Brand new ref here, I wear specs every day and was wondering if theyre alright to wear whilst refereeing since theres a much lower chance of being smacked in the face by the ball. I do have contacts but I despise them and they cause me a lot of trouble. Is it alright to wear my specs?
Well, I deleted my last post, because i made a mistake, lets clear this up:
According to the new law, a player needs to stay 1 minute (playtime) if the player that had gone out delays it (not within 10 seconds). But, now this situation:
Team A wants to substitute and player AA (player A team A) does longer than 10 seconds. Player BA (Player B, team A), needs to wait 1 playing minute. Clock ref stopped? time stopped! But, player BA can ONLY enter the field when the game is stopped.
Now is the bal for 5 minutes in play and AA thinks ''let me make a foul, so BA can go in'', the foul is a bad foul and you give yellow. But, you know he does it only so BA can join the field, aint that a sort of delay or ''showing a lack of respect for the game''
2nd: throwing ball away for delaying a game is for me a YC (yellow card) but, i read just now:
Sending-off
Sending-off offences include (but are not limited to):
who of you have ever gave a red card for throwing/kicking ball away??
I meant to ask a director or assessor this past weekend but forgot so figured I’d ask here.
Small tournament final with U10/U11s,
Attacker receives the ball in his own half with all defenders near his own box. He advances to the opposing box and while attempting to dribble the goalie within the box, the goalie dives with his hand extended towards the ball, missing the ball and getting the attacker’s leg causing him to fall. While falling the ball bounces up and away from the goal but deflects right above the attacker’s elbow into the goal. When the ball was deflected, the attacker was in the process of extending his arm to break his fall and the position on his arm where the ball made contact was only slightly distanced from his torso.
The decision was goal and no disciplinary action given an attempt to play the ball within the box with a goal being scored as well as age. My justification was the arm to have been for support and as such no unnatural. On rereading the law, I noticed the bullet point for handling that directly enters the opponent’s goal to be separate from other offenses. I did not believe the attacker deliberately moved to touch the ball.
So does the immediate entrance to goal from the arm overrule a natural position? At older ages, would downgrading the goalie’s offense to no card be justified? And would a potential handling be considered more severe in this situation? Also, if handling were called would there be a sanction for the goalie?
I was very relieved that the scoring team went up by 4 or 5 goals with this and that it didn’t seem to have a major effect in the last few minutes of the match. But the play is still puzzling to me as of how to approach.
Thank you for any help or advice!
Need some advise if I did the right thing or if I was wrong.
I was reffing an u8 football match but both teams were playing up to 7v7.
Home team goalkeeper stopped a shot and controlled the ball with both hands in his box absolutely fine.
He then proceeded to walk to the edge of his box realising the ball and kneeing it back up to himself, the ball never touched the ground, I warned the goalkeeper that I classed this the same and releasing the ball into play, manager said I was wrong and hes allowed to do this.
Was I wrong?
If im wrong how would you deal with this?
By now everyone has seen the stills and video of the West Ham v Arsenal game. And while this isn’t really the place for discussing everyone’s favorite teams, I do know that pro behavior bleeds down to what we all see.
We all know that there’s nothing in the LotG that allow for full on grappling and wrestling maneuvers. We’ve all been letting it go until the ball is actually back in play, but now we are getting full bear hugs with arms interlocked from behind after the ball is kicked. I reffed an adult men’s game and I am seeing more young guys dreaming “they could have been a pro” pulling shenanigans. I am not sure why PGMOL has decided to turn a blind eye this year, but it feels like there may be room for guidance.
Law 12 is pretty specific:
“A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences:
a handball offence (except for the goalkeeper within their penalty area)
holds an opponent
impedes an opponent with contact
bites or spits at someone on the team lists or a match official
throws an object at the ball, an opponent or a match official, or makes contact with the ball with a held object”
Given how clear that is, what could be added to push back on what’s going on right now?
New rules coming next season:
https://downloads.theifab.com/downloads/changes-to-the-laws-of-the-game-202627?l=en
My most important question, at this moment:
With the new rule about a player having to wait one minute before being allowed to enter/re-enter the field, I can see some interesting practical situations coming up.
For example:
A team has a player waiting to come on or re-enter after treatment. The one minute has passed, but the ball has not gone out of play yet.
What if a teammate deliberately kicks the ball out of play, giving possession to the opponents, just to create the stoppage needed to let their player enter? Would you consider that normal tactical play, delaying/spoiling the game, or potentially cautionable?
And what if a player deliberately commits a minor foul on an opponent for the same reason: to force a stoppage so their teammate can enter/re-enter? Would you treat that as “smart”, unsporting behaviour, or simply judge the foul on its own merits?
Curious how other referees would manage this in practice.
Here's a fun offside scenario - I actually e-mailed IFAB for clarification, but I'm curious to see what everyone thinks.
Scenario: Team A throws ball in, ball deflects off the back of a player's head from Team B, a second player in the offside position from Team A plays the ball and scores. What is the call?
Law 11.2 — Offside offence:
>"[…] gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
– rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent
– been deliberately saved by any opponent.
>A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately played the ball, including by deliberate handball, is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent."
Law 11.3 — No offence:
>"There is no offside offence if a player receives the ball directly from:
* a goal kick
* a throw-in
* a corner kick"
My take is a deflection doesn't reset offsides, and a deflection isn't directly from the opponent on the throw in. But I'd love to hear everyone's take.
[EDIT] Official IFAB response is: > The goal should be awarded as no other attacker touched/played the ball after the throw-in was taken.
Thanks everyone for the healthy debate.
Long throw hits football goalpost. CR didn’t see it, AR1 thought my keeper had touched it. I was trying to get the CR to confer with AR2, but his attitude seemed to suggest there would be no discussion on this.
What would have been the best way for me as a coach, to get him to ask AR2 for some help. The fact that AR1 claimed my keeper touched it seemed to be why he was dead set on the decision, and while his attitude was not hostile (I have known this referee for around 8 years), he was at the “very thin ice” line of communicating with a coach.
For all you wondering, play had continued as AR1 didn’t flag the touch, ended in a corner and they deemed corner was the right call from this play anyways, they scored on the corner in the 82nd minute (80 minute games, we were in stoppage). We lost 2-3, district playoff, loser out.
I posted in here about 2 weeks ago that I was going to be an AR for my first WPSL game and I had a few questions. Well, the game was this past weekend and here I am with the update:
Pregame: AR1 and I showed up about 60 minutes before the game. CR was closer to 40 minutes. No fourth official since this game was technically WPSL II which only assigns 3 officials in Arizona. The field (a charter school’s football field) was not in the greatest condition but it was safe to play. No locker room so we set up camp in the corner of the running track. Unfortunately my polo arrived about an hour too late to wear to pregame.
Game: We wore blue shirts. The home team dominated, which was expected from being aware of the friendly between the two teams in March (which ended 7-2 in favor of the home team). The level of play was very high. There were about 75-100 people in the stands/milling about. Home was up 3-0 at the half and went on to win 4-0. No major controversies to report, CR didn’t even give a caution.
Postgame: Squadi is…not a great reporting platform. We were unable to figure out how to upload the scores to Squadi, so CR sent AR1 and me home, saying that he would figure it out. I figured it out the next day (tldr we should have been using the app instead of the website), told CR (who then uploaded the score to Squadi) and my assignor. The manual has since been updated with this information.
Overall: I had a lot of fun, the experience way different than other games I’ve done. Would do again, which is good since I have 2 more WPSL games lined up in early June (a 4th and an AR1). I’m looking forward to them.
I am curious how others run this. I recently returned to reffing and had been distributing AR flags for a parent volunteer at the younger level.
Last weekend I decided not to and it was so much better. No over zealous parent trying to call offside or clearly give their team a throwin when it wasn't the call.
I think I'm done with parent ARs. What does everyone else do?
I've been thinking of becoming a ref for a while now and I've just finished my in person training and can go referee matches now.
I'm excited to get going, what are your top tips to make sure I dont bugger up (this is in the UK)
Hi. Wish everyone is doing good.
So I became a Muslim referee. And I can't handshake womens respectfully for religious reasons. But I have to ref some women's matches
I been reffing for almost 3 years and Im confident in my abilities but tomorrow is my 1st time being a center ref for adults and I know the game is called much differently compared to high and middle schoolers
How would yall make sure that your 1st adult match is a complete success I have a chance to make a serious impression on my assignor who hasn't even met me yet and its my 1st weekend working for him so any advice is appreciated!!
I did a game today with a higher and more skilled referee as my AR..I had been begging to be paired up with him as my AR so I could get feedback.
It was kind of harsh, but I asked for bluntness. I generally like honest feedback. And overall I did quite well. Just explaining the fouls a little bit too long. Told to cut it down to one or two words. And tone down the pointing to free kick locations. I let a foul play out a bit longer than I should have but he understood why I played advantage.
He did ask me why I awarded a yellow instead of a red on a dogo. I explained that the other AR felt there were other players and it didn't meet dogo but I was debating a red. As we discussed our angles. He said that it was good to discuss the angle, and helps calms things down.
He was happy with how I kept tempers down (which is something I have been working on) .
He did say that it'll be good to see myself taped so I can see what weird habits I have.
I feel good. It builds up my confidence and I feel more prepared to take on more challenging games.
For quite awhile I have been arguing that my fellow refs need to get more comfortable using cards as a tool for game management for girls/women.
I’ve heard people say that girls “don’t mean it” or “aren’t as aggressive”; I’ve always felt like that is just BS.
This clip above is the consequence. There’s no world in which that isn’t a red (and I am not a Chelsea supporter) It’s studs up high, but the bigger issue is the kick out. The fact that the AR declined to signal, and the CR went yellow is telling. But more significantly, it’s reported that this ref has not given a red in the last 52 matches - at the WSL level.
That kick-out is always a red in the men’s professional game, and it should be in the women’s as well.
I recently had a game on a very muddy and long grass field. A defender was going for the ball in the penalty area and fell over the ball. I wouldnt have called his a handball offense, however, when she was on the ground she hugged the ball. I consulted with the AR to see if he had a better angle, but we both agreed and awarded a penalty kick. If she had just fallen and the ball grazed her arm, I would not have called it, but when she actively held the ball to her body on the ground, I called the penalty kick. Thoughts?
So bit of context, I'm a 21 year old new referee from England, only been doing it about 6 months, but really enjoying it (sometimes!)
I ref predominantly at one local girls club, can be ages 8-16, but I mainly do u11s and above.
Just wondering what people's stances are on foul throws, should I be recalling it and giving them another go, should I give it to the other team right away, or should I just not even call it out?
So far I've tended to call it out when its a really bad one, and if they're u13 or below I will allow them a retake, but I guess that's technically wrong?
I was watching one of the older refs on the u12s game after me and he wasn't calling a single one even though some were quite obviously wrong.
Just wanting some feedback on this to ultimately make me a better ref, especially as I'm moving soon so might not get such a good club, and might be doing older games, or people who have always had them called or whatever.
it’s a u17 Girls game and the captain is in my physics class. not like friends but we’ve chatted because shes right in front of me. I’m not going to be biased at all but I feel like people might perceive that I am. how do i manage this?
Over nearly forty years as a player, coach, soccer parent and ref, I’ve never seen this one before. Curious how others would have handled it… U16 girls on a fairly chilly morning, but as the sun started to come out, it was starting to get warmer. One team in black and the other in blue, but several players in blue appear to have black long sleeve shirts under their jerseys.
Black is taking a goal kick, which goes past me towards the touch line. As I turn to follow the play I realize one of the blue players moving toward the ball, jersey in hand, wearing an all black long sleeve shirt! (My best guess was she was trying to remove the long sleeve shirt.)
I stopped play, instructed the players to keep their shirts on while on the field of play, and had black retake the goal kick once everyone was fully dressed again.
Did I handle this right? Anyone know the correct procedure for “player removes their own shirt during play.”
In yesterdays NWSL game between Bay FC and San Diego, SD is on the attack, BFC player takes a ball to the face, she has no time to react and her head whips back, ref stops play, SD coach apparently reacts disagreeably to the call. Couldn't see that part on the broadcast but obviously Koroleva could. Straight red to the coach who to his credit then leaves without further argument.
Stadium not happy, broadcasters very sympathetic to the coach. But she did the right thing to protect the player and refs. I appreciate it!
Ed: Katja not Katya, sorry I have a "Katya" in my autocorrect history