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My economy exploded (good)... then exploded (bad)... then exploded (good)

My economy exploded (good)... then exploded (bad)... then exploded (good)

So, doing a Canada game. Super fun. Decided to stay as dominion. I was able to get multiculturalism early, so I've been industrializing like crazy and get tons of migration. I had the highest GDP and highest GDP per capita in the world.

I had high level institutions, very high loyalists, etc. Business was booming! Most of this time I had a small deficit, but in the 1890s it began to balloon. But my credit was so high and my GDP was growing, so I wasn't concerned about it.

At this point it was a bit after 1900--I decided it'd be a good idea to request market control from the British. Bad idea. Instantly my GDP was halved to be about 250 million.

Then my deficit began increasing rapidly. The reason it began really ramping up in the 1890s was that I had absent-mindedly passed Old Age pensions. This was fine until I ramped them up to be level 5. At their peak, I was sending out 2.5 million a week in pensions. I did not catch this for a little bit.

My initial reaction to the huge deficit and GDP loss was to hold steady for a bit and get some trade agreements set up--hoping that we could import what we need. The buildings did import what they needed--but the deficit did not go away and the GDP kept eroding.

So I then started to kinda hit the panic button. Added some extra taxes. I tried to trim the fat in my budget (obviously not my 2.5 million welfare payments, though), so I decided to... cancel my subsidies on several building types... primarily the railroads.

This lead to the complete collapse of my railroad industry, which decimated my infrastructure in every province and ruined my market access. Small-scale famine began in my Northern provinces since they couldn't import any food.

AT THIS POINT... I finally realized the dang welfare payments were tanking me. I started downgrading the institution, but I had reached my debt cap at this point. I then went to my government and pushed for wage subsidies, which has a lower payout cap than old age pensions. This passed after a bit of time.

I declared bankruptcy and then very carefully micromanaged my economy for several years, rejoined the British market, and fully have recovered.

I went from 500 million GDP with a 25 SOL to 50 million GDP with a 7 SOL. I have since recovered back to 500 million GDP with about 23 SOL.

Since taking this screenshot last night, I actually shot up to 1 billion GDP!

u/mikelo_01 — 38 minutes ago
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My friend was playing multiplayer yesterday and Karl Marx became a British general

u/xtheresia — 7 hours ago
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I present to you: The United States of the Americas

u/DavlerS — 16 hours ago
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It's a bit silly that the easiest way to do a reconquista of the Americas is to forsake reconquista

I got the Reconquista achievement shortly after the launch of Iberian Twilight, while Infamy for protectorate wars was still bugged, so I recently decided to try to do it again legitimately.

It was pretty rough! You get a ton of infamy and have to constantly be on the watch for US and Britain intervening. I'm not here to complain about it being hard though, it should be, Spain reconquering her colonies is pretty absurd and should be difficult.

I did another game as Spain, this time deciding to go for normalisation.

I did treaties with all the former colonies, recognizing their independence, usually in return for investment rights and a power bloc embassy. This, in addition to the bonuses provided by the JE, allowed me to pretty quickly get them all in my bloc, a sovereign empire, and then I was able to turn them all into subjects. All of that significantly faster and with way less infamy than when I pursued reconquista.

Of course, this didn't allow me to reorganize the colonies and I didn't get the nice bonus at the end, but it still felt wrong that this was easier to achieve than when I decided to actively pursue it. Maybe the Reconquista JE should provide just some small bonus while active to avoid this.

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u/Hastur_13 — 15 hours ago
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Victoria DLC

Funny difference between Victoria 3 and Eu4, with how I engaged with their DLC. When I got into EU4, buying all of the "required" DLC was right around 200 dollars. I... did not have that money, nor did I want to spend it on a game. I mean, I bought the humble bundle whenever it came up, but they are always no less than 2 required DLC out of date, and that's just exhausting.

With Victoria 3, only 2 of the 6 DLC is considered required.. And I bought them. And when I finally get free cashflow, I'll be buying more, because it has earned my support. Turns out, I kinda like actually playing the Steam version, and Vikky3 isn't trying to milk me for every cent that I don't have. I genuinely appreciate it.

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u/GreyGanks — 14 hours ago
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Good evening fellow pacifists

R5: My Serbian pacifist ig leader has some interesting outfit choices.

u/GLS_Ketelbinkie — 1 day ago

I should have trusted y'all when you said to do the military buildup

Analysis of two branches of the USE timeline I keep posting about, specifically the war with GB.

If I don't try military buildup first

War starts in1892. Spain, Russia, and US join my side. I can hold against their naval invasions, but I can't counterattack and Russia just so happens to have a revolution that our remaining forces can't defeat. (This also happened in my India run.) Best I could manage before Russia imploded was getting them to 0 war support, but I couldn't white peace.

If I do try military buildup first

War starts in 1891. Spain and Russia join my side, but US joins Britain. As you might expect, naval invasions everywhere under the sun, but we held them off. Continued to build up as Britain neglected to attack me, praying for a naval invasion success. Other fronts have slowly ground down, except in Africa which is a bit broken. A couple combatants had civil wars in the middle, thankfully not Russia itself but its subjects did. Eventually, America just capitulated.

A while later, our war participation was falling faster than Britain's, so I kinda panicked and ordered a Sealion: two naval invasions, one to the Highlands and one to Yorkshire. The Highlands one actually went through, so I sent in my big original army (on standby in case Britain naval invaded my mainland) and started walking down the islands. This caused the Brits to flip out and try counter-Sealioning, which failed due to yet another of the armies I had been raising, and I eventually took the home islands. The struggle for Britain was so bloody that it gave me the "All quiet on the western front" achievement for my efforts.

u/PLMMJ — 12 hours ago
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Does the Logging Camp leviathan have a name?

he loves wood processing

u/IcyBus8583 — 1 day ago
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Victoria 3 needs the pops to be arbitrarily racist andfor cultures to have 'grudges' to have proper historical simulation and to be more fun.

Every campaign consists of liberalizing slowly and the optimal thing to do is encouraging migration into your country. The pops of primary culture will never 'push' against it. They will get only radicalized if they go unemployed, not becouse 'THEY took mur jerb', but becouse 'I have no job'. Filling your 10 million population african country with 1 million of chinese and 2 millions of french should absolutely radicalize the majority primary culture - it should cause some sort of 'cultural friction' - where through cultural shock the cultures that historically have no ties through meeting in 1 state start radicalizing against each other (the strength of the friction should be based on the amount and speed of the arrival of foreign pops).

This cultural friction should be able to grow into a grudge. Let's say (idk just making up stuff, ok?) you are a France and you lose a war against Germany. The French pops in your country should develop a grudge against German pops - they should want to A) implement laws specifically against German pops in France. B) Should get radicalized if you as France (country) improve opinion with Germany or even sign any 'friendly' treaty (never mind an alliance) with them, should grow radical if you don't fight against Germany in diplomatic play for long time. C) Should care less about other minory pops (focus shifts onto the culture with grudge).

Through propaganda the player could increase the levels of friction/grudge or decrease it. The player could spread the propaganda outside his own country to others - different cultures with grudge against the same culture could have less 'friction' between each others, nations with majority of such primary cultures should have better opinion of each other etc. The factory owners of culture X that has grudge against culture Y should refuse to hire pops of culture Y.

This would also encourage playing tall and not painting the map. Since going into war would cause grudges and friction.

Furthermore the majority primary culture should always want to stay the absolute majority, to be privileged over the others and lowering this relative privilege (by lowering the levels of oppression on the minorities) should radicalize them. The game takes place in 19th century, not the 21st.

The game has complete blind spot when it comes to human behavior, it pretends that racism and xenophobia exists in society becouse it's ordained by rules. It sees racism as 'trickle down' thing - where racist institutions and laws are the causes of racism (not the other way around), it believes that people are not inherently racist and xenophobic, but institutions and laws cause them to be. The game of course then shows why such position is naive: if it were the case, no state would ever enact racist laws and as such the states shouldn't have the racist laws enacted on start dates - but historically that isn't the case.

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u/SilentCockroach123 — 1 day ago

Achievements of the Great Wave Ideas

In tomorrow’s Dev Diary they will show us the new achievements. Until then we can guess what they wil be. So write a comment with your ideas. Here are mines:

Three Mountains: Starting as Ryukyu conquer the world be the #1 country.

You need new capitals: In a war destroy the flagship of your enemy and take their capital state.

Bismarck in motion: Playing as Germany build a battleship with max hull and firepower.

You shall not pass: Posses both side of a strait and close it from everyone.

Undecided restoration: Starting as Japan finish the Honorable Restoration JE with the parlamentary path.

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u/OkSquash5254 — 6 hours ago
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Let me just try and get back into this game with a nice and easy Belgium run....

Bought the Spheres of Influence and Charters of Commerce DLCs and decided to play a game as Belgium to ease myself back into the game.

Started a major European war and game over within 6 years.

u/stephjuan — 1 day ago
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If there was a decision that let you effectively sacrifice 10,000 people for 5% construction efficiency for 10 years, you would take it, wouldn’t you.

Are we the baddies?

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u/blindseersarasti — 1 day ago