At what point can we not classify something as a remake or "same universe" movie?
So I just saw a video on remakes that are so much worse than the original. It never occurred to me that "The Hustle" (2019) is a remake of "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels" because I got so little from the remake. In hindsight, I can see how it is a remake of DRS. However, it did get me thinking - at what point can something no longer be considered a remake or in the same universe as another film?
The biggest one that always comes to mind for me is "Cheaper by the Dozen" (2022). It's CbtD in name only. It's really more of "Yours, Mine, and Ours." It's a blended family with 10 kids between them. The titular dozen in this remake includes the parents. Every previous iteration is about two parents raising 12 kids.
Others I can think of are "The Karate Kid" (2010) which doesn't even deal with karate, The Mummy (2017), and Total Recall (2012). It's hard to differentiate from films that just twist the source material and ones that genuinely have nothing to do with the original.
I genuinely want to know people's opinions on when a movie can even be classified as a remake versus it's an "In Name Only" remake.