r/IntelArcPro

I bought the B70 Pro and asked a friend carry to carry it overseas for me as it's not available where I live. My main goal is to use it for local AI projects within my proxmox/container server (also Intel)

However, I'm reading through a lot of posts and am genuinely concerned that I may have gotten myself into the wrong hardware. I'm computer savy, coding and and linux but have never toyed with graphics cards and such.

Did I make a mistake?
Will this card be able to run local Qwen 27B models or similar?
How about video generation?

Will I forever be stuck in a loop of finding ported models, slimmed down environments that are for Intel cards, etc?

Please help. I've got 2 days to decide to keep it or return

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u/Staplegun58 — 6 days ago
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I'm doing research on where Intel Arc (Discrete) is headed. I'm also an INTC shareholder, voting is coming up. I'm working on registering my business for technical documentation. I have a C Corp.

I'm not finding much information for future Discrete Arc offerings, the only thing I've found is an AI monster with 160 GB of VRAM. Probably a $5000 card?

The AI stack for Arc needs an enormous amount of work and Intel has shuttered its doors for Open Source Evangelism, leaving only the Intel Discord and maybe a few other avenues, but I have not found much.

If The Lip only releases a $5000 AI Goliath where does that leave oneAPI development, XeSS, Game and Pro drivers? Will I get support for my B70 and all my Battlemage / Alchemist cards?

Will they pull Game Ready driver support for Intel Arc Pro cards?

I feel like too much fat is being cut and I realize the industry is upside down right now but if Intel turns its back on DIY and gamers, what will it have? It could be three years or more before we get another discrete GPU that people can afford. We should be asking Intel what their plans are. The US government has invested 10% in to INTC and AI is taking jobs away. Through the CHIPS and Science Act of 2022, INTC received billions of dollars. The RAM Apocalypse is a scam and most of the data centers will not be built, no one wants or needs the hyper-scalers.

I'm already running open source AI models through ollama. In addition I'm building an open source AI Anomaly Detector for residences and mom and pop shops. I am also trying to get down to DC so I can make sense of things.

oneAPI could eventually dominate the market, it is competing with CUDA - gamers and developers need affordable options.

My long term goal is to continue to build out my Home Lab and eventually make my own GPU - in the end that is the only option that seems real to me. I will get there if I live another ten years, the critics / cynics will be ignored. Intel has to do better at communicating with the public. Tom Peterson seems to be the only evangelist Intel has?

Is anyone interested in doing an online movement that shows there is demand for affordable Intel Arc (Discrete) GPUs. There is also a movement in the industry towards powerful APUs and iGPUs in micro-servers and I'm going to look into running discrete GPUs on mac miniz and stuff like that. I don't want to see discrete GPUs die and if they do die, I will resurrect them. Maybe it will just be a handful of people by then...

Epic Games has pulled support for Hardware Ray Tracing for Intel Arc and Amd Radeon, making the Nvidia Geforce monopoly stronger. AI workflows are supposed to make supporting multiple platforms easier but the industry is imploding now. Corporations have too much power and monopolies need to be dealt with.

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u/quantum3ntanglement — 6 days ago