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Aside from the buggy Landing Gear Dataref, I compiled all available granular FDR and ADSB data and used X-Plane's FDR feature.

u/andrew17798 — 13 days ago

China is trying to cover up about the cause

New details from the investigation into the 2022 China Eastern Boeing 737 crash suggest a desperate 18-second struggle may have taken place inside the cockpit moments before the aircraft slammed into a mountainside, killing all 132 people onboard.

According to Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera, cockpit recordings allegedly captured screams, rapid breathing and sounds resembling an argument or physical fight as one person appeared to force the aircraft downward while another tried pulling it back up.

Investigators reportedly found both engines had been shut down before the jet entered its catastrophic nosedive.

Former NTSB investigator Jeff Guzzetti said the flight data showed the controls moving “back and forth, back and forth, as if someone is trying to counter the initial movement,” adding: “It sure has the earmarks of a struggle in the cockpit.”

Aviation expert John Cox also said the Boeing 737’s fuel levers “lock into place,” making accidental shutdown highly unlikely.

The aircraft briefly appeared to recover before plunging into a mountain at high speed, leaving a massive crater and igniting a forest fire below.

u/Disastrous_Agent_965 — 6 days ago
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30 years ago today, on Saturday, May 11, 1996, ValuJet Flight 592 crashed into a swamp in the Florida Everglades just nine minutes after taking off from Miami International Airport. All 110 people on board were killed. More details in comments.

u/nogoodnamesleft426 — 3 days ago

I don’t know whether if these questions have already been asked here before, but what plane crashes are you surprised ACI still hasn’t covered yet? What title would you give to an episode covering one of those particular plane crashes and, according to you, what are the chances we get to eventually see an ACI episode on one of those particular plane crashes?

Afriqiyah Airways 771, Yemenia 626, Armavia 967, Gulf Air 072, Pakistan International Airlines 8303, Pinnacle Airlines 3701… These are just 6 of the multiple plane crashes I’m surprised ACI still hasn’t covered yet. And to be honest with you all, the fact that some major airline accidents (such as Saudia 163 in S24, Air Algérie 6289, Airblue 202 and Korean Air Cargo 6316 in S26) were covered this late in the show (after 20+ seasons) is also kinda surprising to me. I feel like accidents and crashes such as Saudia 163 and Airblue 202 should’ve been covered in earlier ACI seasons.

That being said, I came up with some potential titles for episodes covering those 6 crashes:
-Afriqiyah Airways 771 (Descent into Disaster),
-Yemenia 626 (The Moroni Approach),
-Armavia 967 (Into the Black Sea),
-Gulf Air 072 (Gulf of Disaster),
-Pakistan International Airlines 8303 (A Deadly Oversight),
Pinnacle Airlines 3701 (Having Fun)/(Having Fun at 41000FT).

As for the chances of seeing ACI covering one of these crashes, only time will tell. I do hope that S27 will cover at least one of these crashes. I particularly hope to see ACI cover Afriqiyah Airways 771, Gulf Air 072 and Pinnacle Airlines 3701 since I believe these crashes can make a great episode for a future season.

Note: I just took those 6 plane crashes as an example. You can of course choose other plane crashes that have surprisingly not been covered by ACI yet.

u/ilovemariogameslol — 12 days ago

Plane crashes, hits building and leaves three dead in Belo Horizonte, Brasil.

A single-engine, small plane crashed and hit a residential building on Rua Ilacir Pereira Lima, in the Silveira neighborhood, in the Northeast Region of Belo Horizonte. Three people died and two were injured. The aircraft took off from Pampulha Airport, also in the capital of Minas Gerais, at 12:16 p.m., and crashed at 12:19 p.m.

Five occupants were in the aircraft at the time of the accident, and the pilot and a passenger died still on the spot; the other three occupants were sent in serious condition to the João XXIII Hospital, but one of them died hours later.

No one who was in the building was hit. All residents were removed from the building by the Fire Department shortly before 2pm.

Link: https://g1.globo.com/mg/minas-gerais/noticia/2026/05/04/aviao-cai-e-bate-em-predio-em-belo-horizonte.ghtml

u/bemonho — 10 days ago

Hot take on new ACI (hate me for that)

Has anybody ever noticed how ACI went from literal masterpieces that can be rewatched a hundred times without getting boring or annoying to the episodes that are hard to even watch till the end.

Throughout ACI's 20+ year history the style of the episode has changed multiple times. The last "change", in my opinion, happened around S14-S15 and it completely ruined the show. The feeling of a high-quality, cinematic documentary just dissapeared. And I'm not talking just about the shortening the crash segment over and over again, I'm talking about the changing of the most important thing – the atmosphere. The current episodes are just "*5-7 minutes of pilots interacting with eachother*, *sudden crash* and 35 minutes of the boringest investigation you could imagine". To compare, we have the episodes where the long investigation segment was actually well-made and rewatchable (GOL 1907, SAA 295, AF447). Even if one of the new episode will consist of the story part only (like they did with balkan 13) ot would still absolutely suck. The whole cinematic atmosphere of the show is gone and it makes most of the new episodes COMPLETELY UNREWATCHABLE and some even UNWATCHABLE.

For example, we have an S24 episode covering Saudia flight 163. In my opinion, it's one of the most weird and interesting plane crash stories. But what did we get in the episode: 5 minutes of pilots interacting with eachother, 5 minutes of telling about the emergency landing and how the plane just completely burned. Then – just yapping about how did the fire start. Even the short crash segment felt soulless. Another example is the remake of the famous Uberlingen mid-air collision that i don't even wanna talk about because of how awful the episode was.

On the other hand we have Bristow 56C – a completely unknown to most of the humanity random helicopter crash. But ACI managed to make an episode that would actually take my breath away and literally teleport me into the situation. When i was watching it the first time i literally felt like i was with those guys surviving in the sea on a ripped raft. And the investigation segment (which was actually long enough) is also pretty good to rewatch multiple times.

And i can't talk about the soulfulness of old ACI without bringing KAL801 or S2 Uberlingen. These episodes literally made me burst into tears.

So what can I say in the conclusion? I will get downvoted heavily, but you cannot change my mind. This is the sad reality and right now we are witnessing the downfall of once the greatest National Geographic documentary of all time.

(i literally almost cried writing this because of how many great memories of mine are connected to this show and how it all is just getting ruined by the greed of those in who's hands the show is now)

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u/imaxiieetrustme — 6 days ago

I thought MU5375’s FDR ceased recording 23 seconds after the pilot shut down the engines?

This animation was made shortly after the NTSB report was revealed. The report shows that the FDR data ends 23 seconds after the start of the nosedive and when the plane was still above 20,000 feet high in the air.

This animation somehow seems to show what exactly happens to the plane after 23 seconds.

Video source: https://x.com/Jienafo/status/2050300555294298530

u/TranceForLife1996 — 9 days ago

https://preview.redd.it/d383po3o64zg1.png?width=490&format=png&auto=webp&s=9d434675fba08c266f048e3890a0828e50a07ecd

Ep1 : Bek Air 2100 (1st hint on the discord server // Snowy Teaser)

Ep2 : Gulf Air 072 (2nd hint on the discord server)

Ep3 : Yemenia 626

Ep4 : China Eastern Airlines 5375 (Confirmed as Ep4)

Ep5 : Swissair 111 [Remake]

Ep6 : Pinnacle Airlines 3701

Ep7 : Airwork 23 (3rd hint on the discord server)

Ep8 : Air Caraïbes 1501

Ep9 : Pakistan International Airlines 8303

Ep10 : American Eagle 5342 {2025 Potomac River mid-air collision}

//Bonus Ep Ideas if we get one//

Ep11 : Inex-Adria Aviopromet 1308 ; Air Liberté 8807 {2000 Charles de Gaulle runway collision} ; Avianca 011

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u/L0xius_0fx — 11 days ago
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G'day.

Colombian authorities only publish reports from 1995 and further, so I asked them for some more reports from plane crashes in the past:

I had uploaded these: https://www.reddit.com/r/aircrashinvestigation/comments/1rt0ngo/report_of_colombian_plane_crashes/

And I put the ones I've just got in the same Drive folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1uuggyGIgkGRxIz7Tl3Uupsse__mqJoPu?usp=sharing

The new ones are:

Avianca Flight 4, (DC-4 HK-730) near Cartagena, on January 14th, 1966

https://aviation-safety.net/asndb/332453

Aerocondor flight 139, L-188A (HK-777) crash at the Cerro El Cable in Bogotá, August 17th, 1973

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/330108

Aerolíneas TAO flight 514 (Vickers Viscount HK-1058) on June 8th, 1974, crash near Cúcuta

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/329890

On January 23rd, 1985, there were two events barely 20 minutes one after the other...

AIRES flight 584, (EMB-110 HK-2638) near Buga

https://aviation-safety.net/asndb/type/E110

ACES flight 52 (DHC-6 HK-1910) near Salgar.

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/327272

Avianca flight 410, (B727 HK-1716) near Cúcuta, March 17th, 1988, which is in the ICAO Aircraft Accident Digests, but this one is the original.

https://aviation-safety.net/asndb/326572

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u/Ok_Permit9535 — 11 days ago

In the air crash community captain Van Zanten is seen as an evil villain instead of someone who made a huge mistake(s).

I believe he was in a hurry to get back home due to regulations meaning he could lose his licence for flying too long not to mention the major cost and inconvenience of KLM rebooking flights and hotels. I think stress was a huge part of the accident as well.

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u/Ok_Consideration6179 — 9 days ago

From: my memory, a charter civilian airliner jet crashed in the east coast in the summer (I think). and most of the passengers wear military members. it was a wide body jet and I remember a woman opened her home to help the survivors after it crashed in her neighborhood. That’s all I can remember from that episode and I couldn’t find it

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u/AccomplishedDebt5080 — 12 days ago