r/jackdenmo

After watching the youtube video, as a Canadian male, I was totally angry at the state of the legal system in Canada.

After spending the last two hours looking into the case, my opinion has totally shifted to feeling bad for the complainant...

Here are some of the most notable facts of the case I found:

• In Jack’s appeal the testimony is that he had an: “honest but mistaken belief in communicated consent.” (i.e., Jack telling the court that he did not have consent during the encounter, but mistakenly thought he did). This includes pushing her on the bed and inserting it...
• Jack admitted that without consent he tried to film the complainant giving him the zuckzuck3000. Jack's representation argued that the video was filmed for the purposes of obtaining consent. Literally, filming it after it started. The judge rejected the argument stating it would be “nonsensical” to record the zuckzuck3000 for the purposes of consent.
• The withheld evidence that Jack speaks about actually further confirms the complainants story. (e.g., Within three minutes of the complainant leaving his place, she sent texts to friends stating that they had sex despite her not wanting to.)

Sources:

Some of the case files are on Canada's legal database (CanLii): Search "Jack Densmore" here: www.canlii.org

The full transcripts are located at the website listed in the video description: https://freedenmo.com/

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtaJ0QTOLz8

So I just watched the video and this case in canada is really similar to one of the chinese court cases that became popular on chinese forums like a year back when the girl rejected the idea of having given consent *after* the sextual intercourse and it caused a huge wave of men fearing for sex and relationships. That chinese man was also sent to prison for 3 years.

I am not in the power to tell whether he is actually guilty or not, but i would like to point out the social impact of court decisions like this. If consent is something that can be revoked after sextual intercourse, then no man are safe from woman just deciding whether to send the man to jail. In china forumers found actual online tutorials for girls to ruin a man's life and reputation using false accusation in which men starts to fear sextual relationships knowing that the court would stand against him if he was unlucky and this could lose him immense money/reputation/time.

When there was no clear indication of "NO" before intercourse, like this case when the two were still appearantly filrting online before they met, it's really hard to fucking tell that OK you don't like this and you want stop, espicially when the penis is in her mouth already and she only "didn't feel good" about the intercourse after. Maybe the experience was not to her liking, some say he filmed her and deleted after (no sign of using the vid as hostage / making it public since 2024) so in my opinion that only says he's a dick but I don't think any of his actions are illegal.

My idea is that when courts starts to install ideas like (no consent == rape) and the idea that consent can be revoked after intercourse/midfuck, I think that's really messed up and put a lot of men at risk of false accusation like (potentially) this one.

Some stuff he said about the police evidences were also crazy to me becasue in my opinion courts are used to evaluate evidences from all sides and police in my opinion should be a transparent third body that is not infavour to any side of the two, so when Jack said that police revoked key evidences that can proof him innocent and sided with the girl helpling her removing evidences that are at disadvantage to her, I think the police here did an unlawful thing to Jack and this is clearly messed up.

Also the court seemed to judge him as "guilty until proven innocent" as he was finding/presenting evidences that he was innocent; instead of the girl finding/presenting evidences how she was raped. All the girl needed is to say "I got raped" and every law protects her even if her saying contradicts herself, and the men who wants to proof himself innocent must gather all evidences to proof himself with very very limited data? This part of the law also seemed pretty fucked up to me.

I'm not a professional and I only viewed the video/some of the pdf evidences. We could maybe assume the court does a finer job at determining whether he is a rapist or not but I see how if I'm in that situation and someone were to try to falsely accuse me, how much trouble I could get into had I not actually done anything wrong. (IDK if Jack here did anything wrong, but I see the possibility here which is scary)