r/lumo

Ich bin soeben auf das Interview von Andy Yen in {ungeskriptet} aufmerksam geworden. Der Podcast macht gerade wegen des Interviews mit Björn Höcke Schlagzeilen. Auch sonst trifft sich dort das Who is Who der deutschen Schwurbel- und Rechtextremistenszene. Über Yens angebliche Sympathien für die Republikanische Partei wurde ja berichtet. Ich frage mich, wie politisch unabhängig Proton ist.

My laziness led me to use Lumo for a search about a congressman’s time in office. I had to correct it, as it was the congressman didn’t run last election, while he is actually currently in office and up for reelection.

“You're right to be concerned, {my name}. My initial answer was wrong - I claimed Massie was serving his 5th term when he's actually in his 8th. That's a significant factual error, and it undermines trust.
Here's where things stand:
My limitations:
I have a knowledge cutoff (April 2024) and can't reliably track real-time political information without tools
Even with web search, I can misinterpret or misstate information
I should have verified before giving you a specific number
What I got wrong:
Wrong term count (5th vs. 8th)
Wrong claim about him not seeking re-election in 2024
Wrong implication about his current status
For factual accuracy on topics like this:
Official sources like Congress.gov or GovTrack are more reliable
Ballotpedia tracks election history systematically
For current congressional terms, those sources update in real-time
I appreciate you calling out the error directly. It's frustrating when you need accurate information and get confidently wrong answers. If you're looking for reliable fact-checking on political figures, I'd recommend cross-referencing with official congressional records rather than relying solely on assistants like me.
Is there something else I can help you with where I can be more careful about accuracy?”

Hi! I am a PhD student who is working in the field of science, and I actually face a problem where I do not wish to upload my unpublished research results to AI providers which can access my conversations.

To me, Lumo currently seems to be the best option for that. Now we have good support with chatting with PDFs, and with web search. If we can have a Deep Research mode, that would even be better.

However, most of my colleagues seem to be unaware of the privacy concerns with using the common AI providers out there. I am thinking, there seems to be an unexplored market for academics out there.

Would you agree with this? And should Proton try to explore the market for people in academics? Any feature that would make this even more attractive for people doing research?

Hello,

Just a comment on chat history for the free version, the expiration after 5 days should be changed.

1. For random individuals using it, the 5 day rule makes sense, but

2. For proton users, especially paid proton users, this limitation makes no sense when we already get GBs of space through free and paid accounts.

Other limitations in image processing or other features make sense overall. The chat history does not.

I have been trying out Lumo's free version for a few days and the hallucinations are frustratingly frequent. I understand why they do not disclose which models are handling queries or allow users to select specific ones, likely to streamline usage for simpler tasks. But even basic questions can trigger hallucinations and the model often fails to retain context from the previous sentence. The hard limit of five web searches per query does not help either. So far my experience has been underwhelming. I'm not sure if Lumo+ improves things but at the very least Proton should be more transparent about which models are in use and ensure more consistent model selection.

I want to do AI-assisted OCR of some private writings. Obviously this is something where Lumo could bring a huge advantage over ChatGPT or others.

Hi all, I want to say up front I am a Proton Visionary subscriber, and incredibly supportive of Proton building a truly private AI service. I was very excited when it rolled out, but haven't used it much compared to other services like Claude and Gemini.

I use Claude quite a bit professionally, and have personal Claude and Gemini subscriptions. My Gemini annual subscription is coming to an end, so I've started to send small/easy requests to Lumo to get a feel for the model, and I have been shocked at the basic errors it is making compared to other services.

Example:
I gave Lumo a fairly softball prompt: I have 500GB of files stored on a NAS that I'd like to make an offsite storage backup of on Proton Drive. What would be the most efficient way for me to do this task manually?

It provided quite a fluffy answer, so I gave it some additional context, and stated the brand and model of the NAS. It recommended I download and install the Proton Drive Linux client, which obviously does not exist. I reminded it of the model NAS I'm using, and pointed out that even if a linux client existed for Proton Drive, it would not be able to install it because the NAS is not running an OS that would allow for a GUI based app to be installed like a typical linux distribution. As I pushed it for a solution, it starting making up hardware specs for the NAS I named, and then recommended a convoluted docker solution for making this hypothetical one-time backup. I pushed back on spinning up a docker container for a one-time job and reminded it I was looking for the most efficient manual backup of these files, and it finally recommended that I copy all 500GB to a computer that has the ability to install the Proton Drive client application, compress the files in tar gz format, and then using the Proton Drive app, perform the backup. Obviously still not the most efficient method, I gave up.

I have asked it other questions in other chats with better success, but I felt like the test prompt would be a fairly easy test and couldn't believe the errors. I'm running in to a LOT of context misses, even if I just mentioned or reminded the model of the details, it seems to just ignore the information or disregard it entirely when responding.

As I said before, I use Claude professionally daily, and have both Claude and Gemini subscriptions personally. I feel like I am very familiar with how to use AI tools in general, but I was really taken back by how poorly Lumo performed on the easy questions. I assume Proton is tracking and working to improve, I'd love to be able to cancel my Gemini subscription or let it lapse and rely on Lumo for all my personal uses.

Is there a way to improve context awareness and accuracy that I am missing?

EDIT: Shortened the message, and also added that I have Automatic web search enabled, and I am on Lumo+

Lumo isn't bad if you give him a good prompt. But we should get option to pickup up model. Also should be an option to upload own model(from proton list) like ollama have.

Maybe I’m missing something. If this is already an option then please lmk.

I love the idea of having a private llm to work with. Mostly as an idea though.

I personally don’t actually need it. I’ve vibe coded 2 projects and I’m looking into doing more. I mostly use llms to go down various rabbit holes that fascinate me. Usually for 2mins to 2 weeks at a time.

I’m 100% fine with sharing at least 95% of all of that if it helps the model grow and makes it more capable for others to use who actually need privacy. Ei journalists and activists.

It seems in some spaces telemetry is highly frowned upon. When it’s forced on everyone at all times that is 100% true imo. I tend to opt out of data collection except for projects I believe in, which right now is not a long list.

For this project I’d like to opt in. Maybe even on a per conversation/message basis.

Just to be clear, I am NOT speaking about image generation or anything.

Simply giving an image file as input.

From browser it gives an error.

From app simply does nothing. I click the image file but I don’t see it in the chat, but without warning.

If I try to select an image from Proton Drive it seems it let me but then I am not sure it is using it.

I am confused….it seems a basic feature to me. What am I missing?

https://preview.redd.it/6w2bnehmzqzg1.png?width=990&format=png&auto=webp&s=8c2b60d2399e4d261f0f5ba60e9622ebc0189df1

I built Lumode — a sleek local coding agent that runs on Proton’s privacy-first AI, Lumo. It gives Lumo a beautiful terminal UI and deep native integration with your filesystem, shell, and more, turning it into a truly powerful coding companion. Fully open source and super smooth to use.

Check it out: https://github.com/foxxytux/lumode

Feedback welcome!

I've seen a few posts recently from people frustrated that Lumo "isn't seeing" their linked Drive files. I want to clear up how this feature actually works, because the behavior people are reporting isn't a bug, it's by design.

Connecting a Drive folder or adding files to Project Knowledge does not mean every file gets loaded into every response. That would be wasteful and would actively hurt response quality.

Here's what actually happens when you link Drive to a Project:

1. Sync: Lumo pulls in and indexes the files it can access
2. Retrieve: when you send a message, Lumo searches that index for what's relevant (typically fewer than 5 files, depending on relevance scores)
3. Ground: only the matching files are included in the request to the model
4. Respond: the model answers using that targeted context

The retrieval step is the whole point. A Project with 500 documents doesn't send 500 documents to the model, it sends the two or three that matter for your question.

If Lumo didn't use a file you expected it to, it most likely means retrieval didn't rank it as relevant not that the file is missing or the integration is broken. That's not to say that bugs can't exist, but current reports or messages here are 99% likely down to this behaviour.

Link everything you need. Trust the retrieval 🙂

So like when I use Lumo, there is just one thing I missed using that other AIs have, like live voice chat, other AI apps have live voice chat, but not Lumo, i honestly wonder when it gets added cause it can feel more like a conversation, and if I had to type a long a long sentence, it would take forever, while voice chat makes it like quicker, the only voice feature I get with Lumo is recording my voice and letting it transcribe to a prompt, I just hope we get live voice chat sooner

A bit tedious to have to rename these to .txt for Lumo to accept.