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Hello I'm taking a gd&t class I I don't understand any of it and was wondering if someone could help me

I'm taking a gdnt class and I have no idea what I am doing and was wondering if someone could walk me through it and help me understand why

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u/W-ray-TH_attck-mode — 20 days ago

Question regarding Datum Symbol Placement

In 6 . 3 . 2 . 1 (it kept trying to make it a link) where it talks about the placement of the Datum Feature Symbol, it says:

>(b) placed on an extension line of the feature outline clearly separated from the dimension line, when the datum feature is the surface itself.

However, it goes on in a later paragraph to say:

>(d) placed on the dimension line or an extension of the dimension line of a feature of size when the datum is an axis or center plane. (Figure 6.4, illustrations (a) through (c). 

>(e) placed on the outline of a cylindrical feature surface or an extension line of the feature outline, separated from the size dimension, when the datum is an axis.  (Figure 6.4, illustration (e) and (g).

https://preview.redd.it/swy14bs7lztg1.png?width=621&format=png&auto=webp&s=6b70fa983bfa65ca6bee9db0fd3aeaf4591cf3ff

In the images, all the examples show the Datum Feature Symbol in line with the dimension, but does it mean something different if it's not when the part is round?  I am curious if there is a distinction.

In other words, in this first example, my understanding is that Datum A is the center plane of the part, and Datum B is the bottom surface (but I believe this is only correct because the part is square):

https://preview.redd.it/iczstas7lztg1.png?width=934&format=png&auto=webp&s=df402e06fe6a4840b4f9a36e1db40542e9fce004

This is because 6.4 (b) says "placed on an extension line of the feature outline clearly separated from the dimension line" which makes the Datum "the surface itself", which Datum B in this case clearly is.

However, is that true when the part is round?  In this scenario, there isn't really a surface for B to be (unless it's a tangent plane or something).  I interpret this as "placed on the outline of a cylindrical feature surface or an extension line of the feature outline when the datum is an axis" and therefore, when I read this, I interpret Datum A and Datum B to be referencing the same thing in this instance; i.e. the center axis of this part.

https://preview.redd.it/9w4a0bs7lztg1.png?width=944&format=png&auto=webp&s=761b88f3a1ccc9e3fac02d05ed187b05b6a0b498

This is because 6.4 (e) says "placed on the outline of a cylindrical feature surface or an extension line of the feature outline, separated from the size dimension, when the datum is an axis."

Basically, my question is this: In the screenshot above of the round part, does it mean the same thing if I do A or B?

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u/Typical-Priority1976 — 15 days ago

GD&T Jobs

hey there

I'd like to open the discussion about the GD&T and GPS jobs opportunity

currently working for a car manufacturer as an engineer but I am not able to apply my expertise in GD&T.

sometimes to pass the time I check the status of the drawing, to see if I am still good with it, if I'm still able to read and understand a drawing. long story short, yes I am

fellow GD& T experts and fans, do you have similar situations in your companies?

do you see bad quality on the drawings but you're blocked/stopped to fix it and to improve it?

I'd like to see your point of view

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u/EveningConstruction5 — 24 days ago

How to capture this in GD&T

So the question is this:

I have a roller with a certain diameter dimension, which is not too critical itself.

However, it is important that the diameter is pretty much identical all along the roller's length.

So the centerline does not have to be very straight, as long as the part is not concave or convex.

This is an ISO drawing, so independency applies. Which means I could achieve the needed form with a very strict diameter dimension, however that is not needed and could quickly increase the price of the part.

See also the amazing illustration I added.

u/ILikeBoobsAMA — 1 month ago