
So black cleaver is now a dead item on graves
All because of death fire touch

All because of death fire touch
i mean not every game but most of the graves game i have played with both as my teammate and enemy, hes always so fed, one shotting everybody and his cs is so high, he get full item very quick and he also can build hybrid lethality and crit build, idk maybe he is just broken, i'm not even a jg main but he is my perma ban for like 6 months now, i would rather get lane bullied by enemy counter pick my main champ than let enemy picking graves with 26 kills 3 deaths, full item at 28 min and have 300 cs.
why does all graves players perma ult to ks kills of laners in lane and perma takes laners waves when graves'jungle is up ?...... am i missing something
graves one tricked to plat hoping i can hit higher, anybody got tips for getting through plat/can i get through plat w my current performance?
Which one do you guys prefer and why?
im a jungle 1 trick, when i see people play graves it looks so much fun and i have had some crazy games on him but the 1 thing that is annoying the shitttt out of me is his farm!!
how do you farm optimally on graves? i try looking for guides but no one explains how to farm optimally on him only other things, what i need help with is your early clears on camps with multiple enemies like krugs, wolves and chickens.
how do u poistion urself and do u only aim to hit the big one or what do u do? >:/
sometimes ive gotten so annoyed simply from the way u farm on graves i stop playing the champ only because of how annoying he is to farm with.
appreciate the help ,thx.
edit: ALSO, is graves THE most useless champ in the game if not ultra fed? i feel like u have to be ultra super duper fed or else useless, nothing inbetween.
Does provide insane catch potential with w. Since the w will slow plus proc your fleet and stormrazor.
Also voltaic + stormrazor speeds up the clear with the energised procs.
Is weird, i remember when Arfreezy did recommend it for it reposition potencial. Now what do i have to buy first if i wanna go full crit? fking collector?
R - Duplex trigger (consumes both shells)
Graves fires both barrels of his shotgun at the same time, dealing heavy damage in a cone in front of him. Enemies hit by the blast take heavy Physical damage and are knocked back (displacement). If an enemy hits a wall, they take increased damage, are stunned for 0.5 seconds, and have their armour reduced by (20%/30%/40%) for 5 seconds.
No longer knocks him back, forces graves into a reload, and behaves a bit like Briar E/Qiana Ult. Can either be used as a r+flash team fight engage or ambush ability, or as an escape to get a diver off of you.
What do you guys think - i feel his current ult kinda doesn't fit his kit, or his weapon...
basically title. recently had a game where i was playing Graves vs Lee and wasn't sure if i could beat him 1v1 at crab so i pathed to the opposite side. Does Graves win/lose or is it just skill and stacks doesn't really matter in this scenario?
I had a few games yesterday and I took some early fights I really felt like I should have won.
I thought khazix on there red buff (we were both like 75% to first item) . I was not isolated and he killed me.
Second was fighting a 30% hp riven she had Doran’s blade and I had nothing (after first clear). And she killed me. I wasn’t annoyed at her damage just that I was literally tickling her.
Am I doing something wrong?
I've been seeing people match history and they still building hubris, Im trying to avoid using the item but it seem it still good I guess?
I feel as if it’s not a well designed ability , it’s really strong and has a lot of his power budget but it also doesn’t feel impactful to use as the graves player.
So you have this situation where it really annoying to get hit by but also not satisfying to use as the graves player since you can’t see the effect happening.
Maybe they could get rid of the nearsight and make it a silence + slow whilst inside of it, also giving it the ability to create vision(like a jarvan flag)
The problem with silence+slow is that you gonna get deported by adc’s , but silence+blind+slow sounds a bit broken. Maybe it silence+slow while your in it and blinds you for your next auto only
Like I understand u stay alive longer, but with crit u literally get more shells. Pls convince me and what items are needed for bruiser plss
Is there anything we need to know that affect graves in this patch??
For example: Is Hubris as viable?? Should we do Hubris first item? Is viable ?
considering phase rush used to be viable - has anyone tried the new rune?
Been trying to play graves mid again but my issue is graves mana cost and also I don't like building essence that much the item seem ain't that strong imo, idk if I should buy as 2nd or 3rd item? I been thinking going tear instead