
If you see a monster kill him, if you wait to hear his past you might start loving him
Would love to get your thoughts on this video, inspired by Nietzsche

Would love to get your thoughts on this video, inspired by Nietzsche
I've been working through the Atlantis text as a pastime for years, absolutely not as a scholar, but as someone who likes puzzle-solving. The detail in the account always struck me as too specific to be pure fantasy: the hydrology, the canal dimensions, the harvests, the elephants, the mud shoals. If it were an allegory it wouldn't need that kind of granularity. The way it was written feels more like a compressed field report.
Like many of you, I kept returning to the Richat Structure as the most convincing candidate. The concentric rings match. The Green Sahara was real, and the fertile plain and megafauna fit the African Humid Period. But in all honesty the Richat hypothesis can't absorb the full feature set. The canal to the sea. The shoals of mud rendering navigation impassable. The Atlantic naval reach. The Richat Structure is five hundred kilometers from the ocean.
Recently I started stress-testing the hypothesis systematically, and the pushback on the Richat-only model is decisive: the internal inconsistencies cannot be ignored. The features cannot all belong to the same place.
At some point I had a sort of epiphany. I had been treating the contradictions as noise. But what if they're the signal?
Any good storyteller would smooth over internal contradictions, so make the story more palatable. But Plato is explicit that he is not the author of this account, he's a transmitter. He was very respectful of the source material. He transmitted with deliberate fidelity rather than improving for narrative coherence. Critias says as much directly: he rehearsed the account from memory overnight specifically to reproduce it faithfully rather than well (*Timaeus* 26b). A transmitter with that orientation wouldn't resolve contradictions, but would pass them on intact.
Which means the contradictions are preserved features. The are, so to say, the fingerprints of distinct real-world events and places compressed into a single narrative through millennia of oral transmission.
The dual-core model
When you group the text's features by environmental compatibility (in other words what can physically co-exist in the same place) two systems separate out consistently. (I explain my method in a substack post, link at the end of this post).
The first is an inland Green Saharan civilization centered on the Adrar Plateau and the Richat Structure in Mauritania. During the African Humid Period (roughly 11,000–5,000 years ago), this region had perennial rivers, savanna vegetation, elephant populations, and large agricultural settlements. The Richat Structure provides the natural template for the concentric rings. The broad alluvial basins provide the mega-plain with its two annual harvests.
The second is an Atlantic coastal hub corresponding to the present-day Banc d'Arguin. This is a shallow, sediment-dominated coastal zone on the Atlantic coastal zone of Mauritania, roughly 500 km west of the Richat Structure. During the early Holocene, sea levels were substantially lower and much of this shelf was dry or intertidal land. As sea levels rose, rapid marine transgression across an extremely flat coastal plain would have buried harbor infrastructure under sediment. It would produce exactly the "shoals of mud" Plato describes as rendering the sea impassable after the catastrophe.
Satellite-derived geomorphology has identified paleodrainage networks flowing from the Adrar plateau westward toward the Atlantic, active during the humid period. The two cores were connected by river systems. The civilization spanning them would have had, simultaneously: fertile inland plains, megafauna, a coastal harbor with Atlantic reach, and a navigable corridor connecting the two (up to the plateau).
The dual catastrophe
The "single day and night" destruction is the clearest compression. The inland system collapsed gradually through the well-documented desiccation and desertification of the Sahara. The coastal system was incrementally drowned by Holocene sea-level rise. Both processes destroyed the civilization from different ends, within a window of centuries — which oral memory contracted into a single catastrophic event.
What if this hypothesis holds water?
The story does not point to a single sunken city. Instead it points to a networked civilization of the African Humid Period whose memory survived in compressed and contradictory form.
I've written a full reconstruction with citations on (https://occaecaticircumvenio830417.substack.com/p/contradictions-as-clues-atlantis), covering the methodology, the layer decomposition, the geological evidence, and a serious engagement with the argument that Plato simply made the story up for narrative purposes.
Genuinely interested in serious engagement with this hypothesis. And a call to look for man-made canals and other paleo-structures around the Banc d'Arguin :-)
This question is for only a professor or someone who has been studying Plato for years.
I heard from someone that without knowing Attic Greek, you cannot really understand Plato and Aristotle.
How true is this ? Can someone tell me ? I mean the translations can't be that bad (even I myself have realized that the translations of his dialogues aren't very satisfying)
Please explain this? Or give your opinion on this
hey guys, i recently read Charmides as my first plato work and decided to try my best of retaining the information by summarising the text, however since i don't study philosophy academically i don't really know where to get feedback from so i would love it if someone could help me figure out if i'm doing this correctly, i will attach my summary of charmides below if anyone has free time to give some feedback, Cheers!
Socrates returns from war
they are sitting at a wrestling ground, our hero, Charmides, sitting next to him asking for a cure for his headache;
Socrates then says that the method of healing he learned, works by healing the whole instead of just the aching part in his own words (or rather, the people from whom he learned this healing method) "One should not undertake to cure the eyes without also curing the head nor the head without the body, so one should not set about treating the body without the soul"
furthermore, he extends on his view by deciding to test the boy's soul by wether or not he posses the trait of being "self controlled" while he ironically struggles to stay focused after catching a glimpse inside the boy's clothes the discussion starts as follows
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but i would like to add my own proposal, that being "unhurried under circumstances which creates external pressure for hurrying, is indeed a form of self control", i will refer or more simply "staying calm under pressure"