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Daniel: Son of Owlsley or Fisk’s Successor?
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Daniel: Son of Owlsley or Fisk’s Successor?

I’ve had this theory for a while now, and I just can't get it out of my head. There are two big possibilities for Daniel’s future:

Option A: The Vengeful Son

Daniel is actually Leland Owlsley’s son. You remember Leland,the accountant Kingpin killed in Season 1 of Daredevil for his betrayal. Before he died, Owlsley mentioned he was planning to flee the country with his son, a character we never saw. The original showrunners even revealed that Season 4 was meant to introduce the son as the true Owl. What if Daniel is just faking his loyalty, waiting for the right moment to avenge his father?

Option B: The Kingpin’s Heir

On the other hand, what if Wilson Fisk decides to officially name Daniel as his heir? This could lead to Daniel taking on the mantle of The Rose. In the comics, The Rose is typically Fisk’s son (Richard), a sophisticated but cold-blooded crime lord who wears a mask and tries to run his own empire. Given their bond, Daniel fits the elegant criminal aesthetic of The Rose perfectly.

u/Swimming_Issue8060 — 20 hours ago
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Do you want Moon Knight Season 2? And if yes, what should it focus on?

Rewatching Moon Knight and honestly, the first half of the show is still way better than the ending.

The early episodes had mystery, psychological tension, horror vibes, and Oscar Isaac absolutely carrying. Then the final 2 episodes felt way more generic MCU than the show deserved.

Do you still want a Season 2?

And if you do, what should it actually be about:

- Jake Lockley

- a more street-level story

- full psychological horror

- Midnight Mission style

- Bushman

- more Khonshu / mythological weirdness

- Crossover with Daredevil?

Because I still think Moon Knight had the bones of a great show, it just didn’t fully stick the landing.

u/TaskNo4783 — 5 hours ago
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Cap’s side would’ve been so cooked if they fought this version of Spiderman😭

Literally the only one who could do anything is Wanda

u/Queasy_Commercial152 — 14 hours ago
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The new “Harry Osborn” in Brand New Day

I have a theory for Brand New Day: Daniel will become Peter’s best friend at university, but as a trap set by Wilson Fisk.

In this scenario, Daniel plays the "Harry Osborn" role: the wealthy, charismatic friend who fills the void in Peter's life. However, Daniel is secretly operating as The Rose, running the streets for his mentor, Fisk.

The real threat remains Wilson Fisk. Instead of using brute force, he’s using Daniel to infiltrate Peter’s civilian life and destroy him from the inside out. Peter thinks he’s finally found a brother, but he’s actually being played by the Kingpin’s most dangerous pawn.

It turns a classic friendship into a deadly game of psychological chess.

u/Swimming_Issue8060 — 15 hours ago
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Do you think DDBA S3 will recreate this panel?

We already have Jessica Jones confirmed for Season 2... The Punisher and The Hand (both of which are tied to Daredevil) being confirmed to be in Spiderman BND... And there are rumours of Luke Cage and Iron Fist being in Season 3. What do you think?

u/black-pantha — 19 hours ago
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Reminder to my Fellow Marvel fans that in a few Months we will See These Three teams Meet...

No hateful or bashing comments, I want us to try and be civil here.

u/MTM_2814616 — 16 hours ago
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Theory: Maximus started The Watchdogs

There are a LOT of unanswered questions about the Inhumans series, mostly due to it’s cancellation. I’ve gone through the show and came up with a few theories as to where these characters went, some world building implications, and in this theory, a few closer connections to the greater Inhumans Saga as seen in Agents of SHIELD.

Maximus is probably the most interesting character from the show. He secures a very early Loki-esq position as this trickster sort of character, trying to overthrow the royal family and rise to power in Attilan, under the pretense of an Inhuman Revolution that’s really just a front for his power grab.

In the opening of Inhumans, we see an Inhuman, Triton, being hunted down by… someone. They never elaborate who is hunting down Inhumans, just that people are. However, looking at these people hunting down Triton, they seem to have an absurd amount of military grade firepower for just some people who hate Inhumans. I think it makes the most sense for them to probably be members of The Watchdogs, given how they strategize and group up against Inhumans.

We learn later in the show that Maximus sent these people to kill Triton, as part of his plan to radicalize the people Attalin and take over as king.

While I think one kill, a life that everyone knew, would certainly be affective, I think there has to be much more to it than that. Overtime, humans have become more efficient at killing Inhumans, even before The Watchdogs were brought in by that politician in Agents of SHIELD Season 3.

Maximus is more than okay with killing Inhumans if it meant he could control the remainder, so I think it makes sense that, after The Terrigen Crisis, Maximus would stoke the flames of conflict by having a group that specifically could hunt down Inhumans by knowing where they were and what they could do, all while being backed by an unlimited resource.

This is something Maximus has done before, with the Inhuman research facility experimenting on powerful Inhumans to figure out if any of them could kill Black Bolt. He donated millions of dollars anonymously for the sake of his manipulation plan, and The Watchdogs were a much more violent and threatening aspect of that that would stand Inhumans to want to go to war with humanity, which was Maximus’s endgame of claiming the Earth for the Inhumans.

Thematically, this also ties many of the non-HYDRA threads of The Inhuman Saga together, bringing it all back to Maximus as a main villain pulling strings behind everyone’s back.

u/Altruistic_Yak_1514 — 11 hours ago

Vanessa had a child during seasons 2 and 3 of Daredevil.

With the theories that Daniel was Fisk's son, I ended up with the character stuck in my head, and I thought, could Vanessa have already had a child with Wilson? And the time period that would work is when Fisk was arrested and Vanessa was sent abroad, she discovered she was pregnant, but preferred to hide the child so that he wouldn't risk his father's life, at least during his childhood.

From here on, there may be spoilers for episode 4 of season 2 of Born Again. What if, after the events of the last episode, at the end of the season Fisk discovers him, who would be around 11 years old, and brings him to train him to be his successor? Something that could refute this is Vanessa's statement in episode 3 suggesting that they should have a successor. Why would she say that if she already has a son? Perhaps she's actually trying to prepare Fisk to introduce their son, which she might think would be the ideal moment, since she was afraid of dying to Bullseye and believed it was better to introduce him to his father before that happened.

That's the theory, and what do I think? I think I'm wrong, hahaha. I thought about it, and if it's well-developed, it could be a good way to introduce Richard Fisk and show his training until he becomes Rose, but I don't think it will happen. And that statement from Vanessa that I mentioned makes it even more improbable, not to mention that it would be very difficult for her to have hidden this all this time. But it's something interesting to think about.

u/FullMarionberry8065 — 9 hours ago

Thanos Vs Hulk infinity war alternate

I was thinking about how in the comics thanos made a pet of the hulk. And how many people were upset by the way the fight went.

So I had a way to change the fight to maybe please hulk fans but also show thanos power.

The fight basically goes how it does thanos no diffs hulk but the fight last longer hulk can’t land a hit but thanos can’t put hulk down either. Thanos gets kind of agitated and how long hulk is staying up and the only way thanos can’t put actually end the fight is using the power stone.

This way it shows thanos is formidable, hulk doesn’t look so weak because even though thanos has the battle IQ and prowess to best hulk he doesn’t have the strength to over power him.

Just curious if something like this would please those hulk fans

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u/Adrean1029 — 19 hours ago

What if the reason the story of The Other is being adapted in Brand New Day is to prepare him for Doomsday?

If we decide to take the Easter drawing as confirmation that Holland will be in Doomsday, we'd have to ask why, since he's currently in a street setting.

Well... isn't it curious that of all the stories they could have adapted, they're choosing The Other? The story that reveals Peter has a connection to a mystical entity and that later reveals it also has multiversal reach.

This is part of the era that introduced the theme of spider-totems and was a prelude to Spider-Verse, which theorized that a great evil would terrorize the multiverse.

If we take certain reports as true, supposedly Sony absolutely wanted a multiversal element in the film. Originally, it was going to be some connection with the SSU, but since that fell through, nothing more was ever heard of it. What if, in the end, that multiversal element is The Other?

That way, Marvel gets its street story, and at the same time, Sony gets its multiversal story without having to rely on fanservice.

P.S.: To further support this theory, the idea that Spider-Queen is one of the most likely villains in the film would be even more plausible because the Queen has her own comic book series in Battleworld, ruling Spider-Island and an army of Man-Spiders.

u/Altruistic_Eye_1157 — 12 hours ago

Jazz Club redux?

Will we be lucky enough to get another 25 minute song and dance routine in the Jazz club @BND?

u/retannevs1 — 15 hours ago

Doomsday X-Men

Does anyone have any theory of what X-Men will appear in Doomsday? Will it be the old trilogy ones bc of the OG mystique actress, or will it be the (messy) resetted timeline. Or just a separate, random one that looks like it.

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u/NeighborhoodFar8222 — 16 hours ago
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