level strategy he did at third chamber of Hua Changsheng Instance.

If he was only good at puzzle solving scenarios he wouldn't have been able to kill Ying Siliang and others.

If he was only good at puzzle solving scenarios he wouldn't have defended himself during Ego loss tribulation.

He wouldn't reason out the arrangements of the true self players during Chen Ran's tomb arc.

He also isn't only good at fixed situations, I still have him above Fang Yuan in non fixed situations although he loses to other top tiers in my list.

I love gatekeeping from people, gatekeeping is fun but it's only fun if Im the one who is gatekeeping.

I was against it before, like why gatekeep 100+ Ang Xiao victimizers? but now I understand...

My ancestors before dying once told me "Remember the essence of gatekeeping i-" they left before finishing the sentence, only now did I understand...

That is- the essence of gatekeeping is t-

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Tianyi(Sinmonger) versus Chen Ran(18loh)

-Intelligence: Chen Ran

-Social: Chen Ran

-Mentality: Chen Ran

-Thinking+Reasoning: Chen Ran

-Schemes: Tianyi>=

-Manipulation: Tianyi

-Deception: Chen Ran

-Foresight: Tianyi>=

-Theory of Mind: Tianyi

-Game Theory: Chen Ran

-Tactical Prowess: Chen Ran

-Adaptability: Chen Ran

-Counteractions: Chen Ran

-Judgement: Chen Ran

-Resistance: Chen Ran

Winner: Devil Advisor ??? difficulty

Strange...

We all know that he had a lot of jade beauties that he collected all around the world. He actually often observed the netherworld of these jade beauties and saw their monthly blood tribulation many times. He probably even tasted it in order to gain better comprehension and much higher attainment.

With this he now has the sufficient inspiration to create the blood path.

He is from Sinmonger.

For anyone who remembers this was a top 1 candidate from our list that got debunked hence Niu Youdao was top 1 in logical scaling for a long time until Pun Yunchuan dethroned him.

The claim of Tianyi defeating Niu Youdao isn't really that absurd. He is really extremely intelligent in a terrifying way.

I'm kinda confused on how to scale him. It's difficult to explain but in short he is similar to Murphy Lawden in powerscaling. That is, taking one category is enough to win.

For Tianyi's case the categories are Theory of Mind, Foresight and Planning.

For example let's match him against Chen Ran, Tianyi will take Theory of Mind, Foresight and Planning. That's enough to defeat Chen Ran💀

I mean, Tianyi basically counters Chen Ran so badly that he will toy with him so hard. It's no exaggeration to say he would completely map out Chen Ran's thinking processes and will reasoning everything he will do due to his Theory of Mind.

In fact it's not just Chen Ran. It applies to many other characters in my list.

Genuinely I don't see Tianyi losing unless it's puzzle solving scenarios against Chen Ran.

This makes me further realize that taking more categories doesn't mean you will be the winner💀

And it's not like his Theory of Mind doesn't have any process otherwise I wouldn't even scale him.

In my opinion, he isn't the smartest character I know. But he is one of the most terrifying depictions of Intelligence I have ever seen in my life...

&gt;!This is with an in depth look since you would need an analysis to extract all the processes in his feats because the explanations later are summarized and expands from the earlier parts of the story!<

Cai Zhiyuan>Wang Lu, No difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Fang Yuan, Low difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Guo Jia, Mid difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Zhuge Liang, Mid-High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Li Gang, Mid-High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Sora, Mid-High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Kang Jinhyeok, High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Lü Yang, High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Lin Sizhi, Very High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Lynch, Very High difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Ang Xiao, Extreme difficulty

Cai Zhiyuan>Chen Ran, Extreme difficulty

Colonel Timo>Cai Zhiyuan, Very High difficulty

First Saint>Cai Zhiyuan, High difficulty

Niu Youdao>Cai Zhiyuan, Mid difficulty

Pun Yunchuan>Cai Zhiyuan, Low difficulty

https://youtu.be/lcMvwrM6TUQ?si=x53Asxpk387k4lSd

I swear some years ago I was doing research on high iq individuals like Marilyn Vos Savvant and that intelligent man that had a sad life. Then one day out of nowhere this guy appeared out of nowhere, I swear I was searching everyday and yet this guy appeared out of nowhere one day.

So I checked around and all the deceptions he did were crazy. For example there was a site attributed to him when I searched hard enough and it was basically rewarding great minds for their achievements and I knew damn well it was fabricated(There is a video about it done by a guy named planetpeterson If I recall) so basically he was awarding people with nonexistent awards and without them knowing💀

He probably has connections and there seems to be a lot of suspicious info around this guy, I am guessing most of them are fabricated. Literally deceived the internet about his intelligence.

He once made an edit of himself if I recall 😂

Self glaze was crazy.

He is probably only pretending to be a religious believer to further extend his influence. He managed to buy some people's trust by speaking quantum physics nonsense(You would understand that it's nonsense if you know some knowledge in the field)

I don't remember everything but I have seen this guy pull out crazy mass deception feats. If you want you can search on the internet about some fraudulent behavior he did.

This is also why I don't take people who brag about their iqs seriously🥀

Please Er Liang Bai Kai, give us some CR scheming feat😭🙏

I am on my knees begging, pleasee Er Liang we need ts, our Chen Ran is kinda offenseless😭🙏🥀

Worst offense among my top tiers💔

Chen Ran can reason every scheme, Chen Ran is immune yeh yeh one of the highest defenses in methodology, lowkey I even think the devil advisor- Tianyi from Sinmonger can kill Chen Ran because Tianyi has crazy Theory of Mind and will find his weakness before CR can even attack him🥀

He has three best schemes. Killing Shu Renjun scheme, Killing Ying Silian scheme and Ego loss tribulation scheme(defensive)

Kang Jinhyeok destroys all of them in schemes, even ravages of time cast destroys Chen Ran in offense bro what is this🥲

His offense and scheming still above the likes of Fang Yuan but those around the same level as him brutally destroy him. The only thing that stops Chen Ran from beating First Saint and those higher than him is him lacking scheming and offensive💔💔💔

I'm so envious of the characters with perfect memory😭🙏

This isn't just your normal abnormal medical condition Eidetic memory. But certain characters can instantly recall every scene in their life with 99.9999% accuracy and they never get tired from it.

Thinking patterns from characters can be learned. Knowledge they apply can be known too but you can never replicate their cognition.

Imagine just how much you can do with said ability. I could have consumed 2000 chapters of pure slop in one day and completely remember all chapters. I could just easily learn all languages in days and download all the videos, songs and musics I want in my head. And it's not that medical condition where embarrassing memories plays 24/7

All of these characters are in my top tiers category, except starting from the 3rd place which is Top Tier+

10.) Li Qing [The Terrible Eternal Path]

9.) The Lynch [Blackstone Code]

Extreme difficulty

8.) Chen Ran [18loh]

Very High difficulty

7.) Ang Xiao [BATICS]

Extreme difficulty

6.) Cai Zhiyuan [God's Imitation]

Very High difficulty(+)

5.) Colonel Timo [SoloMaxLevelNewbie]

Extreme difficulty(-)

4.) First Saint [BATICS]

Extreme difficulty

3.) The Prophet [The Demon World I Designed]

High difficulty

2.) Niu Youdao [Heavenly Genius]

Extreme~Insanse difficulty

1.) Pun Yunchuan [The Demon World I Designed]

Mid-High difficulty

There will be more characters from TDWID but I don't know where they scale yet.

I guess place bets on when you think the next top 1 will emerge, dethroning the previous one.

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https://x.com/wifiejwn38/status/2023108698554708064

Not gonna lie, after reading 18loh other scd works that aren't top tier no longer seemed complex.

Wdym there's no time travels?

Wdym they don't stack layers on top of the paradoxes?

Wdym there are no parallel universes?

Wdym there is no superposition and special relativity?

People really read the first 800 chapters of pure slop of batics. Thinking they will finally reach the pinnacle of accessible scd, and then the moment they reach the good part, suddenly everyone is now an Ang Xiao victimizer and he isn't even top 10 anymore💔

Old Liu, Emperor Xiao, King of Qin, Pun Yunchuan, First Saint, Niu Youdao, Cai Zhiyuan, Colonel Timo, and possibly more characters are all above Ang Xiao hell you can even make arguments that Chen Ran is above Ang Xiao with the latest arc now🥀

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Seniors what makes you think that a cultivation novel is bad or good?

7.) The Eighteen Levels Of Hell:Lying is Forbidden Here: (I mean it's alright for the most part. But the reason it isn't mid in writing is due to Shu Renjun, Diwu Zhiyi, a few moments and few characters.)

6.) Being A Talent In Chusheng Demon Sect (Decent writing, focuses more on enjoyability. I honestly liked Ang Xiao and First Saint as a character and Lu Yang's development. )

5.) Solo Max Level Newbie (Great writing. I found Kang Jinhyeok's character to be enjoyable tbh. There's quite a few good moments.)

4.) God Imitation (Great writing, drama stuff and characters feel alive)

3.) Sinmonger (Great writing by a goated author. Characters have emotions and all)

2.) Heavenly Genius (Peak writing. The politics and drama is amazing)

1.) Blackstone Code: (Absolute peak of writing😭🙏)

Idk yet: The Demon World I Designed, The Terrible Eternal Path, Malazan, Kingdoms' Bloodline,

I predict that it might push Fang Yuan to Extremely High Tier with whatever the final battle would be.