r/DiscordAlternatives

We are currently building an alternative to discord

Hi y'all,

We are a team of two devs (both around 10 years of experience) who somehow stumbled into creating an alternative for discord.

Why: We are actually building a big MMO game and for this we had to build a voice engine. This POC has quickly turned into our everyday communication "hub" and we're now expanding it to support many use cases discord supports, merely because we're sick and tired of the way discord handles our data.

What we can already do: We support guilds, channels and text based messages. Thats the easy part 😄.

Additionally were supporting real time voice communications via WebRTC and cloudflare's SFU edge network. Quite cool tech tbh! The whole client runs on top of tauri (cross plattform js framework) where we can build the client in angular (don't judge me, I'm influenced heavily by enterprise software) and have a small part of the code running in rust. That includes mainly the stream sourcing code (like voice, screen share, webcam, you name it). The whole guild (will) come with a whole bunch of mod tools to make everyones live easier. Currently we have a basic permission system implemented, but we'll expand on this functionality.

Our plan for it: Tbh, currently we're primarely looking if this is something someone wants and thats the whole reason i'm posting here. My dream goal would be, to get this out and make a bit of money on that to cross fund our game development.

For the opensource and self host fans: Once we have a stable code base and a stable client with most of the functionality implemented, we're happily moving this to be source available and thus self hostable. No decision yet on going full on open source with it, but we can consider it. Altough I have to admit that self hosting will be a technical challenge at least in the beginning, there are around 5 microservices running with redis, postgres, scylla and rabbitmq.

Anyway, feedback welcome!

PS: As the question will come up, yes we have used AI. Altough to clarify, the only "vibe coded" part of the product is the ui layer of the client. We're both backend devs, and admittely the AI ui looks better than what I could have ever crafted. 😃

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u/Time_Party_2615 — 7 days ago

We all know that Discord has never shipped E2EE, and privacy incidents keep stacking up. And even Instagram is removing E2EE on May 8. Other alternatives exist. Some, like Fluxer, are solid but ultimately Discord clones with E2EE still sitting on a roadmap. Others, like Matrix, take privacy seriously but lack the community tooling that makes a platform worth running a server on.

We are not picking one or the other.

We did not launch Fenrid and plan to add E2EE later. We delayed the launch and built E2EE into the foundation first. It runs quietly in the background. What you see up front is a full community platform: events, giveaways, nested voice, creator tools, analytics, and more.


Demo video is included. Covers server creation, rich text editor, voice channels, and screen share for now.


What is shipped:

Voice E2EE. Room key derived entirely in your browser from the channel ID using PBKDF2. LiveKit routes the encrypted frames and cannot read your audio.

DM E2EE. AES-256-GCM, encrypted in the browser. Keys never leave your device. Pure ECIES encryption.

File Attachment E2EE. Files are encrypted locally before upload. Cloudflare R2 stores opaque blobs, no preview available. Even with direct storage access, the content is unreadable.

ML Noise Suppression. DeepFilterNet3 running locally via WebAssembly. Raw audio never leaves your device.


And not just encryption:

Privacy is the foundation. But Fenrid is built for communities to actually use.

Rich Text Editor. Markdown and Rich Text modes, code blocks with syntax highlighting, inline tables with CSV export and Copy Markdown, @mentions, spoilers.

Native Events. Application forms, attendance tracking, discovery ranking. No Google Forms, no bots, no spreadsheets.

Native Giveaways. Once 10 participants join, the prize terms are permanently locked. Hosts cannot change what you signed up for after you entered.

Nested Voice Channels with Broadcast Mode. Create a main channel with sub-channels underneath. Members stay in their own rooms, but the organizer can speak to all of them simultaneously. For anyone who misses Guilded's structure, this is the closest thing.

Shared Channels. Two servers can establish a partnership and bridge a specific channel so messages sync across both communities in real-time. Smaller servers can collaborate without merging.


Q: How do you handle CSAM on an encrypted platform?

Public servers: PhotoDNA hash matching on every upload, checked against known databases before the file propagates.

Encrypted DMs: content scanning is not technically possible without breaking the encryption, and we are not doing that. If a user encounters illegal content, they can report it directly. Our safety team handles it from there. Privacy and safety coexist here, they just require honest architecture rather than backdoors.


Private Alpha is late May. 100 spots total.

Find bugs, help stress test the platform, and earn a permanent Bug Hunter badge on your profile. It does not expire and it does not go away. A lifetime flex on your profile for being here first.

Last 10 spots for a free lifetime Flare subscription ($9.99/mo): discord.gg/vMmNRg2bRw Until Fenrid is live and has its own home, that is where we are building it. Come hang out.

Waitlist: fenrid.com

Happy to answer questions about the architecture.

u/roxter01 — 8 days ago

Tavrn - we just hit public beta

Hey,

So I got fed up with where Discord was heading and just... started building something.

That was December 2024. It's now May 2026. We went from an idea to public beta in a year and I'm genuinely shocked we got here this fast.

https://preview.redd.it/lksbgnybe80h1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=09ac286ec02d366f6790460db9098c1f7745e9e8

Here's what Tavrn actually is:

Servers, channels, voice/video calls, DMs, custom emojis, moderation tools, the whole thing. But built from the ground up with privacy actually in mind, not as a marketing line, as a genuine product decision.

No face scans. No ID uploads. No behavioral AI running in the background deciding if you're an adult. No data selling. Ever.

What makes us different:

  • Free tier is fully functional and we're never changing that
  • Optional premium (Tavrn Cocoa, $4.99/month) for extras like GIF avatars, HD uploads, bigger calls
  • We've been in public beta since February 2026 and have shipped constantly since
  • One person building this (yes really)
  • Your feedback actually changes things

What we're still working on:

  • Native mobile apps (PWA works great for now)
  • More integrations
  • Expanding bot/developer tools

I'm not gonna pretend Tavrn is perfect. Things break. But we fix them fast and we're building in public which means you can actually watch this thing grow in real time.

Over a year of active development, 30+ builds shipped, and we're just getting started.

If you're genuinely looking for a Discord alternative, come check it out.

tavrn.top 🧡

Also feel free to check our history and fact-check me using our roadmap and blog site: blog.tavrn.top

Happy to answer literally anything in the comments, including hard questions about missing features, the roadmap, or why I thought building a chat platform alone was a good idea (it wasn't but here we are)

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u/PinEffective7786 — 5 days ago

Hey! I've been working on Zeeble, a self-hostable Discord-style chat platform that you actually own and control.

I built it because I got tired of bloated, over-moderated platforms with constant limitations on what you can do. The Zeeble client uses 10MB max. Some alternatives use 300-500MB.

**What's working right now:**

- Servers, channels, direct messaging and friends

- Self-hosting with full control over your data

- Managed cloud servers coming soon

**Coming in the next update:**

Texture packs, custom emoji, stickers, GIF and animation packs, a community server list, and more.

Still early days but the core experience is solid. Would love some early users to try it out and tell me what they think!

https://github.com/ZeebleChat

https://zeeble.xyz

u/caybertime — 8 days ago

Hollow - native desktop app, signed messages, full E2EE (Olm+MLS+SFrame), zero accounts, only local data and MORE

Hey everyone! I want to introduce you to Hollow, a completely different chatting app from anything else on the market. For a full project overview, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND watching my YT video here: https://youtu.be/qsXc-hJizsQ I explain literally everything the project has to offer in (almost) simple words, but I'll list some stuff here too.

The app is native because it's written in Flutter (Dart) and Rust, so it's compiled and doesn't have any runtimes like Node.js or Electron. An account in Hollow is just your Ed25519 key with Bip-39 mnemonic (24 words like crypto wallets) and you can export your entire identity with data into a simple .hollow file and import on first app launch.

Hollow is fully distributed, which means that members collectively host ALL data within their servers. The owner cannot destroy any messages because they're automatically synced using CRDTs and saved between people in their own locally stored, encrypted SQLite database (only you with your key have access to it). I went even further because all messages are cryptographically signed with your key, so nobody can fake messages with stupid screenshots. You can easily check if the signature is correct using the built-in tool under the Security tab in Settings.

Direct Messages are encrypted with Olm (Double Ratchet, same protocol as Matrix), servers use MLS (RFC 9420; the most modern protocol for scaling in large servers; Matrix doesn't even have it fully implemented yet), all audio/video/screen sharing is encrypted with SFrame (also a modern protocol, but specifically for media - RFC 9605). Again, it's ALREADY implemented in Hollow!

You might wonder... How are messages exchanged? My open-source relay server is the only infrastructure (stores nothing, sees only encrypted noise) that handles simple WebSocket connections. It uses uWebSockets (C++), so my ~$8/mo VPS can easily handle up to *~572k connections!* I rewrote it from Rust to C++, so this is probably one of the cheapest $/user/mo float any messaging app can have. TLS is terminated at the relay, so network observers can't see metadata like who's talking to whom or message timing.

The app is in public alpha release. Currently only on Windows, with MacOS/Linux support coming soon. You can download it for free from my website https://anonlisten.com/ Auto-updater is included!

A third-party security audit is planned before the actual release (specifically the OTF Security Lab, you can google it). If you have questions, then don't hesitate to ask. I'll answer everything! Thank you so much for reading and take care!

Relay repo: https://github.com/VitalikPro13/hollow-relay

Technical Whitepaper: https://github.com/VitalikPro13/hollow-relay/blob/main/WHITEPAPER.md

*raw connections, not counting TURN fallback.

u/VitalikPro13 — 7 days ago
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Nexoria.chat: encrypted Discord alternative with subservers, calls, built-in TTRPG tools, music sharing, and screenshare

Hi everyone, we’re the team building Nexoria, a Discord alternative focused on privacy, better organization, and built-in community tools.

A big feature we recently added is subservers, similar in spirit to Guilded’s old server-group system. A main server can contain multiple subservers, and each subserver has its own channels, tools, permissions, and organization while still staying under the same larger community.

Nexoria also includes:

  • Encrypted servers
  • Text channels
  • Calls
  • Screenshare
  • Music sharing / native music bot features
  • Public servers for discovery
  • Subservers for better organization
  • Built-in tools so communities do not need to rely as heavily on bots

We started with a strong focus on TTRPG communities, so Nexoria also has built-in features like:

  • Dice rolling
  • Shared session notes
  • Drawable maps
  • D&D-style character sheets
  • Campaign organization tools

The goal is not just to clone Discord, but to build something more organized and useful for communities that need more than endless categories, channels, and bots.

We’re still early and actively building based on feedback, so we’d genuinely like to hear from people who have tried Discord alternatives, miss Guilded-style organization, or feel like Discord does not work well for larger or more structured communities.

You can check it out here:

https://nexoria.chat

Happy to answer questions, hear criticism, or get suggestions for what you think a Discord alternative needs to get right.

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u/Nexoria_Official — 7 days ago

We need to talk about the elephant in the room

I think we all were super excited when the first, nice-looking Discord alternatives/clones were popping up when Discord hit us with the Age verification shit. And I think some of them look pretty good, even if AI was involved. However.

This sub is absolutely filled to the brim with shitty, vibecoded hobby projects, we get daily "I build X the next Discord killer with E2E, unlimited streaming, bla bla" ads on them, people just post random changelogs of their apps on here EVEN THOUGH 95% of the people on here don't know shit about your app. Post it on Github or on your Website. Or in your App ffs. where you know - the 5 people who actually use your app may read about changes.

It sucks so much how much creativity got sucked out because everyone now thinks they can become the next Larry Page if they just prompt hard enough. I don't have anything against doing AI-assisted coding but man - it's tough to see how many apps are out there where the whole system logic is unminified with sourcemaps available on the production assets so we can see all endpoints, understand how responses get back from the server and what the client is doing with it 1:1 without any obfuscation, potentially opening you up for attacks - and in the end a few people MAY give their and their friends data over to some random vibecoder who doesn't know bumshit about security or how to store sensitive information in the right way.

So PLEASE. If you think about building yet another Discord killer, come up with a good concept. How about a decentralized system? Maybe try use the Matrix protocol, maybe go self-hosting first with a centralized client/web-app - there are so many options but please stop filling this space with uncreative, vibecoded shovelware that nobody needs.

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u/veculus — 23 hours ago