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Staircase surprises
In recent runs, I seem to have come across what seems like a higher than average number of spawn camped staircases upon first going down (and in the worst case scenarios, all the stairs are in one LOS area)
In the second pic, I was a midgame PoEn with really high stealth and everything was still immediately awake!
As a mediocre player I usually brute force it by just burning through consumables, but obviously this seems suboptimal, wondering what everyone’s favorite strategies/tricks for beating these spawn camped floor/branch entries are?
Edit: I should say on midgame characters especially since a late game blaster can just Chain Lightning/Shatter their way out obviously
u/_kvltworx_ — 2 days ago
▲ 12 r/dcss
YASD This one really hurt. 95 AC/EV/SH, an accidental gem, my first ever, killed by water nymphs.
crawl.akrasiac.orgu/onmach — 10 hours ago
▲ 18 r/dcss
How do i get better?
Ive been playing for over a decade, taking long breaks here and there. I have some wins under my belt but nothing in the advanced species ever. I haven't won a single time in the new release but have died in Zot a few times. I do all the usual tactical stuff but admit I rush sometimes. I feel like I hit a skill ceiling I cant break through and its frustrating me. Maybe this is a question people cant answer but is there any advice people can give to identify my weak points and push through? Playthroughs on YouTube?
u/BungusAmonguss — 1 day ago
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Species in order of least fun to most fun.
- Mummy
- Vine Stalker
- Felid
- Gale Centaur
- Oni
- Deep elf
- Octopode
- Human
- Spriggan
- Naga
- Troll
- Kobold
- Demonspawn
- Coglin
- Revenant
- Gargoyle
- Formicid
- Minotaur
- Draconian
- Poltergeist
- Djinni
- Mountain Dwarf
- Demigod
- Gnoll
- Merfolk
- Barachi
- Tengu
Its clear that I dislike the races that just slap on -HP% or bad all around aptitudes as a way to make the race more challenging.
Any race that is just more squishy and has bad defenses as a way to make gameplay more interesting is just repetitive and duplicative design. It would be fine if there were one or two squishy characters with no defenses but there are far too many in the game right now and "no defenses" is just an easy, slapdash way to devs to make a race more challenging. Make their weaknesses more interesting and gameplay relevant than just "Hey this guy has very little health to balance the powers the race has."
Vinestalker, Oni, Troll, Octopode, Spriggan, deep elf, all feel too similar in gameplay due to the most important gameplay mechanic between the 5 of them being how squishy and easy to kill they are. Tengu is the only one I like because the innate acrobat is great for any build and teaches players to run away from combats. A very well designed race that actually feels worth the lack of HP rather than just being an outright hinderance and handicap.
u/Primary-Dentist7055 — 5 days ago
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I'm just so sick of being so squishy. I've died in zot with great resistances and defences twice because the damage spikes just keep coming and coming, and I just get so low that I need to use haste or tele or blink to escape and I just run out of consumables. I did a berzerker, destroy the tesseract and lo and behold of course there are 4 orbs of winter right behind it who just demolish me instantly with no ability to counter whatsoever and I'm completely out of consumables.
Every time I die its because get hit twice on some lucky hits and damage in one turn and i'm automatically in the red AND my mp is gone so I can't use god powers.
Got storm form up in another run, died to some BS.
I really, really think this race is unfun to play. I am literally having more fun playing felid. It just a race where it was like "What if you feel weak literally all the time"
Tying to even figure out how a stabbing build could work its just anti fun and so much meaningless finagling of positioning and tedious crap like that (Reminds me of stair dancing shit). Don't even suggest uskayaw to me. I just die before I can even kill the first dude in the group. I don't know how you expect me to build up the piety to kill these groups with stabbing once they fall asleep. I'm literally in the red before they even fall asleep. Then, after I stab one, all the rest of them wake up. Dead.
u/Primary-Dentist7055 — 6 days ago
▲ 6 r/dcss
Advice please on MiFi Quaz for extended
For the first time ever, I sliced through Zot 5 like I was a longbow archer at the battle of Agincourt and my hubris says go for a 4+ rune run but I know enough to ask your opinion first. I've only got one pip of fire but it doesn't seem to matter. My health only dips with torment etc.
Morgue here :
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.35-a0-364-g274e6c4f07 (webtiles) character file.
natski123 the Slayer (Minotaur Fighter) Turns: 73947, Time: 05:17:03
Health: 298/298 AC: 48 Str: 30 XL: 27
Magic: 29/29 EV: 24 Int: 15 God: Qazlal [******]
Gold: 2826 SH: 8 Dex: 16 Spells: 26/26 levels left
rFire + . . (50%) o - +18 lance "Wyrmbane" {slay drac, rPois rF+ rC+ AC+3}
rCold + + + (20%) l - skull of Zonguldrok {Reaping Hat+ rN+ Int+4}
rNeg + + + (0%) c - +9 shadow dragon scales of Pathos {Fly rC+ Will+ Stlth+}
rPois + (33%) t - +3 hat of Spite {rC++ rN++ MP-8}
rElec + (33%) (no helmet)
rCorr + (50%) R - +1 cloak of Purpose {Regen+ Int+2 Dex+2}
SInv . j - +3 Mad Mage's Maulers {Infuse+∞ VampMP -Cast}
Will ++++. N - +1 pair of boots {Fly}
Stlth + h - dreamshard necklace {*Dream Acrobat}
HPRegen 1.49/turn O - ring of Qazlal's Hope {rPois rCorr}
MPRegen 0.21/turn i - ring of Circularity {Fly rN+ Will+ Dex+3}
%: no spellcasting, repel missiles, acrobat, infuse magic (29 MP)
@: flying, studying 2 skills
A: horns 2, retaliatory headbutt, robust 1, screaming 1, electricity resistance,
MP-powered wands, ephemeral shield, protean grace
}: 3/15 runes: decaying, silver, gossamer
a: Renounce Religion (0%), Upheaval (0%), Elemental Force (0%), Disaster Area
(0%)
You are on level 4 of the Realm of Zot.
You worship Qazlal.
Qazlal is exalted by your worship.
You have visited 10 branches of the dungeon, and seen 50 of its levels.
You have visited the chambers of the Necropolis 1 time.
You have also visited: Gauntlet, Ice Cave, Wizlab and Desolation.
You have collected 9217 gold pieces.
You have spent 6391 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand Weapons
a - a +5 broad axe of flaming
b - a +6 broad axe of pain
o - the +18 lance "Wyrmbane" (weapon) {slay drac, rPois rF+ rC+ AC+3}
(You took it off Maggie on level 8 of the Dungeon)
rPois: It protects you from poison.
rF+: It protects you from fire.
rC+: It protects you from cold.
AC+3: It affects your AC (+3).
It cannot be enchanted further.
z - a +2 executioner's axe of venom
B - the +8 partisan of Unuamm {speed, rC- Str+4 Stlth+}
(You found it on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
rC-: It makes you vulnerable to cold.
Str+4: It affects your strength (+4).
Stlth+: It makes you more stealthy.
It cannot be enchanted further.
J - the +4 consecrated labrys {holy, Valiant ^Fragile Fly SInv}
(You found it on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
Valiant: It becomes more powerful as more dangerous foes come into view.
^Fragile: It will be destroyed if unequipped.
Fly: It grants you flight.
SInv: It lets you see invisible.
It cannot be enchanted further.
L - the +10 broad axe of Dust {venom, ^Drain rN++ Dex+4}
(You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
^Drain: It drains your maximum health when unequipped.
rN++: It greatly protects you from negative energy.
Dex+4: It affects your dexterity (+4).
It cannot be enchanted further.
Q - the +8 war axe of True Grit {freeze, ^Contam Int+8 Stlth+}
(You found it on level 2 of the Swamp)
^Contam: It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
Int+8: It affects your intelligence (+8).
Stlth+: It makes you more stealthy.
It cannot be enchanted further.
S - a +0 eveningstar of holy wrath
Z - a +5 demon trident of electrocution
Missiles
g - 89 poisoned darts
s - 18 silver javelins
D - 8 javelins
K - 10 boomerangs
U - 9 curare-tipped darts
Armour
c - the +9 shadow dragon scales of Pathos (worn) {Fly rC+ Will+ Stlth+}
(You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
Fly: It grants you flight.
rC+: It protects you from cold.
Will+: It increases your willpower.
Stlth+: It makes you more stealthy.
It cannot be enchanted further.
e - +4 golden dragon scales
j - the +3 Mad Mage's Maulers (worn) {Infuse+∞ VampMP -Cast}
(You found it on level 4 of the Spider Nest)
Infuse+∞: It empowers its wearer's blows with all of their magic.
VampMP: Blows struck in melee replenish the wearer's magic.
-Cast: It prevents spellcasting.
It cannot be enchanted further.
k - a +2 tower shield of positive energy
l - the skull of Zonguldrok (worn) {Reaping Hat+ rN+ Int+4}
(You found it in a wizard's laboratory)
Reaping: When you kill an enemy with your weapon, its spirit may be forced
to
fight for you.
Hat+: You can equip an additional hat (on the skull).
rN+: It protects you from negative energy.
Int+4: It affects your intelligence (+4).
m - a +2 buckler of fire resistance
r - the +0 pair of gloves "Bealigh" {Parrying, ^Contam Fly rF++ Str+4}
(You found it in a gutter gulch)
^Contam: It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
Fly: It grants you flight.
rF++: It greatly protects you from fire.
Str+4: It affects your strength (+4).
It cannot be enchanted further.
t - the +3 hat of Spite (worn) {rC++ rN++ MP-8}
(You took it off Wiglaf on level 1 of the Elven Halls)
rC++: It greatly protects you from cold.
rN++: It greatly protects you from negative energy.
MP-8: It affects your magic capacity (-8).
It cannot be enchanted further.
w - a +3 buckler of poison resistance
x - the orb of Summer {Stardust, rElec rF- Regen+ rCorr}
(You took it off a deep elf annihilator on level 5 of the Vaults)
rElec: It insulates you from electricity.
rF-: It makes you vulnerable to fire.
Regen+: It increases your rate of health regeneration.
rCorr: It protects you from acid and corrosion.
I - the +0 pair of gloves of the Hecatoncheires {Hurl, ^Drain rPois Int+2 Dex+5}
(You found it in a gutter gulch)
^Drain: It drains your maximum health when unequipped.
rPois: It protects you from poison.
Int+2: It affects your intelligence (+2).
Dex+5: It affects your dexterity (+5).
It cannot be enchanted further.
M - the +0 chain mail "Masyib" {^Contam rPois Regen+ Dex+6}
(You took it off a kobold blastminer on level 1 of the Orcish Mines)
^Contam: It causes magical contamination when unequipped.
rPois: It protects you from poison.
Regen+: It increases your rate of health regeneration.
Dex+6: It affects your dexterity (+6).
It cannot be enchanted further.
N - a +1 pair of boots of flying (worn)
R - the +1 cloak of Purpose (worn) {Regen+ Int+2 Dex+2}
(You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
Regen+: It increases your rate of health regeneration.
Int+2: It affects your intelligence (+2).
Dex+2: It affects your dexterity (+2).
It cannot be enchanted further.
V - a +2 cloak of poison resistance
X - the +0 ice dragon scales "Oppohovo" {*Slow rF- rC++ Will+ rCorr Dex+4}
(You found it in an ice cave)
*Slow: It may slow you when you take damage.
rF-: It makes you vulnerable to fire.
rC++: It greatly protects you from cold.
Will+: It increases your willpower.
rCorr: It protects you from acid and corrosion.
Dex+4: It affects your dexterity (+4).
It cannot be enchanted further.
Jewellery
d - a ring of protection from cold
f - a ring of flight
h - the dreamshard necklace (worn) {*Dream Acrobat}
(You bought it in a shop on level 4 of the Vaults)
[amulet of the acrobat]
*Dream: It absorbs a single lethal wound into itself, holding its wearer
just
short of death and releasing dream-creatures to guard them.
Acrobat: It increases your evasion after moving or waiting.
i - the ring of Circularity (worn) {Fly rN+ Will+ Dex+3}
(You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
[ring of willpower]
Fly: It grants you flight.
rN+: It protects you from negative energy.
Will+: It increases your willpower.
Dex+3: It affects your dexterity (+3).
n - an amulet of faith
p - the ring of Ceseatid {rPois Dex+6}
(You took it off a deep elf master archer on level 3 of the Elven Halls)
[ring of dexterity]
rPois: It protects you from poison.
Dex+6: It affects your dexterity (+6).
q - the amulet "Ikhun" {Wildshape rC+}
(You took it off an imperial myrmidon in the Desolation of Salt)
[amulet of wildshape]
Wildshape: It improves your skill with shapeshifting (+5).
rC+: It protects you from cold.
u - a +4 ring of slaying
v - a ring of willpower
y - an amulet of reflection
A - an amulet of regeneration
C - the ring of Xyima {rCorr AC+4 Int+4 Dex+4}
(You took it off a minotaur in a Gauntlet)
[ring of protection]
rCorr: It protects you from acid and corrosion.
AC+4: It affects your AC (+4).
Int+4: It affects your intelligence (+4).
Dex+4: It affects your dexterity (+4).
E - a ring of poison resistance
F - a ring of resist corrosion
G - the ring "Bihottam" {rN++ Dex+6}
(You found it in the Desolation of Salt)
[ring of dexterity]
rN++: It greatly protects you from negative energy.
Dex+6: It affects your dexterity (+6).
H - a +6 ring of dexterity
O - the ring of Qazlal's Hope (worn) {rPois rCorr}
(You found it in a gutter gulch)
[ring of poison resistance]
rPois: It protects you from poison.
rCorr: It protects you from acid and corrosion.
P - a ring of willpower
T - a ring of see invisible
W - the ring "Rearono" {rPois Int+6}
(You found it on level 2 of the Depths)
[ring of intelligence]
rPois: It protects you from poison.
Int+6: It affects your intelligence (+6).
Y - an amulet of the acrobat
Wands
e - a wand of charming (55)
b - a wand of quicksilver (29)
a - a wand of flame (145)
f - a wand of mindburst (41)
c - a wand of warping (42)
p - a wand of polymorph (18)
d - a wand of digging (11)
Scrolls
I - 7 scrolls of immolation
p - 7 scrolls of poison
N - 11 scrolls of noise
g - 8 scrolls of fog
r - 14 scrolls of revelation
f - 10 scrolls of fear
V - 12 scrolls of vulnerability
S - 3 scrolls of silence
x - 7 scrolls of amnesia
T - 3 scrolls of torment
b - a scroll of blinking
w - 11 scrolls of enchant weapon
t - 9 scrolls of teleportation
s - 5 scrolls of butterflies
W - a scroll of brand weapon
Potions
C - 6 potions of cancellation
h - 5 potions of haste
b - 10 potions of brilliance
A - 8 potions of attraction
M - 7 potions of mutation
c - 20 potions of curing
L - 9 potions of lignification
a - 6 potions of ambrosia
i - 5 potions of invisibility
e - 6 potions of enlightenment
B - 5 potions of berserk rage
r - 6 potions of resistance
w - 9 potions of heal wounds
m - a potion of might
Miscellaneous
g - a +2 lightning rod (4/4)
h - a +0 phial of floods (quivered)
i - a +4 box of beasts
k - a +0 tin of tremorstones (2/2)
j - a +1 phantom mirror
Skills:
+ Level 26.6 Fighting
- Level 18.0(20.4) Axes
- Level 16.5(19.8) Polearms
- Level 14.3 Throwing
- Level 22.1 Armour
+ Level 20.6 Dodging
- Level 21.9 Shields
+ Level 22.0 Invocations
- Level 13.2 Evocations
You have 26 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.
Your spell library contains the following spells:
Spells Type Power Damage Failure Level
Apportation Tloc 0% N/A 54% 1
Freeze Ice 0% 1d3 54% 1
Kinetic Grapnel Frge 0% 1d4 54% 1
Kiss of Death Conj/Necr 0% 2d5 54% 1
Magic Dart Conj 0% 1d3 54% 1
Poisonous Vapours Alch/Air 0% 1d1 54% 1
Sandblast Erth 0% 2d4 54% 1
Soul Splinter Necr 0% N/A 54% 1
Summon Small Mammal Summ 0% N/A 54% 1
Jinxbite Hex 0% 2d2 69% 2
Momentum Strike Conj/Tloc 0% 3d8 69% 2
Scorch Fire 0% 2d5 69% 2
Searing Ray Conj 0% 2d4 69% 2
Call Canine Familiar Summ 0% N/A 89% 3
Frozen Ramparts Ice 0% 1d1 89% 3
Fugue of the Fallen Necr 0% N/A 89% 3
Gloom Hex/Necr 0% N/A 89% 3
Hailstorm Conj/Ice 0% 3d5 89% 3
Inner Flame Hex/Fire 0% N/A 89% 3
Launch Clockwork Bee Frge 0% N/A 89% 3
Maxwell's Portable Pile Tloc 0% (3-9)d2 89% 3
Mephitic Cloud Conj/Alch/Air 0% N/A 89% 3
Ozocubu's Armour Ice 0% N/A 89% 3
Passwall Erth 0% N/A 89% 3
Stone Arrow Conj/Erth 0% 3d7 89% 3
Summon Ice Beast Ice/Summ 0% N/A 89% 3
Swiftness Air 0% N/A 89% 3
Volatile Blastmotes Fire/Tloc 0% 2d10 89% 3
Anguish Hex/Necr 0% N/A 100% 4
Animate Dead Necr 0% N/A 100% 4
Brom's Barrelling Bould Conj/Erth 0% 2d4 100% 4
Dimensional Bullseye Hex/Tloc 0% N/A 100% 4
Dispel Undead Necr 0% 3d6 100% 4
Flame Wave Conj/Fire 0% 2d4 100% 4
Forge Blazeheart Golem Fire/Frge 0% N/A 100% 4
Fulminant Prism Conj/Alch 0% 3d5 100% 4
Ignite Poison Fire/Alch 0% N/A 100% 4
Iskenderun's Battlesphe Conj/Frge 0% 2d7 100% 4
Iskenderun's Mystic Bla Conj/Tloc 0% 2d3 (+2d1 100% 4
Martyr's Knell Necr/Summ 0% N/A 100% 4
Olgreb's Toxic Radiance Alch 0% N/A 100% 4
Passage of Golubria Tloc 0% N/A 100% 4
Rending Blade Conj/Frge 0% 2d6 100% 4
Sticky Flame Fire/Alch 0% 2d4 100% 4
Summon Seismosaurus Egg Summ/Erth 0% N/A 100% 4
Vhi's Electric Charge Tloc/Air 0% N/A 100% 4
Alistair's Walking Alem Alch/Frge 0% N/A 100% 5
Detonation Catalyst Fire/Alch 0% 2d3 100% 5
Freezing Cloud Conj/Ice/Air 0% 6-21 100% 5
Hoarfrost Cannonade Ice/Frge 0% 3d6/3d12 100% 5
Irradiate Conj/Alch 0% 3d11 100% 5
Metabolic Englaciation Hex/Ice 0% N/A 100% 5
Nazja's Percussive Temp Frge 0% 4d4 100% 5
Summon Forest Summ/Tloc 0% N/A 100% 5
Summon Mana Viper Hex/Summ 0% N/A 100% 5
Bombard Conj/Erth 0% 9d1 100% 6
Conjure Ball Lightning Conj/Air 0% 3x3d6 100% 6
Death Channel Necr 0% N/A 100% 6
Dispersal Tloc 0% N/A 100% 6
Forge Monarch Bomb Fire/Frge 0% 4d5 100% 6
Forge Phalanx Beetle Frge 0% N/A 100% 6
Fortress Blast Frge 0% 6d25 100% 6
Gell's Gavotte Tloc 0% 2d(11-16) 100% 6
Permafrost Eruption Ice/Erth 0% 2x4d1 100% 6
Starburst Conj/Fire 0% 6d3 100% 6
Summon Cactus Giant Summ 0% N/A 100% 6
Haunt Necr/Summ 0% N/A 100% 7
Hellfire Mortar Fire/Erth/Frge 0% 4d5 100% 7
Magnavolt Erth/Air 0% 4d9 100% 7
Malign Gateway Summ/Tloc 0% N/A 100% 7
Manifold Assault Tloc 0% N/A 100% 7
Spellspark Servitor Conj/Frge 0% N/A 100% 7
Splinterfrost Shell Ice/Frge 0% 6d4 100% 7
Summon Hydra Summ 0% N/A 100% 7
Discord Hex 0% N/A 100% 8
Fulsome Fusillade Conj/Alch 0% (3-5)d5 100% 8
Infestation Necr 0% N/A 100% 8
Maxwell's Capacitive Co Air 0% ∞ 100% 8
Summon Horrible Things Summ 0% N/A 100% 8
Chain Lightning Conj/Air 0% N/A 100% 9
Fire Storm Conj/Fire 0% 5d1 100% 9
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (15/15) Temple (0/1) D:6 Lair (5/5) D:11
Swamp (4/4) Lair:3 Spider (4/4) Lair:3 Slime (0/5) Lair:5
Orc (2/2) D:12 Elf (3/3) Orc:2 Vaults (5/5) D:13
Crypt (3/3) Vaults:2 Tomb (0/3) Crypt:3 Depths (4/4) D:15
Zot (5/5) Depths:4 IceCv (visited) WizLab (visited)
Desolation (visited) Gauntlet (visited) Gulch (visited)
The Realm of Zot is guarded by orbs of entropy.
Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Jiyva
Shops:
D:7 [ Orc:1 [
Finally beat vine stalker. Still did not have any fun with the race. It simply feels the same to play as a melee brute who ends up having good regen, but feels very, very dependant on awesome armor or shield drops in order to not feel intensely squishy and frail. I really don't think forcing people to play a melee race with low HP is that fun, and even if innate spirit guardian is nice, it just doesn't feel that impactful. Finagling a way to make this race work did not feel fulfilling, rather like I was being forced to play in a specific way with no way to break free from the constraints of the race. I thought crawl was about taking what comes to you, not waiting for a very specific build like is required for this race.
Usk is fun I guess, if not just an "I win" button that feels a bit vestigial and unrewarding. I literally just clicked on Tiamat and killed her. Just tab tab tab and get rewarded by all the enemies falling dead. Yaaaaay...I guess? Not a lot of interesting decisions to be made with this race. Probably the least memorable and interesting encounter with Tiamat that I have had yet. (The best being using Yred to make her my ally.)
Any race that is just more squishy and has bad defenses as a way to make gameplay more challenging is just repetitive and duplicative design in my opinion. It would be fine if there were one or two squishy characters with no defenses but there are far too many in the game right now and "no defenses" is just an easy, slapdash way to devs to make a race more challenging. I really don't see much difference between this race and the old "human with different aptitudes races. The bite is mechanically interesting, but gameplay wise it ends up feeling like a powerful antimagic weapon with a speed brand. Not exactly the most exciting thing in the world or providing interesting gameplay decisions or unique gameplay
Vinestalker, Oni, Troll, Octopode, Spriggan, deep elf, all feel too similar in gameplay due to the most important gameplay mechanic between the 5 of them being how squishy and easy to kill they are. Tengu is the only one I like because the innate acrobat is great for any build and teaches players to run away from combats. A very well designed race that actually feels worth the lack of HP rather than just being an outright hinderance and handicap.
I suspect I will feel the same way about Felid and Mummy as it literally just seems like "Play the game without all the fun parts, as if a masochist had created it."
Anyway, Mummy, Kobold, Human, Felid to go to greaterplayer.
u/Primary-Dentist7055 — 4 days ago
▲ 17 r/dcss
This isn't an attack, I am asking for enlightenment. I'm someone who has gotten a lot of enjoyment from games like Qud, Brogue, and CDDA. I want DCSS to pull me in. From someone with maybe 2 hours in the game, can you please tell me if I am totally wrong about what I have observed so far?
Early game combat is relatively repetitive. Most of the enemies have very little difference in behavior or tactics. I compare this to brogue, where nearly every enemy has a different movement pattern, attack style, or gimmick. If this were chess, Brogue makes each monster feel like a different chess piece. DCSS feels very sameish. It comes off as false variety. My tactics don't change at all between most of the monsters I have ran into.
Then, when I look at Qud, I see a massive sandbox of possibilities around the mutation system, item randomization, enemy variety, factions, etc. Again I don't see this in DCSS. I haven't yet dug fully into the gods system, but even the species system feels a little underwhelming compared to how Qud lets you manage limbs and whatnot.
I bring up these other games because they are often compared in the same breath, and many people say that DCSS has depth in ways that outclass both of these games.
I know this will make some people mad, that's not my intention, but what am I missing? What is the unique thing that DCSS brings to the table that makes you play for hundreds of hours? What point should I try to make it to in the game before I decide it just isn't a game for me? Did you have to play for a while before the game "clicked"? I love reading the reviews from people with hundreds of hours, but every time I try the game I bounce off.
u/Most-Sweet4036 — 13 days ago
▲ 2 r/dcss
For a 3 rune run, should I switch to the Consecrated labrys or stick with the Randart Broad Axe?
The last image is spare ring with rElec if I choose to switch from the Broad Axe
u/The-exploiter — 15 hours ago
▲ 10 r/dcss
My money is on tower shield. When I find one before lair I become an unhittable killing machine and that continues all the way through zot if you keep enchanting it.
Could also be buckler because of the lack of need to invest skill points and the insane upside of using it.
Honorable mention to giant rock and boomerangs.
u/Primary-Dentist7055 — 8 days ago
▲ 8 r/dcss
Do kills by Trog's Brothers In Arms summons give you the normal amount of XP?
I'm curious whether there's an XP tradeoff here.
u/A_California_roll — 1 day ago
▲ 7 r/dcss
Cornered in Swamp (Need Guidance)
I tried to be cheesy and drag an alligator up the stairs to finish off, however, it dragged me instead. I tried to fight, using HS just to have my health melted away. I tried using scrolls of fear then making a run for the stairs, but they just won't budge.
I've already used SL, and I don't have blink identified yet.
Any tips on how to potentially survive this, or is me and my enchanted granite talisman gonna be on a YASD ;-;
Edit: here's my char dump, I couldn't figure out how to find a link for it offline:
u/c4a66 — 6 days ago
▲ 0 r/dcss
Why is everyone playing Atheist? Did I miss a challenge or something?
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u/Primary-Dentist7055 — 4 days ago