r/classical_circlejerk

It’s been my observation that most of the conversations had about who are the best composers of all time, or who is the greatest to ever live almost always consist of the same small group of classical composers from 1700-1900.

My question is:

Is there ever a time or universe where composers like John Williams and Hans Zimmer can be considered as one of the best of all time?

I’m fully aware that this is a classical music community and the two composers I named have bodies of work that are very different from say Bach or Mozart. Comparing 2 hour operas or hour long serenades to movie scores broken down into 5 minute segments may not ever be fair.
With that being said I feel there is a solid argument that the music of Williams, Zimmer, and other modern composers has entertained and influenced the world at a similar rate.

So I ask again. Can these modern composers ever be considered as one of the greatest of all time?

because I get along with them so well.

How do I find one? Where to go, where to hang out?

I'm female, over 30 and make music just for fun myself.

Any ideas?

Okay Glass has quite a few good works but way more garbage ones than Reich./uj

All they do is sit in a room with harpsichord and play the well t**pered Klavier for 4 hours. And then they masterbate to Handel symphonies while crying over not knowing enough music theory to understand their idiotic composers.

Go outside! Touch grass! Feel the beautiful melody of my femboy Chopin!

/uj because I do and I just wonder whether it’s common behaviour.

Classical music and jazz actually force the auditory cortex to burn calories parsing complex harmonic structures. Now we just consume barbaric, low-resolution audio slop engineered to bypass the prefrontal cortex and directly hammer the primitive brainstem for cheap dopamine.

Imagine if society actually ran on classical music or jazz? Processing those complex harmonic structures forces the human hardware to optimise for delayed gratification and higher-order logic.

We'd probably be a hyper-advanced civilisation built on structured rationality simply because the average prefrontal cortex would actually be functional. Instead, we feed the collective monkey brain repetitive, low-resolution acoustic slop, so naturally our macro behaviour defaults to instant gratification and systemic breakdown.

It’s literal biological cause and effect: garbage auditory inputs generate a garbage reality.

You cant post in this subreddit without ending up in classical music jerk😂 and I type this fully expecting to end up there, as does every post here tbh