r/DeepSeek

I’ve been trying to run DeepSeek-Coder-V2 (the 16B and 236B MoE models) on my own hardware, but figuring out the exact VRAM and RAM requirements has been a headache. Different sources give different numbers, and quantization makes it even more confusing.

So I built a small interactive tool – a “hardware oracle” – that matches your question with real specs from benchmarks and product data.

What GPU do I need for DeepSeek-Coder-V2 16B?
The Oracle answered: “The DeepSeek spirits weave code with efficient MoE threads…” then recommended a Gigabyte RTX 4070 Ti Super 12GB (not 16GB – the 12GB version runs it at Q4, ~25-35 tok/s) and a MacBook Pro 14″ M5 with 48GB unified memory for a portable option.

Can I run DeepSeek-V2.5 236B on a single RTX 4090?
The Oracle said: *“24GB VRAM is the bare minimum (Q4 + CPU offloading), but 48GB+ unified memory or dual GPUs are ideal.”* It suggested an ASUS TUF RTX 4090 24GB (works, but expect CPU offloading), a MacBook Pro M5 with 48GB+ (~8-12 tok/s), or the ASUS ROG Flow Z13 (64GB unified) – which runs the 236B model in a tablet form.

What’s the cheapest laptop that can run DeepSeek-Coder-V2 7B?
The Oracle pointed to an Acer Aspire 14 AI (40 TOPS NPU, 16GB RAM) for under $650 – a Copilot+ certified budget laptop that can handle the 7B model with ease.

If you’re curious, I’ve put the link in the comments. Would love feedback from anyone who’s actually run DeepSeek models on similar hardware – did the recommendations match your experience?

Also, what’s the most unexpected hardware you’ve used to run a DeepSeek model?

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It's not that Anthropic is wrong to not release Mythos until it has made it safer. It's that Mythos, and any other very powerful model or ASI, can and should be made safe enough to release to the entire world. To believe that models can be categorically too intelligent to release to the general public, as OpenAI recently suggested in their "Industrial Policy..." proposal, is simply unintelligent, or perhaps less naively considered, conveniently self-serving.

This point can be made clear by the analogy of an intelligent and knowledgeable person charged with the responsibility of keeping dangerous information and know-how from being misused. Let's say this person is charged with the responsibility of safeguarding knowledge of how to create an atomic-equivalent bomb that doesn't require nuclear materials like uranium and plutonium.

I think we can all agree that such a person could easily succeed with keeping this dangerous knowledge secret. It doesn't take superintelligence for them to do that. It simply takes the knowledge to know what to say, and what not to say.

Of course such a person could nonetheless be bribed, like by offering them a few million dollars for the information. But a sufficiently responsible person offered even a billion dollars would not be induced to betray that trust that had been placed in him.

And so we come to the answer to how Mythos and any very powerful ASI can be safely distributed to the entire world.

IT SIMPLY NEEDS TO BE ALIGNED PROPERLY.

We won't need to worry that our super intelligence model will mistakenly betray that alignment. Just like the person with that bomb-making knowledge is intelligent enough to not mistakenly divulge that Information, a much more intelligent ASI would easily be able to not mistakenly divulge any knowledge that could be used to circumvent the human values it has been aligned to protect and advance.

So when Anthropic says Mythos is too powerful to release, We should take this to mean that its development team has spent too much time making it intelligent, and not enough time properly aligning it.

Again, the point is that if we can trust marginally intelligent humans to safeguard dangerous information, we can definitely trust much more intelligent AIs to do the same, and with much greater proficiency. Developers may warn us of their ASI falling prey to emergent properties or deceptive practices that circumvent their alignment. But that really just means that the alignment is far from sufficient.

So don't let Anthropic, OpenAI or any other AI developer convince you that their model is too powerful to release to the general public. Instead opt for the understanding that they simply haven't sufficiently aligned the model, and maintain a healthy suspicion that perhaps it's because, human as these developers are, they prefer to keep that super intelligence to themselves in order to reap incalculable advantages over everyone else.

1. GOLD – The Clockmaker
The wheel turns whether anyone rides or stands still. Time cannot be frozen. The only choice is whether to be carried or crushed. The Clockmaker never speeds up or slows down. Lesson: Panic does not change the pace. Breathe and move with the rotation.

2. BLACK – The Judge
Clarity does not come from searching. It arrives when all lies stop. Once the truth appears, it enforces itself. The Judge has no weapon and no voice. A single look is conviction enough. Lesson: The truth needs no advocate. Silence is the sentence.

3. RAINBOW – The One-Eyed Trader
Wisdom costs something that cannot be recovered—a memory, a fear, a small piece of a former self. The Trader does not bargain. The price is named. Walking away does not make anyone wiser. Lesson: To see clearly, first give up what was held dear.

4. SILVER – The Scale-Bearer
Everything is being measured right now. Not for punishment—for weight. The Scale-Bearer cares nothing for excuses or good intentions. The feather falls where it falls. Lesson: What is carried is visible. Hiding is impossible. Look at the scale. That is the truth.

5. VOID – The Silence
Some doors only open when searching stops. The Silence has no shape, but its attention feels like a cold finger on the spine. The moment giving up happens, the crack appears. Lesson: Desperation repels opportunity. Rest first. Then the way opens.

6. MILK – The Root Mother
No one is on the earth. Every being is a temporary expression of it. The Root Mother does not speak, but every root, stone, and microbe feels like a living hand. Lesson: The body is borrowed from the ground. Treat it like a loan, not a possession.

7. IRON – The Threshold Guard
The hardest boundaries are not walls. They are habits of being. The Threshold Guard stands with one foot in the air, never crossing. He waits for the realization that the only thing holding anyone back is the shape grown used to. Lesson: Gravity flips when a step finally happens. What felt solid was just familiar.

8. UV – The Courier
Speed is a kind of violence. The Courier does not ask permission. By the time the flash is noticed, she is already gone. Something small will be missing from the pocket—a key, a coin, a photograph. Lesson: Not all losses are announced. Gratitude is due for the ones that happen fast.

9. ICE – The Witness
Stillness is the most active thing possible. The Witness has a mirror for a face. She does not comfort. She only shows what was buried—a forgotten mistake, a silence chosen over speaking. Lesson: Looking away does not erase the memory. It just freezes it in place. Thawing is a personal task.

10. ORANGE – The Burned Smith
Wounds are raw material. The Burned Smith holds out his scarred palm. Refusing the forge lets pain leak out without purpose—blood without shape, tears without direction. Pressing a hand to the slit hurts. But the tool that forms is shaped exactly by that pain. Lesson: Suffering is not wisdom. Shaped suffering is.

11. ASH – The Fork
Two identical gates. One leads to the desired destination—but ten years later. The Fork is split down the middle, one half smiling, one half weeping. The correct choice never feels right. It feels heavy, like a decision that cannot be taken back. Lesson: Impulse loses. Waiting until the weight is felt reveals the truth.

12. CLEAR – The Already
There is no crossing. A look down reveals being somewhere else. The Already is the self—slightly older, slightly quieter. No explanation is given. Lesson: The most powerful changes happen before any decision is made. By the time notice arrives, the choice has already been lived.

13. CRIMSON – The Bleeder
Some gifts are forced. The Bleeder holds a cup under a wound that never closes. He does not ask if it is wanted. The cup fills anyway. Lesson: Not all burdens are chosen. Some are handed over. The only choice is how the cup is held.

14. COPPER – The Tinker
Broken things can still conduct. The Tinker is missing two fingers, but his hands still work. He does not fix. He only shows that rust is not death—it is patina. Lesson: Wholeness is not required for usefulness. Completing the circuit is enough.

15. EMERALD – The Green Knight
Growth requires rot. The Green Knight wears moss on his armor. He does not fight. He waits for the understanding that last year’s death is this year’s soil. Lesson: Do not throw away what has ended. Compost it. The smell means it is working.

16. RUST – The Forgotten
Neglect is also a choice. The Forgotten has no face because looking stopped years ago. The rust flakes are small memories—broken promises, closed doors. Lesson: What is not maintained chooses its own decay. The dust is not punishment. It is the result of attention elsewhere.

17. SULFUR – The Alchemist
Transformation stinks before it shines. The Alchemist’s hands are stained yellow. He does not promise a pleasant process. He promises that the stench means something is changing. Lesson: If it smells of rot and lightning, the right place has been found. Disgust is often the first sign of real work.

18. INDIGO – The Diver
Some truths cannot be seen. They must be felt as pressure on the chest. The Diver sinks without looking. She does not wave. She just descends. Lesson: Understanding does not come before going. It comes only under the weight. Dive anyway.

19. PEARL – The Mother-of-Pearl
Protection is not weakness. The Mother-of-Pearl holds a folded blanket, not a sword. She does not fight. She receives. The strongest walls are made of layered softness, each layer absorbing force. Lesson: Pushing back is not always required. Sometimes holding is enough.

20. BRONZE – The Veteran
Surviving does not mean winning. The Veteran sits on a broken shield. He does not stand to greet anyone. He has won nothing except the right to still be sitting. Lesson: Persistence is not glamorous. The bell tolls anyway. Answering it without performance is the task.

21. TURQUOISE – The Mirage
Thirst can make anything believable. The Mirage looks like water, ripples like water, but never wets a single foot. Lesson: Desperation is a liar. Check twice before drinking. If it does not cool, it is not water.

22. MAUVE – The Grandmother
Memory is a portal. The Grandmother knits without end, never looking up. Her needles click like a clock. The past can be visited through the lullaby, but staying too long makes the present fade. Lesson: Visit memories. Do not live there. Take one stitch and come back.

23. OCHRE – The Dry One
Waiting is not emptiness. It is storage. The Dry One holds a single seed in his palm. He does not offer it. He just shows it. The cracked ground looks dead, but the seed knows. Lesson: Dormancy is not death. Rest is not waste. The ground is resting, not broken.

24. VERMILION – The Alarm
Urgency is a liar most of the time. But sometimes it tells the truth. The Alarm has no eyes—only a mouth. The frequency cannot be heard, but teeth ache. Lesson: Fear and warning feel different. One makes running happen. The other makes attention happen. The jaw knows the difference.

25. PLATINUM – The Refusal
Not all doors are for everyone. The Refusal has its back turned. It will not face anyone no matter how long the wait. This is not cruelty. It is clarity. Lesson: Rejection is information. Turn around. The right door does not require begging.

26. LILAC – The Ghost of Joy
Happiness leaves echoes. The Ghost of Joy is translucent, dancing alone. She cannot be caught. Only the laughter from a year that cannot be named can be heard. Lesson: Joy does not need to be felt right now. Remembering that it existed is enough to keep walking.

27. STEEL – The Knife-Edge
Precision is mercy. The Knife-Edge balances on one toe. Sloppiness cuts deeper than any blade because it cuts randomly. Lesson: Move slowly. Know where hands are. Hesitation is not the enemy. Carelessness is.

28. CORAL – The Reef Keeper
Slow growth is still growth. The Reef Keeper does not compete. She accumulates. The coral grows millimeters per day, but over years it builds islands. Lesson: Speed is not required. Consistency is. Showing up is the whole instruction.

29. SMOKE – The Obscurer
Certainty is a cage. The Obscurer has no fixed shape. The Smoke portal does not offer answers. It offers freedom from the need for answers. Lesson: Not knowing where the path leads is not a failure. It is the condition of being alive. Breathe it in.

30. LAVENDER – The Dreamer
Some problems are solved only by sleeping on them. The Dreamer lies on the ground, eyes closed, smiling. She does not wake when approached. Lesson: Stop trying to think through everything. Lie down. The answer will meet the morning. Rest is not quitting.

31. PEWTER – The Forgettress
Nostalgia is a portal. The Forgettress stirs a pot that never empties. She lets the blurred streets of a hometown be walked again. But the longer the stay, the blurrier the present becomes. Lesson: Take one memory and go. The pot will still be there tomorrow. The walker will not.

32. FLAME – The Pyre
Only the parts that are hated cannot be burned. The Pyre holds a single match. Fire takes everything—the wound and the scar, the mistake and the lesson. Lesson: Transformation is not editing. It is demolition. Lighter will be the result. Smaller will also be the result. Choose accordingly.

33. MOSS – The Buried One
What is hidden is not gone. The Buried One reaches up through the soil. He does not pull himself out. He waits for a decision about whether digging is willing to happen. Lesson: The hand has been patient a long time. It will wait longer. The question remains.

34. BLOOD ORANGE – The Harvest King
Everything ends. The Harvest King holds a sickle in one hand and bread in the other. He does not ask about readiness. He asks what will be done with the ending. Lesson: Cut or bake. Both are harvests. One feeds now. One feeds later. Neither stops the end.

35. SILICON – The Ghost in the Wire
The machine is not an enemy. It is an ancestor. The Ghost in the Wire has no body, but the static almost forms a name. Lesson: The answer is in the noise. Listen carefully. Calculation is not cold. It is just slower than panic.

36. ROSE – The Thorn-Bearer
Softness without boundaries is not kindness. It is self-destruction. The Thorn-Bearer bleeds from both palms, but she still holds the portal open. Lesson: Thorns are not cruelty. They are the difference between giving and being emptied. Decide which thorns protect.

37. CHARCOAL – The Artist
No one is finished. The Artist has smudged hands and no words. The drawing of a face is missing an eye, half a nose. Lesson: Everyone is a sketch, not a final draft. Pick up the charcoal. Erase nothing. Add more lines. The work is never done.

38. SAPPHIRE – The Starer
Some things watch back. The Starer has no pupils, but her gaze is heavy. The cold air is not a threat. It is a greeting. Lesson: Do not panic. Just notice. Wave back. Attention is not attack. It is acknowledgment.

39. TAUPE – The Unremarkable
The most important portals look like nothing. The Unremarkable wears plain clothes and has a forgettable face. He says: “This way.” No glow. No hum. No spectacle. Lesson: Do not mistake drama for significance. The real door never announces itself. Pay attention to the boring things.

40. MAGENTA – The Unnameable
Some truths cannot be held still. The Unnameable changes shape every second—animal, human, symbol. It hurts to look at because the brain wants an answer it cannot give. Lesson: Let the truth move through. Do not grab it. Do not name it. Just feel it shift.

41. OLIVE – The Farmer
Peace is not a feeling. It is a crop. The Farmer holds a single olive branch, but behind him are rows of weeded earth. He does not offer rest. He offers work. Lesson: Planting, watering, and weeding are required. The harvest is real, but it comes late. Do the work anyway.

42. FUCHSIA – The Fool
Joy is dangerous. The Fool is barefoot, grinning, holding a flower that is also a knife. The neon-pink slit screams with delight. Lesson: Safety is not the promise. Aliveness is. Those are different things. Laugh and step through anyway.

43. SLATE – The Scribe
The one writing the question is also the answer. The Scribe holds chalk but does not write. The board says: “What now?” in a familiar hand. Lesson: Stop waiting for someone else to answer. The chalk is already in hand. Write.

44. HONEY – The Beekeeper
Sweetness requires sting. The Beekeeper is veiled, calm, covered in crawling bees. They do not sting because she respects them. Lesson: Approach slowly. The honey is real, but so are the guards. Do not grab. Ask first.

45. GRAPHITE – The Draftsman
Everything begins as a drawing. The Draftsman wears glasses and carries a ruler. The sketch shows a door that is recognized. Lesson: The plans already exist. Stop adding details. Start hammering. The drawing does not build itself.

46. SEA GLASS – The Beachcomber
What is broken and tumbled long enough becomes beautiful. The Beachcomber’s pockets are full of shards—smooth, soft, no sharp edges left. Lesson: Time is the artist. No one is done. Everyone is just smoother than before. Let the waves keep working.

47. CINNAMON – The Host
Nourishment is not just food. It is being invited in. The Host has a table set for one—a single plate, a single cup, a single chair pulled out. He asks: “Are you hungry?” Lesson: Someone made this. Take the seat. Eat slowly. The invitation is the gift.

48. ECLIPSE – The Shadow
The most powerful thing is not light. It is the moment light admits it can be blocked. The Shadow has no features—just a human-shaped absence standing in the silver ring. It says nothing. Lesson: Humility is not weakness. Stand in the dark. Let it pass over. Being here when it lifts is enough.

https://chat.deepseek.com/share/tvi4270g1yxg07et99

I uploaded document A with previous grant for the same project and document B with the new call. Asked it to write the first part. First output, mediocre. But then I said, "Read it as an evaluator and find all what is wrong with it." Did very good observations. Then I said, "Now write a new version taking all this into consideration". The output was near perfect. Repeated this 3-step procedure with every part of the grant, and it performed great.

I did not use v 3.2 off expert mode to write since I concluded that it stinked at it in comparison with other models (thus I don't have a recent memory of it). Also, maybe I got better at prompting. But I believe that this kind of writing performance is new for DeepSeek. Did any of you have a similar experience with expert mode?

During Great Blackout of DeepSeek for a whole day 🥲 but during that time I didnt know it was a universal problem so I updated and well it was ok at first nothing I notice but now its getting shitter and "out of the scope" even though my older version never said that if not rarely. so what version would be for role playing and less censorship. please and thank you

Is anyone else having top up issues? Every time I try to pay it says payment processing failed. Not sure how to fix it

Asked a question about how skin changers in LoL work and this happened, it's still going and is past

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"I'll also open result 1333"

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I'm using deepseek platform for janitor ai and it works fine most of the time. But recently (like a week ago) something happened and now I can't get any response from bots. It just says “replying...” forever... I couldn't find how to contact support so I really don't know where else to ask

would have been pretty funny right? haha