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I finally understand why I don't like Ace.
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I finally understand why I don't like Ace.

Spoiler alert for Marineford!

I've been reading One Piece for decades now (it's really weird to realize this) and I've never understood why people were obsessed with Ace. I never liked him. When he died, I was shocked and sad for Luffy and all the Whitebeard Pirates, but not for myself. Today, I watched a short about Garp and Ace at Marineford and I finally understood my problem with Ace.

TL;DR: Ace is held back by his pride, which hurts everyone around him.

People love Ace because he's fun, cool, and confident. He's also a great fighter and a really good older brother. He is one of the most complex characters in One Piece and he is written very well. I want to make this clear: He's a great character and Oda did a great job of writing a flawed character. I just personally don't like him.

My problem with Ace is his pride. After Thatch's death, Ace makes it his personal quest to bring down. Whitebeard didn't want him to do it, but his pride made him do it anyway. This decision was massively harmful to the Whitebeard Pirates. When he was captured by Blackbeard, the crew supported him and were willing to die for him. Ace, on the other hand, didn't accept their help. He saw himself as unworthy of their sacrifice because of his lineage and because he got into this situation all on his own. That's why he doesn't attempt to free himself at all during his imprisonment and at Marineford. At his execution, he has many opportunities to choose life. Garp asks him what he wants him to do, but he says nothing. I am convinced that, in this situation, Garp was ready to throw everything away for Ace. Ace only had to speak up and have his Robin moment. He doesn't though and just stays there. Garp accepts his decision to not be saved.

When Luffy finally frees him, he goes with Luffy because he doesn't actively want to be executed. However, at the first opportunity to destroy all the progress that was made for him, he seizes it. Every pirate present at Marineford risked their life for him and many died. Whitebeard died and his final orders to his crew were to live and escape. This order applied to Ace as well, but it only took a few slanderous words from Akainu for Ace's pride to kick in.

Whitebeard wouldn't have cared that Akainu insulted him. He wanted Ace to live. Ace didn't want to live. Defending the name of a dead man who gave his life to save Ace was more important to him than protecting his own life.

Ace's last words were ones of regret. He realized that he couldn't let go of his pride, so he asked Luffy to do the one thing he couldn't: live.

It's heartbreaking and well-written. I just can't feel any love for him, though. I pity him, but at the end of the day, he rejected every attempt to save him from despair and he didn't allow the people in his life to help him. He had the means to overcome his pain but he didn't want to.

I've struggled with depression and self-hatred my whole life. Sometimes it feels like nothing can pull me out of this hole but, like Ace, I have the people and resources to help me. When I don't use them, it's my fault, not the world's. That's why I try to let people help me. Otherwise I'm only hurting myself and others for no reason.

If you read all of this, thank you. I didn't realize where this text was going when I started writing it. Ace is a great character and I know Oda didn't create him for me. This is just how I see Ace and you will definitely see him differently. I just realized that, to me, Ace is what I don't want to be.

u/Sakaralchini — 6 hours ago
Luffy’s True Dream isn't to find the One Piece... it’s to HIDE it again
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Luffy’s True Dream isn't to find the One Piece... it’s to HIDE it again

I'm a bit late watching ep 1088 and i don't know if this idea has been discussed before, but I'm gonna say mine.

i searched online and found that most people think Luffy wants to throw a party or go to the moon, but I think his dream is much more "Pirate-like." I believe Luffy’s true dream is to re-hide the One Piece and start a New Era of prank.

The biggest clue here is that Luffy knows this dream even when he was a child. So it isn't something super technical or complex. It's one that he thought funny.

Here is why this fits the specific reactions we've seen:

Shanks: When Luffy told him his dream as a kid, Shanks cried and gave him the hat. Why? Because Luffy didn't just want to be Roger; he wanted to ensure the "Spirit of Adventure" never dies. It’s a selfless, yet incredibly pirate-y goal.

Ace and Sabo: They laughed and called it "childish." To an adult, finding a treasure is the end of the journey. To a child, the best part of a game is playing it again. Hiding the treasure is like resetting a playground.

IUsopp: Reacted with "That’s impossible!" because hiding the world's most sought-after treasure from the entire World Government and every pirate is a logistical nightmare.

Brook: "you certainly know how to entertain"

Sanji: "hey maybe there's something wrong with his head"

Luffy: "maybe it's possible one I'm king of the pirates"

The "Laugh Tale" Connection: Roger laughed because he realized the treasure is a "joke" (or maybe not) that keeps the world moving. If Luffy finds out the One Piece is meant to bring people together, what better way to do that than by giving the whole world a common goal to chase forever?

Conclusion: Luffy doesn't want to be the "King" to rule; he wants to be the "King" because the King is the one who sets the rules of the game. He’s going to reset the clock and make sure the "Romance Dawn" happens over and over again.

u/Hot_Setting3371 — 7 hours ago
From the East Blue pier to the top of the pirate world!!
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From the East Blue pier to the top of the pirate world!!

Forget the animation glow-up for a second—just look at the status difference. In that first slide, they don't even have a navigator or a proper ship. It was just a sack of food and a dream. Seeing them go from riding in a dinghy to becoming some of the most prominent pirates who can change the fate of the world is why this story is peak. The growth is earned.

u/Responsible-Diet-612 — 6 hours ago
Zoro and his final 3 swords
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Zoro and his final 3 swords

*Spoiler* for anyone who hasn't finished Wano arc!

Of the 12 Supreme Swords, Zoro has already wielded one (is Shusui considered supreme), and is the current owner of two that have potential to become supreme (haven't read Elbaph arc yet... so not sure if this has changed) - Wado Ichimonji and Enma. I assume he will end up with a third of similar potential, if not already supreme. But which one do we assume he will end up with?

Mihawk giving him Yoru as a change of guard would be momentous. I have a sneaky feeling, Zoro will end up with Ace, and use it to beat someone big - Fujitora? Maybe Mihawk himself, leading to Mihawk giving him Yoru? Saying that, Luffy getting Ace feels more momentous. But Luffy doesn't really use swords (except briefly to beat Beast Pirates).Maybe he needs Ace to beat Imu. Any views?

u/grumpylondoner1 — 10 hours ago
Did anyone even skip skypiea or is everyone just taking the piss?
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Did anyone even skip skypiea or is everyone just taking the piss?

everytime something happens, all the talks are about "haha shouldn't have skipped skypiea, your loss, missed the foreshadowing" etc it's been

5-6 years since I caught up to One piece but never seen 1 person claiming they skipped skypiea.

u/hangingclothess — 15 hours ago
A Marvel Rivals-inspired doodle
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A Marvel Rivals-inspired doodle

LADY LOKI

I'm back on my genderbending and thought it'd be fun to make another one after seeing the Marvel Rivals' Lady Loki. It's a fun challenge for me to see what alternate looks and clothes work for a character, and after finding out that a lot of the Elbaph characters' names are based on wrestlers, I landed on Rhea Ripley's and Persephone's signature attire.

Will there be a Lady Loki hybrid genderbend? Only time will tell...

As per usual, you can find more of my art, social media, and more in the link below: https://linktr.ee/wafalo

u/wafalo — 6 hours ago
Arlong killing Nami’s mother broke me 💔
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Arlong killing Nami’s mother broke me 💔

The moment Arlong killed Nami’s mother right in front of her completely broke me. She was still trying to smile and stay strong for her daughters even in her final moments… I honestly couldn’t hold back tears.

And that black-and-white scene? The way it was animated made it hit even harder. It felt so raw and powerful like everything else faded away except that moment. Massive respect to Oda’s writing too, because the buildup, the emotions, and the payoff were all incredible. I didn’t expect to get this attached this early.

u/Responsible-Mud3938 — 4 hours ago
Is this guy even have rights
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Is this guy even have rights

Like, what even is he? As far as I can tell, he’s not a Fish-Man and not a Devil Fruit user animal like Chopper so what is he supposed to be? And would I get punished if I caught him, cooked him, and turned him into a burger?

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Smoker is definitely my favorite character so far in the entire series as of now.

I started reading the manga two weeks ago and have been enjoying it.

the way this dude basically does nothing in fighting or anything.

Yet the influence he does to the people around him and the way he acted each time he's on the screen in the series, is amazing.

I have never seen such a character move my feelings like this before.

u/Full-Entertainment15 — 9 hours ago

Imu and The Holy Land

The latest chapter makes it seem like Imu has some kind of limitation whenever he leaves Mary Geoise.

At this point, he’s easily the top candidate for having undergone the immortality surgery from the Ope Ope no Mi. But something just clicked for me — Ope Ope no Mi users always create a “Room” to use their abilities, right?

What if the Room used during the immortality surgery was extended to cover all of Mary Geoise?

That could explain why Imu appears restricted outside of it. Maybe leaving that space weakens him or makes him vulnerable, like he’s stepping outside the range of whatever is sustaining his immortality.

TLDR: Imu’s immortality is restricted to the ‘room’ used for the immortality surgery

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u/Seefay — 1 hour ago
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Just a thought: The "Dragon is a fraud" meme needs to die. The Revolutionary Army is doing the heavy lifting.

Just a quick caveat/disclaimer: I know this is just an anime/manga at the end of the day, so I don't take this too seriously. I'm just sharing this perspective to spark some fun discussion

The meme that Dragon and the Revolutionary Army "haven't done anything" really needs to end.

The Revolutionary Army has basically been creating the material conditions to make liberation possible across the different nations of the One Piece world (or at least the most critical ones). They've been empowering the citizens to rise up and, fundamentally, they are the ones who generated the current crisis in Mary Geoise. I believe the Revolutionary Army will be the ones responsible for showing the world a new possible future, regardless of the fact that our hero, Luffy, will be the one who ultimately defeats the main antagonist/oppressor.

What Oda is doing with his narrative reminds me a lot of how the West has historically valued the role of the United States (the West / the "heroes") in the victory against Hitler's Germany, versus the role of the Soviet Union, who were the ones who actually defeated the Nazis.

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