r/ModernJazzGuitar

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Preface, I have taught jazz theory, improvisation and jazz guitar at the university level. I'm the author of the Sheets of Sound for Guitar series books. I'm well versed in traditional and jazz theory.

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Do you realize that theory, in particular -- western theory, is an after-the-fact analysis of composed music? We tend to think of theory as rules and formulas when it's simply a common language used to describe what someone else has done.

The common western theory taught in universities is based on the Baroque period of music (1600–1750).

And then, when jazz came along, we tried to analyze it in terms of Baroque rules and principles. Along came Bird, Trane, Herbie, Chick and up and up.

AND WE ARE STILL USING BAROQUE terminology to describe jazz. Of course, Barris Harris, Hal Galper, Dave Liebman updated these principles and helped usher in a period of what we now refer to as "Jazz Theory".

Of course, we are still taking after-the-fact analysis and attempting to generate rules and regulations about what is valid based on looking at things backwards.

Reality check -- You don't play by the rules. YOU MAKE THE RUlES. The rules will bend to follow what you played. If it sounds good, it *IS* good.

With all that being said, can you play a b9 against a Maj7 chord? Answer, YES OF COURSE YOU CAN. Try taking a tune like "You stepped out of a dream" and for ever tonic, Try using an altered dominant tonality. Does it work? Yes, does it fit the rule books? Who cares!!!

Let's stop trying to use western theory (baroque or otherwise) to govern what we can or cannot do in jazz.

Rules are like labels, jazz is not Mayonnaise.

I'll post some more articles like this in the future, perhaps taking these concepts forther.

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u/jackzucker — 12 days ago
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I wanted to give a short write-up on my 1964 Gibson 175.

As some of you know, I've had close to 12 175s as well as a couple 165s.

I'd had them from almost every era, 1964, 1968, 1971, 1974, 1989(4), 2005, 2012

As time went on, gibson made the build heavier and heavier in an attempt to save money on warranty repairs. They also briefly flirted with 3pc mahogany and 3pc maple necks to avoid warpage. Tops also got thicker and glues were changed. Originally hide and then PVA. I have heard that the modern 175s used epoxy for the plates but I'm not sure.

In 2012, gibson was "caught" using laminated fingerboards so it's possible the 175 from that era also fell victim.

I haven't played a real '59 and only briefly played a '59 reissue so I can't tell you much about them.

This '64 is remarkable in that there is almost no top sinkage. By contrast, when you get up to the '80s 175s, they almost all have significant top sinkage. One of the first things I do when I look at a 175 is look at how many threads are visible above the base. On the late '80s models, you often see 1/4" to 3/8" of threads visible. On my 64, there is less than 1/8. Of course this can vary based on the hight of the base/bridge itself. I'm talking the standard base and bridge, including tuneamatic.

IMO, the '88/'89 guitars were the last era that had a light enough build that you actually got some acoustic resonance when you played electrically. Sadly, the 88/89 guitars also suffer from extreme top sinkage. I've heard that Gibson flirted with kerfed bracing but I cannot confirm which eras had this.

My 64 has a couple screw holes in the top which apparently were from a bigsby. It also has replaced pickups (patent # pickups). Tuners, tailpiece are also replaced. It weighs slightly more than 6lb compared to the 7.5lb of the 2012 I recently sold.

Earlier ones have a much more resonant vibe to them than the modern ones. Each decade generally brought heavier builds and had different characteristics, progressively worse build quality/younger woods and subsceptibility to top sinkage, warping, etc.

Will write more later and accompany with a sound demo.

u/jackzucker — 10 days ago
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Returning To Guitar: Method Book Or Youtube Recommendations?

At various times decades ago I learned about 12 chords and played a few folk songs. About 20 years ago I played jazz, classical and R&B on sax, and remember some of the music theory from then. I remember most of the 12 guitar chords. I want to learn to play jazz and blues on electric guitar. I don't know my way around the fretboard. I can play some major, minor and dominant chords on piano, and can figure out scales on a piano, but not play most of them fluently (I have to think a lot). Are there any method books or Youtube channels that you can recommend I learn from? The goal is to play jazz standards. Thank you!

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u/dshaiken — 3 days ago
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Playing outside (more ideas)

I've done a lot of demonstrations of playing outside using rhythmic and melodic displacement. I have many examples of this on my www.youtube.com/jackzucker site. A series of 4 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5CXo4pMkTE

However, lately i'm obsessed with using countdown changes over ii-V-I chord progressions.

So for | Gm7 | C7 | Fmaj7 | % |

I would play over

| Gm7 Ab7 | DbMaj7 E7 | Amaj7 C7 | Fmaj7 |

For you theory nuts you can analyze this in terms of the superimpositions over the original chords but I prefer to just let the sound wash over them.

I haven't done an instructional video in a while but i'm thinking of doing one as well as some patterns you can use to outline these countdown changes.

u/jackzucker — 4 days ago