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Tech drilled into coil during service - company recommending replacement after
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Tech drilled into coil during service - company recommending replacement after

My parents recently had a well-known HVAC company come out to service their furnace. During the visit, the technician accidentally drilled into the coil. To his credit, he was immediately upfront about it and appeared genuinely embarrassed by the mistake, explaining that it happened while using a new drill bit. He also immediately called his supervisor, who sent another technician out to recover the refrigerant from the system.

Since then, the company has spent about two weeks attempting to locate a replacement coil for the system, which is approximately 25 years old.

For context, the unit was serviced about two years ago by a different company, and at that time they commented that it was in very good condition for its age. The system has also been operating without issues for the past 6 years under my parents’ ownership. It has routine maintenance records and appears to have been well cared for. It’s a propane furnace with A/C, located in the PNW.

The current company has now stated they’ve found a replacement coil, but they’ve also begun recommending a full system replacement, citing typical system lifespan (around 15 years). I have some familiarity with HVAC as well, and even I thought the condenser sounded strong for its age.

There have also been some noticeable gaps in communication, with longer pauses between updates from management. We’re not sure if that’s due to internal discussions or possibly something like an insurance process on their end.

Their current position is essentially that they will “fix it,” but the details of how that will be handled still feel somewhat open-ended.

Curious how others in the trade would view this situation in terms of responsibility and how it’s typically handled. At what point should expectations be more clearly defined if resolution starts to drag out?

u/send_me_boobei_pics — 3 hours ago
I’m hearing a dripping noise from my hvac. Check out this picture, is everything ok?

I’m hearing a dripping noise from my hvac. Check out this picture, is everything ok?

I changed the filter a couple of days ago and noticed some liquid drops on it. Put in a new one, keep hearing drops. Took out the filter and looked up to see this (i think these are the evaporator coils?) is this a bad look? HVAC was installed a year and a half ago, new.

u/filorb — 1 hour ago

Over 40 years in residential HVAC and loving it.

I’ve been in HVAC for 40+ years and honestly, it’s one of the more stable trades you can get into. There’s always demand, and once you’re licensed you can make a solid living or even run your own business. It’s not easy work, but if you’re willing to learn and stick with it, it can pay off long-term.

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u/No_Bug_5169 — 2 hours ago
Image 1 — Dog peeing on AC Unit
Image 2 — Dog peeing on AC Unit
Image 3 — Dog peeing on AC Unit

Dog peeing on AC Unit

Our Ac Unit is fairly new and our dog continues to pee on it. Looking for some ways I can block it off with the little room I have on the left side without blocking the airflow for the AC unit.

Thank you

u/ThemexicanYeeee — 8 hours ago
Image 1 — Furnace repair estimate: seems a tad high...
Image 2 — Furnace repair estimate: seems a tad high...
Image 3 — Furnace repair estimate: seems a tad high...

Furnace repair estimate: seems a tad high...

Got a $3800 estimate for:

  1. Replacing blower motor ($2100)

  2. Cleaning the blower wheel ($1130) and

  3. $400 to replace a single run capacitor.

Which comes out to a nice $3780 total after"10% off"

While I'm far, far from an HVAC specialist, this seems way, way inflated, even for the state of Connecticut.

Just the cleaning quote alone seems ridiculous: it is literally clearing the blower wheel with a brush or compressed air, not replacing it. It is hard to see how that can cost $1130....

Any opinion would be greatly appreciated...

u/Sad_Mathematician135 — 10 hours ago
Image 1 — What could be causing this?
Image 2 — What could be causing this?

What could be causing this?

Air handler turns on but it isnt cooling the house, but this area is freezing up?

Freon was checked and filled in the last 3 months, filter gets changed. Could it be a sensor?

u/barkingspring20 — 8 hours ago
Extending High Efficiency Furnace Direct Vents
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Extending High Efficiency Furnace Direct Vents

Hi all. Well, it has been a rough winter in Massachusetts and I am looking to install a standby generator. I have the perfect spot for it next to the chimney to tie in to gas and electrical, but the issue is my direct vent furnace pipes (intake and exhaust) are right next to the chimney. The generator tech said that was an easy fix - just extend the vent pipes so they are to code (not within 5 ft. of the generator). There is already about 4 feet of exposed vent pipe, so adding 5 feet will bring it to around 9.

I am not planning on doing this myself, I will have HVAC out, but I like to have a good sense of the situation before I have someone out to do the work. So this is the situation:

  • It is a Bryant furnace, 40,000 BTUH Model #926TA3040V17

  • If I’m reading correctly according to the attached chart from the manual, for my 2” pipe and at 0 degrees winter design temp, I can have up to 25 feet of exposed pipe for the vent, as long as it has 3/8 inch insulation.

So, my question is - does anyone have a similar experience? If so, what is the best route to go down for exterior insulation that can withstand the elements, and is aesthetically pleasing?

u/Cheap_Intention_4936 — 10 hours ago
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What’s this noise???

Every morning for the last 3 days I’ve been hearing this pounding sound almost like a rattle. I cannot seem to find the source but it seems loudest in the basement… any advice!? Video below.

u/Folkwhore__13 — 16 hours ago
Does this AC unit look installed or are they just holding it up like that?

Does this AC unit look installed or are they just holding it up like that?

It’s been installed under the top of this house. It looks like a giant antenna. I’m wondering if it looks installed or not.

u/pogsjesus — 6 hours ago

Bosch Condensing Unit Slow Fan

I just moved into a newly renovated home this week. It's been a hot week so I set the thermostat down 5 or so degrees, the first time I've really paid attention to the A/C system. Later, I noticed the house was actually slowly warming instead of cooling.

I went out to the condensing unit and noticed the fan was running much slower than other units at other homes I've lived at. I also noticed that the copper line running out of it was essentially room temp (ditto for the copper line in the attic). After flipping the condenser breaker, the fan ran at a much higher speed and the copper lines got cold. A few minutes later, the unit clicked and returned to it's slow speed.

I checked the fuses on the boxes next to the outdoor and indoor units and all appear in working order (multimeter arrives tomorrow to confirm). I also changed the air filter. Any thoughts on what could be happening?

Including unit specs below:

Bosch Condensing Unit: Model# 8733955036

Unico Coil Module: Model# M3036CL1-B

Unico Blower Module: Model# M3036BL1-EC2

Thanks for your help!

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u/AspectIcy173 — 5 hours ago

HVAC

Company that installed our YORKS furnace and AC want to install a kick start(hard start) kit on our AC unit. At our expense 5.5 years into our 10 year warranty. At claims of overamping.

Thoughts?

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u/Strong_Front_3336 — 3 hours ago

Samsung Mini-split beeping won’t stop

Samsung mini split won’t stop beeping even when powered down.

The filter was cleaned recently and I’ve tried to reset by turning off the breaker for 15 minutes. Once I flipped the breaker back on it started right back up.

I can hear a whirring sound coming from the unit even when turned off.

I ran an auto clean cycle as well.

It connected to the WiFi and all other mini split units are working fine.

No strange sounds from the outside unit and there is no debris or anything around it that would cause an issue.

The unit is giving us any error codes.

The beeping is driving me nuts!! 😭

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u/No-Artichoke6528 — 4 hours ago

Whiffs of Mildew/Must when AC/heat kicks on

My old apartment smelled like mildew/must/maybe mold - its like a gross, kinda sweet smell. When I moved, I washed all of my clothes and wiped down surfaces. However, a week ago I realized the smell traveled to my new place via my hair dryer.

The cabinets under my sink now smell like that familiar smell. So far, I have tried airing it out with the bathroom fan on, putting baking soda down, and having maintenance come scrub it down.

But the smell hasn’t dissipated and now I’m starting to catch whiffs of it when my AC/heat kicks on. I’ve replaced the air filter to one that says it traps mold and allergens, but should I be worried that my bathroom fan has spread this smell to the rest of my apartment?

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u/patatascheesy — 4 hours ago
Image 1 — Replace? Cost?
Image 2 — Replace? Cost?

Replace? Cost?

I am looking at getting a little townhouse but I'm not an HVAC professional. Does this unit look a little tired and like it should be replaced? if so, what would be a reasonable price for a replacement? Orange County, CA.

bonus pic of a grounding rod that is just rebar, lol, even I know that is BS.

u/McCrazyJ — 4 hours ago
Image 1 — 1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line
Image 2 — 1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line
Image 3 — 1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line
Image 4 — 1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line
Image 5 — 1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line
Image 6 — 1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line

1980s North Texas HVAC: Buckling floors & a mystery drain line

​I noticed my hardwood floors buckling, so I’ve shut down the AC to find a suspected condensate clog. My home is a late-80s build in North Texas and I'm struggling to locate the exit point.

​The Situation:

  1. ​The Problem: Buckling floors near the unit; suspect a primary drain line clog.

  2. ​The Search: No external PVC pipes found. Only two metal/copper pipes outside (no water flowing from them).

  3. ​Troubleshooting: Used a shop vac to pull about a half-gallon of "gunk" from 5 the internal piping inside the house (shown in pics). I poured water down the T-switch/cleanout, but can’t find where it’s discharging.

​Current State: Secondary pan is dry now, but I’m hesitant to restart the AC without confirming the primary is clear.

​My Questions:

  1. ​Are these metal/copper pipes in the photos typical AC drain lines for a late-80s North Texas home?

  2. ​Is it common for the primary to tie into a bathroom sink P-trap in this area/era?

  3. ​How can I definitively verify the line is clear before I risk further floor damage?

​Any insights or feedback from the North Texas/HVAC community would be a lifesaver. I've been at this all weekend and am beat. Thanks in advance.

u/the-goat-of-TX0792 — 4 hours ago

Filter at Air Handler or Returns?

New-to-me house, previous owners had a 4” filter at the intake side of the air handler AND small filters in the grates of all 3 returns. Do I need all of those, or should I just use a filter at the air handler?

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u/MiddleAnywhere2207 — 12 hours ago
AMST drain line leakage at air handler AND in walls

AMST drain line leakage at air handler AND in walls

I recently had two new Goodman AMST (draw-through) air handlers installed. Since the installation, I have been getting recurring wet spots and stains on my ceiling (of the level below air handlers). Interestingly, the spots seem to move around on the ceiling of the level below, which I suspect is because the water is overflowing the internal pan and traveling across the closet floor or the emergency drain pan before dripping down. Both units' PVC by the drain pan have wetness at the bottom of PVC piping and are dry fitted currently.

There is no P-trap at the unit. There is a capped vent between the unit and the exterior trap; when I remove the cap and cover the vent pipe with my hand, I feel significant suction. The installer says the trap is exterior (underground), but the lack of a trap at the unit combined with the vacuum from the draw-through blower is preventing the unit from draining. The installer is suggesting to simply "glue the PVC joints," but I know that will not stop the internal pan from overflowing due to the negative pressure holding water in the pan which is probably causing the wetness and wet stains on my ceiling of the level below.

We are facing two difficult options due to the fact that there is only 1.5 inches of vertical clearance between the drain port and the platform:

  • Option A: Relocate the Trap. Install a P-trap at the unit (before the vent) where it belongs. This would require digging up the exterior stucco or ground to eliminate the existing buried trap to avoid double trapping, which would cause an air lock. Furthermore, there is currently not enough vertical clearance for a standard P-trap under the unit and I cannot find any p-traps anywhere that would work with the single inch of clearance we have.
  • Option B: Condensate Pump. Keep the existing exterior trap and install a condensate pump between the air handler drain and the vent pipe. The pumps require the PVC to be ~4 inches above the platform bottom, but we only have a quarter of that available. This would involve breaking part of the platform the air handler sits on. There is no more space because this is a compact closet that houses the air handler.

Questions

  1. Since I have no vertical room for a standard trap or a typical Little Giant pump, are there ultra-low-profile "Mini" or peristaltic condensate pumps that are rated for central air handlers and short enough for the clearance of less than 2 inches?
  2. For option B, can I leave the buried exterior trap alone? Are these two options in the right direction to fix this issue?
  3. Is the "moving wet spot" common when an internal drain pan overflows and the water follows the slope of the subfloor or joists?
  4. Why did my previous Lennox system have no problems with leakage despite the p-trap being exterior and the same plumbing setup? How are the physics 'changing' with this new system?
  5. Should my installer have seen this coming beforehand and installed the air handler at a more elevated position to allow for proper plumbing adjustments?
  6. General Advice? This is becoming a very frustrating headache and I am trying to be patient with the installer because they are an acquaintance but they are not listening to my technical reasonings above. It sounds like they are going to claim that this issue is outside of the scope of their contracted work and that he simply replaced the existing and nothing more.
u/jawfur — 4 hours ago
Gas Heater Quit

Gas Heater Quit

I have a Lennox G50UH(x) series gas heater that won't light. I changed the filter last night and had to take the door off to get the old filter out. while I had it open, I lightly vacuumed the inside of the cabinet. The cat frequently hangs out in the furnace room and it gets dusty and collects little cat hairs. After I put it back together, the furnace wouldn't light. The blower works, but no heat. I took a look at it a few minutes ago and noticed a small wire that I'm pretty sure needs to be re attached. I just want confirmation before I start messing with any of the wires inside the furnace. It's a very small white wire that I've circled in the picture. any help appreciated

u/Nikmac3131 — 4 hours ago
Image 1 — Does anyone know why the joints on the copper piping near my steam boiler are turning black?
Image 2 — Does anyone know why the joints on the copper piping near my steam boiler are turning black?

Does anyone know why the joints on the copper piping near my steam boiler are turning black?

My gas steam boiler was installed 24 years ago and seems to be working fine. I flush out any rust and clean the burners every year. However, I just noticed that the joints near the copper fittings have turned black, and it looks like the solder joints may be starting to fail.

Should I be concerned?

u/Roysterama — 4 hours ago

Somewhat new technician

Hello everyone, ill try to keep this short. Just could use some advice.

I just got offered a technician job out here in Northern California but it’s commission based. Like under $18 per hour base if my commissions for the week don’t exceed that.

Good gig or should I look for a non sales technician spot? I don’t plan on upselling everyone I can just to survive but I would need decent commissions just to get equal pay from my last job.

Does anyone have a sales technician job and enjoy the pay?

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u/Temporary-Studio-168 — 10 hours ago
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