r/DragonBallPowerScale

First rule of Popo's training.....

Super Is Good Asf Don’t Get Me Wrong , But sometimes I think they dropped the ball on reviving frieza instead of cell. super hero movie massacred my boy and gave gohan and piccolo ass pull transformations they didn’t deserve.

In Movie 13, Toei was treating the Ultimate form as something Gohan powers up into. Yet in GT despite Gohan supposedly keeping up his training we never see him do so.

So I posted a post in the powerscaling sub and I put Kaguya higher than Raditz and Nappa, some disagree so I stated my reasoning:

1. Kaguya is immortal and can regenerate

2. She can survive in space due to her being an Otsutsuki

3. She has a one shot ability in Ash Bones

4. She can instantly BFR with Amenominaka

5. Potentially have higher scaling if you consider Star or solar system level Kaguya real since she scales far above characters like Juubito who has planet level statements by absorbing the Juubi and the Sword of Nunoboku

This is ignoring how arrogant Raditz and Nappa are btw, they in character would absolutely try to tank Ash Bones. What do you guys think about this?

If end of Frieza Saga Goku & Vegeta fused, then stacked Kaioken and fought Cell who would win? No Super Saiyan

Where does he scale if you throw him into the main continuity? How far does he go in the Buu saga

We know he’s higher than SS2 level at the bare minimum

Yes, it destroyed planets and a star with absolute ease. And it's only their punches travelling casually.

The Gogeta vs Super post really lit up this subreddit so it's only right I take a Super character and compare them to GT. We all know the Cabba vs SSJ4 Gogeta meme, but I think this brings about a good question regarding scaling in Super vs GT. Just how far does Cabba make it? Does he truly solo all of GT or can one of these characters bring him down?🤔

Since the future Androids were weaker than the present day ones.

Would anyone below SS2 Gohan have been able to defeat a hypothetical Future Perfect Cell?

From top to bottom. No Broly glazing please and be rational here. Broly second coming vs this move gauntlet

R1) doesn’t have his guard and is grinning like a idiot laughing

R2) Broly has his guard up

Moves:

IT Kamehameha, Cell self destruct, final explosion, and candy beam (If Broly can still move like Vegito if he was a candy)

R1: Gohan vs Kyle

R2: Xeno Gohan vs Kyle

This Goku seems to be functionally a force ghost. He can completely tank attacks from Omega Shenron in his "base" form, can will himself into existence, is immortal, can seemingly grant wishes, and has some varying amount of tangiblity. Plus this is Goku we're talking about. He was definitely doing some type of training in those 100 years that passed between him merging with the dragon balls and speaking with Goku Jr.

I think he gets to Jiren before he's defeated as Super's powerscaling out paces GT by the time the ToP takes place. What do you guys think?

Putting the idea of it being “retconned” to permanent rest it seems.