r/Tartaria

SAYS 1492 BUT WHY?

You all doubt me and ridicule me, but modern Asian history is based roughly on 3 historic books, where as the books containing tartaria are past abundant.

Denying its existence is naive and silly, it’s clear hardly any of you have done any research into this subject past Google, it’s embarrassing you think Wikipedia is honest

I’m ready for the comments “they got it wrong”, “they were all confused”…. Yes 1000s of scholars, historians, travellers all got it wrong, and the modern world, 300 years later got it right…

How can you even think that sounds reasonable😂

From the dawn of documented history, in until the mid 20th century Tartaria was discussed, initially relentlessly in the historic record, on my Substack I have translated books that include information on Tartaria as early as the 14th century, and then its continued up until the late 19th century, to reappear in classified files in the late 20th century.

Instead of looking at the first google result and thinking you’ve conquered truth, look deeper and you’ll realise what you thought you knew was a fantasy to keep you thick and stupid.

Sorry for the rudeness but it seems most of you enjoy using it, so perhaps you’ll listen and take note if I apply the same logic…

recently ran into this conflict and the imagery from this conflict just screams Tartarian reset to me. all these beautiful palaces completely destroyed and some of them are clearly mudflooded.

the first image is a painting of 5th Bengal European Cavalry Winning the Victoria Cross at Khurkowdah, the wikipedia article didn't provide many details on the painting itself. i suspect it might depict something else happening in the scene.

the second image is the bank of Delhi after being destroyed by mortars and gunfire, it's very roman and ancient looking if you ask me.

the third image is The interior of the Secundra Bagh, several months after its storming during the second relief of Lucknow. again very roman looking. also wikipedia didn't offer much details for that either, only that it is the "interior" meaning that the building has many other parts to it. wonder what they looked like.

the fourth and fifth images are The Mutiny Memorial in Delhi, the base looks very ancient but the tower itself looks a lot cleaner. it could have been built on that place with old world technology after the reset but i suspect that it was already there and they simply refurbished it for the inheritors.

the sixth and seventh images are The Bibighar Well memorial site. i mean that's just amazing, how something like that could even exist in India? it's almost getting to the area of a major slip up in my opinion.

the eighth image is The Flagstaff Tower, Delhi. it looks very ancient and it's proportions are off (especially for a western building) like it's supposed to be way taller than that. i'm calling 100% mudflooded on that.

the final image is The Relief of Lucknow by Thomas Jones Barker. i don't even know what to say about that, that city is tartarian af. it's filled with western buildings that look very ancient and those grand palaces are amazing. looks to be very mudflooded as well. modern Lucknow looks nothing like that btw.

and i know that some of you are going to say "of course the british built that, they had tons of slave labor they could use for anything they wished." and you have a point there, but building this kind of architecture requires both infrastructure and skilled labor. you need advanced tools and machinery to work the stone into beautiful shapes, you need energy- and maintenance infrastructure to keep those tools and machines in good shape and running, you need proper road infrastructure to move the building materials and machines to the construction sites and you need actually skilled people to run these machines, maintain them, design the buildings and make sure that they are both safe to use and work well in the functions they were designed to do and people who are capable of putting them together. now i don't mean to be racist here or anything like that, but when looking at modern india i really don't think india during the time of british occupation would have had any of that and setting all of this up would have been a massive undertaking for the colonial overlords.

this has been a very surface-level look into the conflict and mostly focuses on the very apparent tartarian stuff going on with the conflict, i believe that there is more to this and encourage you too to research it any way you can.

Title is what it says; what are your thoughts and opinions about this? There’s an article I read that I thought was really interesting. Here is the link to the article. https://medium.com/@JesusKeptHisWord/the-return-of-jesus-and-where-are-we-now-on-the-biblical-timeline-9f19d7faf893

The article is also a book on Amazon under the same name.

I have seen many posts confusing what this sub or related theories are about. I propose let’s settle a few concepts for good. The concepts and links below come from years of internet research and the fact that I majored in a related field. I don’t use AI for my posts.

What is Tartary - Tartaria

Tartary was a former geographical territory and this is well documented, officially in many such records, such as

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartary

The first time it got my attention was due to the CIA docs which show how this was a topic they were concerned on manipulating what is known and debated about, former post and CIA link

https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/smlq1l/tartaria_is_real/

The most intriguing doc in my opinion, is this second one:

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78-03362A000500160003-4.pdf

Page 6, “Tartar Conquest”, admits we know “very little” about them and next page literally skips to how to Modern Estate was born. Hold onto this concept as is key to what comes next.

The main concern for the CIA back then was the Marxist/Socialist/Communist scares. They were worried those ideals could spread from the Societ Union and then former fall of the regime to the US. Valid concern, at least from the political point of view.

What they found during their research, is no more than a massive gap in historical terms and research. For that, the concern is to keep the topic as quiet as possible.

Moodflood theories

A few years ago, YouTube started to push heavily the “moodflood” conspiracy, alongside other similar content that does not easily pass the sniff test. For those who don’t know, this theory estates we had some sort of flood that buried most of our realm. Which triggered some type of “reset”.

Do we have many data to support so?Well… you will likely not have a lot of serious conversations with any historian or geologist. This theory tends to come with many other stacked conspiracies.

Not mentioning specifics to avoid bans, but many such theories are just … easy to prove wrong.

Nonetheless, a very valid set of questions started to take place. Those are as follows:

• Why many Churches and historical buildings have several underground stories, including “basement windows” or even doors?
• Sporadic articles of “we were digging to pass over some pipes and we found an ancient cathedral, oops!”
• How did our ancestors build such magnificent buildings? Full stop. How?

Upon what we can tag as “not sufficient answers“, social media posts got seriously off their minds with click baity content about “Old Tech”.

How does this loop back to Tartary, you may ask?

The core theory, in my understanding, is that as we know very little about the Tartars and there was a bit of a conscious effort to erase them from books, we could theorise, they may *probably* have been the society that actually made a lot of buildings and enormous advances worldwide, from which we have virtually almost no knowledge.

The obvious next question is:

Wait, don’t we have collections of books and historical records on how we build all of this?

That is a fair question from which the answer is pretty shocking and… in all honesty, disappointing.

I think the reason why the “Tartary posts” are taking over social media is simple: people are angry and bored of the slop buildings our current society, allegedly peak of knowledge, is building across the land.

If you happen to travel worldwide (I do), the same glass skyscrapers are built everywhere. Same glass. Same finish. All beige. Concrete everywhere. No garden. No soul. Even household accommodations and new mansions are … beige. Bland.

The very first logical response is that capitalism prioritising profit over aesthetics has this as number 1 consequence. For that, we can agree. You can literally be the next DaVinci that our current society would probably keep you unemployed (or ask you to share your skills over TikTok).

But that doesn’t solve our initial query: HOW were our ancestors building, with no electricity, coal or steam powered, buildings so big and beautiful that we now repurpose as museums?

Have you noticed how many “post offices” are now Museums? Or how the restoration of any Cathedral takes, as per the alleged records, triple the time it took us to build it?

You can repeat this exercise over and over.

* Check your local hometown Cathedrals, Post Offices and Town Halls. Add College if applicable.

* Check the population it had when those were built.

* Check the birth and mortality rate.

* Check if people had access to electricity and if they knew how to read.

In most cases, the numbers do not add up. They just don’t.

The Modern Estate

I mentioned this is a very important concept. We know the modern estate started to take shape after the French Revolution but it was not up until the 1800s that the Empires started to fall apart, Royalty couldn’t sustain itself anymore and the democratic modern estate was born.

Most historical records show this pattern. The Church used to keep records of births/baptisms, then this was slowly took over by TownHalls.

The fun part is that thanks to those records is that we know that one great grandparents were highly uneducated and struggling. Plagued by wars and moving abroad to ”the americas” is one of the main stories. Would this population arrive, freshly traumatised, to then build the Empire State in 2 years? (1930-1931)

Even further, Big Ben was built from 1853 to 1859, that is 6 years. That was a London with a population of 2.5 million from which about 20% were Irish immigrant (More or less). We know this is usually 50% are woman, add so children and then you will workout how easily you get a very small number of “working man”.

Check how many buildings were made simultaneously in the 1800s - Early 1900s.

Our history books and knowledge part from the basis that what we know about those buildings, it may be true.

Nobody in Academia would survive a day if they question, for example, the sources of The Great Fire of London and its aftermath. You just go on with what the previous PhD have settle and move on. Or you could question 1 historical source and make that part of your research.

The system as it is, penalises questioning. Even if the very basic analysis throws red flags.

So… what is *the tartary conspiracy truly about?*.

For me, is the research of what we allegedly knew to be “true” about our historical records, main emphasis on the main historical buildings of literally any city that was founded by 1800s or before so. Who benefited from that and why we seemingly cannot replicate those designs anymore, not even if we wanted to.

Just look how long the Big Ben restoration took or the aftermath of the Notre Dame fire. How can the restoration be longer than how long it took to be built with NO electronics neither modern tech?

What this theory is NOT:

We truly don’t know what happened, so any post that starts with “I have proof ABC”, I usually dismiss.

This is not to say sometimes we do find proof such as books or maps etc that mention Tartary. That is NOT a conspiracy per se, as discussed, Tartary is recognised as a former territory that indeed, existed.

We don’t even know if they were the ones building intrinsicate glorious buildings, we don’t even know if we just happened to forgot that many of our current nations had way more organisation and skills and in a matter of 200 years or so of capitalism we managed to erase those from our population.

That wouldn’t be a conspiracy though, is equally frightening.

Tartary is a bit of a “blanket term” for that reason but it englobes all the unanswered questions.