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I recently bought the 1800-2000 Endeavour Perpetual Calendar Tantalum Blue Enamel from the grey market. Does anyone know if this the right box?

I know other upper tier Moser’s models like the Streamliner Tourbillon are different and come with a much nicer wood grain box specific to the model watch and include a loupe, etc.

Curious if anyone who has purchased from an AD can verify?

Thank you in advance!

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Their pieces definitely aren’t for everyone but if you like avant garde ways of time telling then this brand is for you.

I could watch the Sphere jump hours all day long without getting bored.

Which watch would you pick as your first Moser if you had a chance? On the left is the Pioneer Flying Hours in the White Fume dial. On the right is the Endeavour Perpetual Calendar made out of tantalum with a Blue Enamel dial.

Thoughts?

I wandered into a boutique in Menlo Park a year ago and saw the H. Moser & Cie. 1800-2000 Endeavour Perpetual Calendar Tantalum Blue Enamel with the Abyss Blue grand feu enamel fumé dial and fell in love. Here we are a year later and one fell into my lap (while $ fell out of my pocket).

The dial is incredible with its texture, the gradient shading of blue and way it plays in the light is truly dynamic. The weight of the tantalum case is substantial without being too much and the deployant clasp is a really nice touch. Even the 42mm case size doesn’t feel that big, granted I have 7.25” (18.5cm) but the curved case back and angle of the lugs makes it extremely wearable. I honestly feel like I could (and just might) make this my daily wear.

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These two are obviously very different watches, but I’m considering purchasing one of them. Does anyone here own either of them? If so, what are the pros and cons?

Pricing-wise, I can get the Burgundy Pioneer Tourbillon used for ~$50k (~33% off retail) and the Streamliner Perpetual Moon brand-new for full retail ~$44k.

If you were me, which would you choose? Which one do you personally prefer, and why?

If it helps, the main timepieces in my current core collection are the Panda Daytona, Overseas, Speedmaster Moonshine Gold, Tudor Pelagos, GS Spring Drive, Baume Riviera Perpetual Calendar, and Blood Moon.

I am trying to understand whether the dial is the same shade as the Pioneer Mad Red. There’s no AD near me, so I’m unable to try the watch on in person. I’m looking for a burgundy-toned watch, so if the Pioneer Burgundy Tourbillon leans more red than burgundy, I’d pass on it.

Anyone own the watch, or has seen it in person? Mind sharing any photos?