u/Anagenist

I tried posting this in the INFJ sub and the MBTI sub, but apparently they BOTH have a "no astrology" rule so it got kicked out. Ouch, tough mods. 😵‍💫

So I'm an INTP. In my astrological chart, there's this thing that comes up called scorpio energy, and I've been told I have a scorpio gaze. Now, what I'm wondering about at this point - I understand that if you look for a definition of each, the reasoning is unique but...

Do they look the same?

Anyone here familiar enough with both?
Have you ever been able to tell the difference when you randomly lock eyes with strangers in public?

Just curious.

So I enjoy stacking typology systems together to form a more complete idea. I'm confident about which types I am in all the things. This is about what I learned about myself from my zodiac birth chart.

I'm not talking about things like "mercury in retrograde" directly. That just seems like a pretty artistic layer on top of some more thought out system underneath. This is the impression that I get.

Has anyone ever compared the functional descriptions that a zodiac birth chart uses to philosophically describe someone's personality with another underlying system that might reveal that it's built on anything like socionics, enneagrams tritype graph, or somehow calculates Jungian psychological types underneath all the talk of planets?

I'm just getting started poking into the question for myself. So just curious if any others have looked into this. If so, what did you find?

EDIT - Adding more description as to what I was thinking. I had this in a comment, but feels worth putting up here.

- The four elements as temperaments
- Sun/Moon/Ascendant to describe a combination that explains the way one acts with those temperaments
- 3 Modalities: Cardinal, Fixed, Mutable [how one acts/reacts towards actions/goals]
- Squares, trines, oppositions drawn on the circle geometrically for more info.

This creates a set of '12 types' using the circle geometry.

Like, comparing the geometry of it alone to how it draws out a description of a personality interests me much in the same way that an enneagram draws the shape it makes to define 'wings' and tritypes. Then it has variants [like squares and trines I guess], or something. The 3 modalities in zodiac charts somewhat seem to work structurally similar to quadras in socionics? I'm not an expert in that really, just giving my novice surface level inquiry about these things.

That's kind of where I'm going with this. Strip away the ideas that it's constellations, planets, whatever. That doesn't matter, right. It's that the way it's drawn by taking in just a few points of information, and then generates a lengthy detailed [albeit sometimes vague] description of a personality... That is what I'm interested in. I have a lot more to read about the systems; but this is what I'm trying to understand better.