r/DanMachi

I will show some similarities between this two:

- Both has the best raw status ever seen in the verse

- Both has short magic (although bell's is massivelly faster but ottar's stronger)

- The two can overcome the level difference (Ottar with Vana Arganture and Bell with Liaris Freese or Vanadis Tevere sometimes)

- Both can use Afterglow through their magic

However Ottar has much better technique, much better tactics and much more experience, so we could say that Ottar is a better Bell even if is unfair to bell since he hasnt even been an adventurer for a year?

Ok, first things first. This is not about fate servants like CCC Gilgamesh that is multiversal or shit like that.

This about if adventurers got buffed in last few volumes compared to REGULAR SERVANTS and not some mooncell bs, ok?

So help me figure out how strong adventurers are to servants.

So as benchmark i will use Siegfried who is steonger than Fafnir who's breath attack was able to destroy the whole Orleans singularity, so entire country of France. Siegfried is stated to be stronger and has more AP than fafnir and can tank those attacks on regular bases.

Edit: Dragons in fate are said to lay waste to countries with there breath attacks alone, so take that as you will.

Based on latest findings, i found out that Orario is about 50 to 80km in diameter, hlmy friend did some calcs and said it was at 82km actually, which shocked me fr.(source from SO pages)

So max level 6 Ottar(with all his abilities activated) is able to shake the whole city.

This would also upscale other first class adventurers who survived demi-spirit on the 59 floor and if my calc are correct would be around 250km.

Speed wise, are they still faster than speed of sound since allen was stated to be supersonic with sub-relarivistic reaction speed.

So my thoguths are that level 5-6 are like EMIYA tier in terms of physical stats. While the likes of Leon and Ottar could fight mid to high tier servants like Diarmuid, Gareth, Medusa and more and have a chance to win. Meanwhile healthy Zald and Alfia(there captains as well) could fight the likes of Cu, Medea, Percival, Siegfried and more.(P.S. this doesnt inlucde NP's, just pure physical stats. Also for you who say EMIYA is mountain level due to fighting Herc who can destroy a mountain with a swing of his sword, its the same situation where EMIYA kept up with Cu in speed until he was allowed to fught at full power, so wothout some NP that boosts his strenght he cant match Herc. EMIYA can bliw up a mountian with his NP's tho.)

While the likes of Artoria, Heracles, Karna, Arjuna and others like that are simply way beyond them.

But again I AM NOT a danmachi expert, so if you have any info, please share them so i can know how powerful adventurers are.

Do you think he gets more than 1k points, which is the popular theory?

For some reason, I don't remember seeing any characters, especially the much more villainous ones, ever have the ambition of the classic "world domination", even when Freya charmed the whole city, she only did so to finally make Bell become hers, not to rule the city

Do the authors get off by making their characters suffer ?
I mean, that’s what I ask myself when I look on most piece of fiction nowadays, just looking through these mcs going through hell and more.
On a more serious note, is it perhaps because the authors end up actually hating their story / mc ?
Personally my tastes change quite quickly, It doesn’t mean that I end up hating what I liked a few weeks ago, it means that it simply doesn’t interest me as much as the current genre I’m going through as of right now (but that’s only my personal experience)
So I sometimes as myself, don’t authors end up hating their story as time pass, having to consistently write the same story through YEARS, I can’t seem to grasp how they wouldn’t end up hating them, humans evolve and consistently grow, I can’t possibly watch an anime my 12 years old would devour in half a day.
So perhaps as a form of petty little revenge they make their mc suffer to relieve themselves a little.
So, do you think Omori regret danmachi ?
(I’m writing this having the 8 last volumes in mind)

Industry: "An anime season is 12 or 13 episodes. Fit in or stretch out what you are adapting."

Chad J.C.Staff: "Season 5 is 15 episodes, because it's how much we need to fit in the whole arc and give it a satisfying ending."

The payout at the end, seeing >!Syr/Freya cry and accept herself as Syr!<was so damn good and satisfying.