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This place is managed like sh*t

I'll never understand how this place can be managed so ass backwards. Preload is starting at 5:30am every single day, sometimes even 5:40. Literally the latest they can start us for our 3.5, and they'll try to push any suckers out early. Pushing 25-30k packages per day outbound, and we're severely understaffed because they won't hire anyone. Rush everyone and everything to the point of it being unsafe, and there's almost nothing we can do about it. Dozens of packages being missed every day because we have to push everything to the very last minute. And when something breaks or a belt shuts down, everyone runs around like a headless chicken because they leave themselves 0 time to correct when it happens.​

I drive an irreg train and they didn't even send me out to pickup/drop-off anything until 8:30, and I'm the only one doing it on Saturdays. I had to stay until after 10 to clean everything up.

So beyond fed up with this place and the people who run this building. Nothing will ever change because they have to pinch every penny and will never start us earlier. And to top it all off the new payroll sucks at their job so I don't even get paid correctly. I'm still waiting to be paid out for my unused vacation ​from 2025 even though I asked for it 2 months ago.

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u/Dusk_2_Dawn — 4 hours ago
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I like working here

I know that’s controversial here. I love the benefits, I love the union protection, the pension contributions, the zero medical and my wage. Yeah, sure, management is a bunch of turd cutters but I’ve been in the wild, it sucks just as bad. And that’s coming from a steward. I also completely understand if you hate this place lol.

Be safe brothers and sisters.

u/whiggitywhack2088 — 3 hours ago
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I don't know much, but I do know one thing, you need a union...

u/FareonMoist — 23 hours ago
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Thoughts of a 19 year employee. Started at 17 in 2007.

Throwaway account, for obvious reasons.

All they did was move the goal post to make it easier to hit numbers.

In my area all NDA went to EOD commit times of 1700, business and air back in February. Funny part was routes in extended areas got screwed by it since their all their commits except EAMs were due by EOD 2359 before and after now they have 10 air commits that ORION doesn’t list until the preprogrammed commit time In the DIAD, until an hour before they’re due

Their logic is if there’s essentially no air trace then there should be 0 late air ever and routes are as close to peak season with a drastically different “AM” air commit than ever in company history outside of peak season.

And with the drop in Amazon volume, routes are getting bigger because they’re pressured to cut down and encourage layoffs, even with the buyouts. Problem is the center I’m in has grown too fast in the last 10 years, both residential by about 30% overall. The things the dispatch has become is essentially the same plan every week when there’s no severe weather.

Monday-dogshit light, low stops, low route level, high mileage
Tuesday and Friday-barely more than Monday
Wednesday and Thursday-most “normal” days of the week with extra routes with the proper swing routes that were normally in on Tuesday THROUGH Friday.

Certain EAMs that are 5 minutes away from the building and used to be 0800 commit times have been selectively moved back to 1400. So our “EAM” service has split into 2 types to maximize and justify priority packages. One, if in town options are 0800/0930; second is 1400.

At this point their logic also is that drivers should be delivering more stops consistently with the extremely lax commit times. That’s why they want documentation on everything. Normally, You have to demonstrate a pattern of continuous service issues related to the same thing; i.e documented for last air through progressive discipline; documented talk with, warning letter, suspension, then fired.

But if you document them on talk withs and warning letters on multiple issues; simple as not wearing socks with with shorts, a clear violation of the professional dress code that every employee signs when getting hired as a driver/insider, late air as explained above, and not knowing depth of knowledge questions after multiple reviews with management specifically, can be a bad case against you.

This example is a list of the 3 things management “cares” about in order: 1. Safety, 2. Service, and 3. Production With the cited infractions above, management can make a case that the driver is a “delinquent employee” due to the established track record of appearance and late air issues directly attached to #2 Service and the lack of DOK to #1 Safety. “If the employee doesn’t care about Safety or Service, why should we have them work for the United Parcel SERVICE.” Because that’s all we do. We don’t make or sell anything. We only provide a service of moving customers packages from A to B.

I can honestly say after almost 19 years of service, 15 being in management, I used to love my job but I haven’t believed in the company since Covid started. If retirement is 62 now then by the time I could actually retire it’ll at least be bumped up to 65; the pay and benefits are good, but I don’t want to spend the next 30 years hating the month of December and Christmas.

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u/Few_Inflation_3765 — 11 hours ago
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Can we please get rid of delivery windows

they’re always upset with me that “it’s late” I always want to say there is a premium service you know

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u/DueError6413 — 18 hours ago
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Buckle Up Current Teamsters of this Generation. Your career is being targeted.

Union had some pushback as well. The spokesman of the company they can work without fatigue or breaks around the clock all day. Making huge jumps in profit.

u/Infamous_State_4678 — 14 hours ago
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Are we allowed to move these lights?

I had this old man electrician guy crash out on me for moving them, but these lights seem like they’re literally designed to swiveled, now I’m asking you people of reddit, if that guy was full of bull or he’s actually right, thank you.

u/Express-Error-2585 — 14 hours ago
▲ 25 r/UPSers

Methods

Are there “official” methods? Or does it simply change whenever they want? I got wrote up for taking my Diad to the back with me but I was literally trained that way and trying to break a habit is so dang hard.

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u/Common-Guava34 — 1 day ago
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FedEx 🙃

This is exactly why I have issues with FedEx! I had to suddenly brake with my kids in the car, going from 30 to 0, all because a FedEx driver swerved into my lane and stopped right in front of me. He seemed completely unfazed by it, just trying to inch closer to a driveway. It’s moments like these that make me grateful my husband is with UPS.

u/AdRelevant5202 — 22 hours ago
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Route issues

Ok I need some union/contract knowledge help here. I'm a bid driver for 9 years, have had my route for 7 years. I'm the A route in my loop. Today for the first time, they eliminated my route..put ad cuts on the other routes in the loop and added more than 50% of another drivers route onto the largest chunk of mine. And then sent me home saying they had no work.

According to the contract they cant do that. Or I might be wrong. I dont know. The contract says that if a route is temporarily eliminated 1. They have to notify me 90 minutes before my start time do I can decide if I want to be a utility driver or bump someone in my loop based on seniority. Which they did not do. 2. The contract says I can bump the lower seniority driver in my loop, which in this case, was the one that was following his 50%.

I was told by my shop steward...who, plot twist, is ALSO the lower seniority driver following his 50% in my loop, about this contract issue and he told me I couldn't bump a bid driver for over 50% of their route. Then management said the same and they said no utility driver work today due to volume and they said i couldn't grieve any of this.

I dont believe any of them when it specifically says in the contract that a temporary elimination of route goes seniority based not necessarily who has the 50% change.

Am I missing sonething?

u/Helly312 — 1 day ago
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Bid Sheets

Question, does a FT driver bid supersede a cover driver bid? I signed both but would obviously want the FT consideration over the Cover driver.

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u/Popular_Lake3371 — 6 hours ago
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If you do this to an empty cage, I hope you get a speeding ticket on your way home

u/Jordan_lipidzz — 1 day ago
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Seat cushion upgrade

Anyone use a seat cushion add on that may help with back pain? I seen a driver at our building use one and thought maybe I’d ask this group and see if there’s something that has help you guys be more comfortable. I’ve been dealing with a sore mid back for like 8 months, chiropractor says I have a misaligned rib head but going to him didn’t seem to fix it other than instant but brief relief.

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u/Effective-Reply5655 — 15 hours ago