Honestly what I learned from Pitt twt is while yes Santos is not someone that is absolved of any mistake she makes or any mean comment she makes like assuming Langdon’s gonna relapse because I’m sorry that was icky to me at least when she said that, however ya’ll hate her because she doesn’t come across as the “likeable woman” sometimes.

ya’ll just hate her because she doesn’t hide her mental health struggles behind a more “likeable” personality as a woman specifically.

Maybe this has been discussed before but if she had the same mental health issues but hid it behind a big old smile more people would like her.

Idk why some of ya’ll don’t get that not every person can hide it well behind a charming smile. Sometimes they hide it behind sarcastic humor and maybe verbally pushing the boundaries a little bit

I’m hearing a lot about the theory that Robby is going to adopt BJD. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn’t.

What I’d like to point out is that the reason he goes into the room to care for her isn’t necessarily because he wants to trauma dump, it’s because she’s his last patient.

Right before he leaves, he picks up his coffee cup, looks around the ED, and *doesn’t recognize any of the patients*.

BJD is the last loose end he needs to tie up before he can leave. He can’t stand not knowing her next step in care. He can’t leave until she does.

He lives for his patients. He lives for the Pitt.

For me, after the travesty that was season two, I'd like to see Robby realize how deeply he's destroyed Mohan's self-confidence and her dreams, and for him to try to make it up to her. I'd like to see that scene that was deleted from season 1, where Abbot defends Mohan against Robby's judgments, and validates her (both to Robby and to the audience). I want to see some real payoff for her being used to mirror Robby, and I want to find a way to forgive Robby myself - and he needs to acknowledge the damage he's done and repair it.

Thoughts on “the realities of staffing at a hospital” where “people don’t stay forever,” - as executive producer John Wells said in relation to Supriya Ganesh’s departure… but Ogilvie was supposed to quit, and is only there for four weeks (right?) but became a fan favorite and the story changed. I guess it just feels like the same logic isn’t applied. Nothing major, and I like Ogilvie the character, and the actor seems thoughtful and cool. Just… an abundance of white men with secure positions, no hate, unlike other members of the ensemble (that’s “not an ensemble.”)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThePittTVShow/s/6TOLM8nujy

just something i've been thinking about on a s2 re-watch. Al-Hashimi isn't introduced in episode 1 as just "replacement daytime attending"—Robby specifically says "she's covering as chief." Then there's all the details about her patient passports, her campaign to stop calling it "the Pitt," the way she's generally lockstep with Gloria on things like patient satisfaction and hospital billing. She makes the R2 repeating comment to Santos which is a bit weird if she's not expecting to be there for more than a few months. I don't think she's naive enough to think it's worth it to make all of those major changes day one of her new job unless she had some idea that she might be in the running to take over long-term

obviously the seizure problem might throw all of that out the window, but I do wonder why else they would introduce her as a huge change-maker if she's meant to leave at the end of Robby's sabbatical and/or downgrade to a regular attending

If the writers actually knew how to write FRIENDSHIP angst (because santos is a lesbian thanks) santos and Langdon would make really good unconventional friends.

I can’t be the only one that sees similarities in them

Edit: didn’t know the writers had so many shooters, lmfao

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you know what it is…

personally I’m transfixed by this Keegan Michael-Key and his wife thing….anyone?

I’m not really sure how to word my posts anymore because people seem to have issues either way with me

I wanted to list two different opinions in the same post because I didn’t feel like making two separate posts because they are honestly short worded opinions:

My first opinion is I don’t understand Langdon glazers and santos glazers because both have plenty of flaws. And based off of what I’ve seen I don’t understand why some groups baby each individual?

My second opinion is that Langdon’s addiction recovery should have been about Langdon alone. I honestly did not understand the story choice of making it more about how Robby reacts to him coming back. I have not been in that situation before but I don’t think your recovery would be about another person?-

I stumbled upon this video and I think a lot of folks here will appreciate it. Between seasons (when I found the show & the subs) in a discussion I brought up that Gloria is not, in fact, the villain of season 1 and there is NO villain other then the American healthcare system, so I do enjoy hearing a medical professional agree with me and reiterating my points that Gloria is just doing her job and that if she wasn't in that position someone would be. It's a systemic issue not an individual one. (Though honestly I do think that that argument, even without this video, would be better received here then it was in the main sub)

>She shouldn't be an antagonistic force or an annoyance, she should be an ally. After all, she is a physician by trade. She is an executive, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she’s on the board of directors. She’s at the mercy of the board’s budget and cannot directly control it, but she has to play the bad guy and communicate much of it to the doctors.

>And as we know from watching the show, guys like Robby love to shoot the messenger.

>At the same time, she has to report to the board and explain every time that the hospital goes over budget, after which she’s probably yelled at for not cutting expenses enough.

I also loved that she brought up Tracy Morris (the for-profit exec in season one that was there for like 30 seconds). "Hear me when I say this, Gloria might at times be a cartoon, but this character is literally not a character." Because we all know that most healthcare execs are definitely women, especially mustache twirling evil women like her who try to bribe doctors within minutes of meeting them. 🙄

>Well previously, I theorized that the CMO of the hospital was written to be female because she’s supposed to be unthreatening and incompetent. THIS, is like the opposite archetype of female character. The evil, cold, untrustworthy bitch.

>She’s not incompetent, she’s good at what she does, and what she does is be a bitch.

>Almost like the Iron Lady trope, except that she’s always the antagonist, she’s purposely hateable, and she can spare just enough emotion to smirk at you. And these characters are female because women are just great at being snakes. It’s a trope that fits the aims of this character…pretty well. Still the characters could have been male— some slimy, scary, powerful suit coming in to represent a giant corporation and threaten the hospital.

>My best guess though, and this really is just a little inkling in my brain, is that in the Pitt, no one is allowed to be a bigger alpha than Robby.

>If all other things about this Tracy Morris character stayed the same but she were a man, he would be too intimidating.

>Robby acts as both protector of the Pitt and again ultimate pinnacle of masculinity. He can’t come across as too afraid, especially not of an outsider. A female character is easier for him to assert dominance over.

>To be clear I’m not saying that the idea is inherently less threatening because the character representing it is female. It’s more like, they chose to make the character female because they imagined a certain character trope which is subconsciously associated with women, which then had the secondary effect of Robby’s character treating her similarly to how he treats his female boss: disrespectfully.
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I just found it interesting that at every opportunity, authority figures in this series are made female, yet they never seem to be good authority figures. They’re ones that for some reason or another don’t deserve the power that they have.

Later in the video she talks about how the belief that Hillary Clinton, or any woman could become president put most people in a "post-sexism" mindset where they stopped checking their sexism much like how Obama put people in a "post-racism" mindset where they stopped checking their racism and how that subconciously influences the choices on The Pitt writers and how the women on the show are perceived.

About how if Gloria had been a man his actions wouldn't fit the tone of the show and instead be a fit for a comedy (I'm seriously getting Michael Scott vibes right now), but of course we know that a woman, a Black woman at that, would never rise to the position of Chief Medical Officer being such a bad boss. In fact to rise to that position Gloria would have to be hyper-competent.

>"Gloria makes out-of-touch poorly-timed comments about incident reports, exterminators and patient satisfaction scores, and she’s just a bad boss.

>We scoff at this ridiculous boss’s silly demands of the down-to-Earth, hardworking, RATIONAL Dr. Robby."

Anyway I'm still formulating thoughts b/c my dumbass forgot to turn on the subtitles so I only half heard the video and I really was just so excited to hear the sentiments I was basically shouted down for stating.

As someone who likes Santos and Langdon I do not understand just Langdon glazers but I also don’t understand just Santos glazers. I also don’t care if this was discussed before because I am not scrolling through this sub to look for old threads, I still wanna discuss it under my post

Anyway, I find Santos way more likeable in season 2. Because she’s not pushing at boundaries as much and sure she’s stressed about charting but overall she seems more grounded

Take season 1. Here’s my problem. Some of you wanna act like she wasn’t trying to push against boundaries, and wasn’t trying to act like she could do anything she wanted without checking with a senior resident. She didn’t even bother checking with Samira that one time she gave orders about a patient and did everything herself. I do think Langdon had a right to be mad about that.

Do I think that he should have berated her in later episodes over that female patient in the ice bath? No. He definitely over reacted-and we now know that he wasn’t acting like himself anyway due to the addiction. His real self is more like the man we see in season 2. But I do agree that he still should have not berated her like that in front of everyone, that was so toxic that we even see Robby in disbelief for how toxic it was.

But I truly can not stand some of you babying Santos. In all honesty, in season 2, I find Santos’s anger a bit childish. Btw I’m not saying she can’t be mad at him for berating her and making her feel insecure, but where I find her anger childish is that even she can’t see she was stepping out of line as an intern, and can’t even realize she’s not supposed to let her beef get in the way of her work.

She steps out of line as a R2 by having an attitude in front of the patient so bad that Garcia has to call her out on it. I still find her a bit more likeable and tolerable in season 2, but I also don’t like her character writing where she sees nothing wrong with acting that way in front of a patient. As patient is not supposed to see your personal beef. And I also don’t understand why some of you irl want to act like she did nothing wrong with behaving that way. That’s why I find her anger childish sometimes. Because she can’t keep her anger not showing and it does come across as whiny and childish.

And for Langdon glazers-that man still probably has a whole season of redeeming himself. What he did left a lasting impact emotionally. However, I don’t like the way they made his addiction recovery about Robby. His recovery is not about Robby, it should have been about him trying to start the baby steps in redeeming himself.

Hey all,

We are in that golden era where we have few months ahead of us where there will not be any new actual text, and we will have a few more material off-show with the awards circuit warming up - interviews, articles et all

As we navigate that, i put forward a gentle reminder that one of the most valuable aspects of this sub is the possibility to engage with media critically. We can ofcourse share what some of the show decisions are making us feel, but i strongly encourage it to go with another level deeper and share,

> why it is making us feel so

> what factors - economic, societal, cultural - created or made it easy for these facts and feelings to flourish

> and are there larger patterns we are observing around all this

Feel free to engage but i think there are few of us who would truly find it valuable, especially since the early days of sub where a dozen commentators spent time, effort sharing some brilliant insights - if you do engage with the pitt media in this fashion.

I for one am looking forward to such interesting, diverse, and insightful readings. Cheers.

EDIT - I do understand communties evolve as folks join and grow, probably this is my selfish reason to nudge and ensure there is still a corner for point 3 as stated in this sub rules.

If any of yous have other starting Qs or guardrails to help folks aim for this, would love to hear in comments. i just put forward three Qs i always found interesting to kickstart this.