r/Idaho4Coverup

I find it slightly weird and I’m careful with my verbiage because I know I am not in the situation however. I commented some very strong points on one of the goncalves post in the family page about the glove bracelet and red hair. This is on a post where EVERYONE and I do mean that was like “why have you as the family pushed for further investigation” and Kayley’s mom deleted me and the comment. Is this weird or they are just sick of people like us?

You guys know how recently it came out Dylan’s Apple Watch showed she made a ton of steps and whatever whatever? I have a question. Why isn’t she wearing an Apple Watch in any body cam footage that morning? Do we think they may have gotten things wrong? I wonder if Dylan called everyone at the time she did not because she was scared but instead because they needed to figure out where the phones were after the fact. Seems like they didn’t put the phones back in the right places after they attempted to create alibis. 🤔 Also,
I think it was kaylees watch not Dylan’s. 🤷🏼‍♀️ look into the evidence logs. Wild.

Btw I saw some of this on TikTok, @phoenix_talks . I want to be transparent and I want yall to know where I’m getting my info from so if there’s an issue I’m aware! I appreciate honest feedback 🙌🏼

Okay, so, how reliable is the book? How does he know this stuff? Where did he get all those files and unredacted ones? How can we know that he isn’t just seeking attention and money. And lie about stuff.

I’m naturally suspicious person but also really naive. Don’t jump at me. I just wanted to know if I listen this as a “fact” or not fact but that he’s telling the truth on his pov. From what he has seen and read etc.

Delete this if it’s not appropriate to put here or whatever 😅🙏🏼 thank youuuu and sorry.

Can someone tell me please how Alex Murdaugh’s conviction is being OVERTURNED!

Yet BK, who has proof he didn’t get a fair trial, sitting in prison! Nice

I’m really curious to see others opinions on what you think actually happened that night and how the events turned out the way they did, who was involved etc etc. Gimme your thoughts!

If so does anyone have it?

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●Who was being followed for a surreptitious DNA sample on November 14-15, before any FIGG results?

●Why did the sheath test positive for blood on November 17 but this was never publicly disclosed? Why choose trace skin cells over Blood?

●Why was a blood reference reclassified on November 19?

●When exactly were the KRB buccal swabs collected that are dated December 28, but Kohberger was not arrested until December 30?

●How could trash collected in Pennsylvania on December 27 produce a verified paternity match at an Idaho lab on December 28?

THE ACTUAL PROCESS:

•Physical transport of trash from eastern Pennsylvania to Idaho (minimum overnight air freight)

•Receipt, logging, and inventory of multiple trash items

•Selection and swabbing of appropriate samples

•Presumptive biological testing

•DNA extraction

•qPCR quantitative analysis

•STR amplification (thermal cycling: approximately 3 hours minimum)

•Capillary electrophoresis on the 3130 analyzer

•GeneMapper profile analysis

•Popstats parentage comparison

•Signed final report under penalty of perjury

Forensic laboratories process rush samples in three to five business days minimum. This sequence cannot be completed in 24–36 hours under standard conditions, suggesting either: the lab had advance preparation with materials positioned before December 27, the DNA used was already in Idaho's possession before the claimed collection date, or the December 27 trash collection is not when the relevant biological material was actually obtained.

●What happened to all four buccal swabs collected under the Pennsylvania search warrant? FOUR WERE COLLECTED, NOT TWO.

●Why did Idaho need a second warrant for additional buccal swabs on January 5 if the Pennsylvania swabs produced a usable match?

●Is Q1.1 — the profile used in the parentage comparison — actually a mixture from multiple contributors, as indicated by three alleles at 11 genetic locations?

●Was the Q1.1 profile interpreted before or after analysts were shown Kohberger's known DNA profile? (The raw data that would answer this was never fully disclosed.)

●Why does the arrest warrant cite the Hispanic population statistics — the lowest of three groups — with no explanation?

●Were both profiles in the Popstats comparison entered by manual keyboard input, and if so, were they verified against the raw electropherogram data?

●Who are Unknown Male B (blood on handrail) and Unknown Male D (blood on gloves outside), and why was the decision made not to pursue their profiles?

●Who does the hair from Ethan Chapins hand, (purposely recorded as debris) and the hair found still stuck to the bedframe 2+ years later belong to and why was the decision made to not pursue their profile?

●Who does the additional hair in images from Xanas Bedroom, and the hair found on Madison Mogens bed(with bloody roots still attached) belong to and why was the decision made to not pursue their profile?

●Is S87.1 the original button snap swab or the December 5 re-swab from inside the blade — and if the latter, why was evidence collected after the suspect was identified used as the basis for the parentage comparison?

●The defense noted the snap itself may not have been swabbed at all, and the defense has no ability to retest due to fingerprint processing. Was the DNA ever actually from the button snap as publicly described?

●Kohberger was excluded as a contributor to the DNA mixture found on Madison Mogen's BODY(documents were previously presented to the public as DNA found under Mogen's nails/ later reports label same DNA as DNA from her body. We were told its a 4 person mixture and they will not exclude Madison and Kaylee from the mix and that 1 of the people from the mix was a male and Kohberger was excluded. Whose DNA is on her and why was that unknown male and female never identified?

● Following the arrest of Kohberger, Stacy Chapin expressed she is "forever indebted" to the Othram team for their analysis of the DNA evidence on the knife sheath, which she believes was critical in linking Kohberger to the murders of her son and three others.  Early in the investigation, Chapin had a chance meeting with Othram executives (the Mittelmans) at CrimeCon in 2023. During a time of immense pain, she says this meeting provided her with a sense of security and certainty. Since that meeting, Stacy Chapin has been working with Othram to ensure that law enforcement agencies nationwide have access to advanced DNA testing. She at one point highlighted that traditional, DNA systems do not always work, and that Othram's, which uses forensic genetic genealogy, is superior for identifying suspects in cold cases. (OH REALLY??) Chapin has since then visited Othram's facility in The Woodlands, Texas, to further understand their work, referring to it as the "most advanced forensic DNA testing facility in the world".  Stacy Chapin is actively using her platform to help other families facing similar tragedies get answers sooner by championing the technology that she believes is critical for modern justice. In her own statement she admits that Forensic Genetic Geneology is superior for identifying suspects in cold cases.  This is true because in hot cases, the urgency to make an arrest can pressure investigators to over-rely on a genealogical lead before it's fully verified. (The problem at hand here) Cold cases allow for methodical, deliberate investigation without that pressure, (To have a suspect before the new year to be sure students returned and they didnt lose student enrollment or incoming tuition) reducing the risk of wrongful accusations. Most democratic nations impose far stricter limits than the U.S. when it comes to use of FGG in a hot case.

See breakdown below:

🇬🇧 United Kingdom

FGG not formally permitted; governed by strict GDPR and the Forensic Science Regulator. Consumer DNA databases largely off-limits to law enforcement.

🇩🇪 Germany

Heavily restricted under GDPR and national privacy law (Grundgesetz). DNA use limited to narrow forensic profiles only.

🇫🇷 France

FGG effectively prohibited; stringent data protection laws bar police access to consumer genealogy databases.

🇨🇦 Canada

No formal legal framework authorizing FGG; used very rarely and with significant legal uncertainty.

🇦🇺 Australia

No clear authorization; some debate but largely unused due to privacy legislation.

🇳🇱 Netherlands

GDPR compliance makes FGG extremely difficult; limited pilot discussions only.

🇺🇸 United States

Most permissive — FGG is legal but regulated at the state level. Many states require it be limited to violent felonies and unidentified remains, effectively steering it toward cold cases only as a last resort.

In Stacy's own statement she will be using her platform to advocate for other families...why not advocate for your own? Why advocate for a method that was fabricated, abused and considered the most fragile piece of evidence in the case that the State Prosecutor hid purposely knowing he knew if the truth was revealed, the world would see how corrupt the Idaho Judicial System is?  If you are now very closely knit with big time forensic labs and you are pushing for families to have justice when they lose a loved one, why not start by fighting the State of Idaho to test that hair found in your son's hand at the time of his murder?

●In May 2026, the Goncalves family introduced their new non-profit that they have created in memory of their own daughter, Kaylee.  Their mission statement on their website states the following

"Murder Has a Name was created from a simple truth: every crime has an identity, and every victim deserves answers. An unsolved case is not an unsolvable one. It means we must work harder and smarter, using the newest science, technology, and investigative approaches available. Yesterday’s techniques cannot remain the only tools we rely on today. Our foundation exists to push progress forward, bringing modern forensic methods to cases once thought beyond reach and reminding families that hope does not expire. We are committed to expanding access to advanced forensic DNA technology, investigative resources, and critical case funding so that victims are never forgotten and families are not left without options. Through innovation, advocacy, and action, we work to ensure that every case has the opportunity to be reexamined, every name is honored, and every path to justice is pursued. Every victim has a name. Every family deserves answers. Every case deserves the chance to be solved."

If you stand by your mission statement, why not start with the very case that involves your own daughter? Why not begin with Unknown Male B, Unknown Male D, Unknown Male from Mogens Body, Unknown Female from Mogens body, Unknown hair sample from Ethans hand, Unknown hair sample from Mogens bedroom?