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It’s a part of our type collection but nobody knows what it says. I know very little about cuneiform so sorry if it’s upside down.

u/Aggravating-Ad2454 — 12 days ago

Am I not supposed to buy Sumerian Cuneiform artifacts??

I recently made a post on here about a Sumerian clay nail that I'm going to purchase, and some people gave me a hard time and the moderator removed my post. Why??

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u/MGOTRealty — 4 days ago
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Video still frame of Abraham’s journey from Ur where the ziggurat for Sin is located to Harran, Turkey—where the Harran Stela was discovered in 1956.

The stela is significant as a text that demonstrates the adoration of Nabonidus to the Sun (Shamash), Ishtar, and especially Sin:

“(This is) the great miracle of Sin that none of the (other) gods and goddesses knew (how to achieve), that has not happened in the country from the days of old, that the people of the country have (not) observed nor written down on clay tables to be preserved for eternity, that (you), Sin, the lord of all the gods and goddesses residing in heaven, have come down from heaven to (me) Nabonidus, king of Babylon!

For me, Nabonidus, the lonely one who has nobody, in whose (text: my) heart was not thought of kingship, the gods and goddesses prayed (to Sin) and called me to kingship.

At midnight, he (Sin) made me have a dream and said (in the dream) as follows: “Rebuild speedily Ehulhul, the temple of Sin in Harran, and I will hand over to you all the countries.

Upon the command of Sin <<and>> Ishtar, the Lady-of-Battle, without whom neither hostilities nor reconciliation can occur in the country and no battle can be fought, extended her protection (lit.: hand) over them, and the king of Egypt, the Medes and the land of the Arabs, all the hostile kings, were sending me messages of reconciliation and friendship.

As to the land of the Arabs which [is the eternal enemy] of Babylonia [and which] was (always) ready to rob and carry off its possession, Nergal broke their weapons upon the order of Sin, and they all bowed down at my feet.”

(see Torah/Genesis 10:6-20 regarding Sinites, a people-group plurality of Sin)

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Source (Video/Image 1-3): https://youtu.be/f7-RQZavU3U?si=hxAgQFmztEagtNNx

Source (Image 4): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harran_Stela

Source (Image 5): https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/image/380602001

Source (Image 6): https://www.stepbible.org/?q=version=KJVA@reference=Gen.10.6-Gen.10.20&options=HNVUG

u/Responsible_Ideal879 — 7 days ago

Legible handwriting?

How legible is this to you guys? Is my translation correct? I tried to write "Ana šumu Karimu" (my name is Kareem) in Ugaritic

u/Kareems_in_detroit — 1 day ago
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“His investigation began after identifying recurring giant T-shapes, three-level indents, and step pyramids carved into ancient stones worldwide...

According to LaCroix, the origin of this global system lies in eastern Turkey's Lake Van region at a site known as Ionis…

Nearby, the site of Kefkalesi provides one of the clearest examples of these symbols in stone.
The four-foot-by-four-foot basalt carving, known as the Kefkalesi relief, contains complex iconography that mirrors the symbols…”

Notable observations: Just noticed the wedge-shaped circles, representing the flower, is also underneath the step pyramid on the wall painting—along with the arrow pointing up hybridized with the door inside the step pyramid.

(The blooming symbolism appears to be there as a well, above the pyramid on one; and, below the flower and triangle on the other.

The T-shape appears to be in the gowns of the bookended archers)

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Sources:

https://collections.louvre.fr/en/ark:/53355/cl010170854

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kef_Kalesi_Säulenelement_01.jpg

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/mysterious-symbols-spanning-the-globe-hint-at-a-lost-civilization-38-000-years-ago/ar-AA1VKV8y

u/Responsible_Ideal879 — 7 days ago
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Key Cross-Referentials:

🔑 Cuneiform is an ancient writing system originating in Mesopotamia.

🔑 Amarna Period (Amarna Letters, Tell el-Amarna)

🔑 Hammurabi was a Babylonian King associated with the Hammurabi Code (and Shamash)—who was also Amorite (Amurru).

🔑 Canaan and its association with the Hyksos.

Notable Observations: An/Anu references in the following journals and reference to India via Wadi Hammamat in Upper Egypt:

(1) The Anu in India and Egypt (Journal: Indian History Congress);

(2) The Origin of Egyptian Civilisation (The Journal of the Royal Anthropological Institute of Great Britain and Ireland);

(3) Neferkamin Anu (king of ancient Egypt during the First Intermediate Period);

(4) Wadi Hammamat (“gateway to India”);

(5) The Indus Civilization and Dilmun, the Sumerian Paradise Land;

(6) The Giant’s Tomb: “Tomb of Ham”, Jhelum district of Punjab, Pakistan (Salman Rashid, Fellow of Royal Geographical Society)

(7) Hyksos and Canaanite association—based on biblical narrative Canaan was the extension of Ham (Ham > Hammurabi > Wadi Hammamat)

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Source (Images): https://armstronginstitute.org/881-the-amarna-letters-proof-of-israels-invasion-of-canaan

Source (1): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

Source (2): https://www.jstor.org/stable/44304690

Source (3): https://www.jstor.org/stable/2843255

Source (4): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_Hammamat

Source (5): https://www.penn.museum/sites/expedition/the-indus-civilization-and-dilmun-the-sumerian-paradise-land/

Source (6): https://odysseuslahori.blogspot.com/2013/09/NaugazaPir.html?m=1

Source (7): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

u/Responsible_Ideal879 — 7 days ago

I really like this piece, but does it actually say what it's suppose to??

Supposedly, this says

- Nam-mahami (Nam-make-ni?)
- Viceroy/Governer (PA-TE-SI or ensi?)
- (of) the city of Lagash

I've looked online at which symbols I'm supposed to be seeing, but I'm not sure if I'm seeing them lol

Any knowledgeable input would be greatly appreciated 🙏

u/MGOTRealty — 6 days ago

Help with cuneiform for Sumerian proverb art project

Hello, everyone! I'm a big fan of ancient mesopotamia and cooking, want to make some art for my kitchen featuring the Sumerian proverb "There is no baked cake in the middle of the dough".

I can't read or write cuneiform myself, but I'd love the authentic unicode script (or a "tablet-style" image) for this proverb to use in a design/print. From what I've seen, it might be SP 1.166 Oxford's ETCSL or similar. Any chance someone could transliterate it accurately and provide the glyphs? Sumerian preferred if possible!

Happy to credit and share the final art. Thanks so much, this community is awesome :^)

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u/Outrageous-Power-815 — 3 days ago

Hello!

I’m in the process of creating illustrations for Epic of Gilgamesh and I wanted to incorporate quotes as part of the composition. The catch is that I don’t know how to read or write cuneiform, so I would be very grateful for some help. I’ve had a look at the tablets in one of the A.R.George’s book but I struggle to make out the characters or repetitive words which could help to identify the quotes (like the word ‘ibru’ referring to Enkidu or the names of the characters).

The first line I wanted to incorporate is either ‘Humbaba, the guardian of the Forest [of Cedar]’ or ‘Gilgamesh [smote him] in the neck’ from Tablet V lines 241 and 261 accordingly). I’m okay with filling the gaps which are missing in the text.

The second one is ‘O father, give me, please, the Bull of Heaven, that I may slay Gilgamesh in his dwelling’ form Tablet VI (lines 94-95).

The third one is from Tablet VIII ‘I shall weep for Enkidu, my friend!’ (line 44)

Last but bit the least is from Tablet X on mortality ‘Then all of a sudden, there is nothing here’ (line 315).

Also, is there a database/book with the characters in cuneiform for Akkadian, so I could be confident in writing the syllables right (since it’s Standard Babylonian version, I believe)?

Many thanks!! <3

u/Wonderful-Snow-2078 — 9 days ago

Hi! I need to know what the left side of the page says for a class, and I translated it the best I could but I can’t comprehend it! Anyone knows what it says or at least it means and how it’s pronounced?

u/butterflyprncss — 14 days ago

Deimal 1934 Sumerian Akkadian Glossary: Images Reply and Quick Intro

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If I remember, this one is not free online, in the Public Domain until 2034, and only 5 American universities are listed as having it on WorldCat website.

But it sounds outdated and expensive, so why would you buy a copy? Nostalgia? Interest? Bookshelf decoration? A sense of erudition?

The whole thing is in German and clearly handwritten. Not a bit of the English in it, not even if you turn it sideways or upside down.

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Here's images to hopefully answer a recent post question to another Reddit group. Here is a link to the question post. I also replied there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumerian/s/kvfXRjfLGu

I'm new to Reddit groups and see I can't reply with images as on Facebook groups. So I made this post and thought I would post it here as well.

I own these 3 books and bought them a couple months ago cheap. I like outadated scholarship and The History and Mechanics of Science somewhat and to a notable degree. But not as much as the modern world!

@PoxonAllHoaxes

Everybody is also welcome to private message me or write me on facebook with any questions on any of the 10 or so Cuneiform Languages, as I know a lot about all of them! I also can help with bibliography on any obscure foreign language, especially the 200 or so historic ones. And I've studied almost all of them the past 20 years.

My facebook address is /hieroglyphs/ . I also know Ancient Egyptian languages far better than the Cuneiform Languages.

Professor Craig Melchert once gave me a copy of his Cuneiform Luwian corpus. He will give you a copy if you email him. He works at U North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

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Images: The books and a photo of Deimal. Maybe he was Christian priest, I forget.

u/PreparationRound2657 — 8 days ago

Good morning everyone,

Does anyone know exactly what tablet is depicted?

It looks like a serious photograph, like those on Syrian Republic post stamps, rather than a painter's fantasy, as is usually the case. It seems like it's not from the Austrian Collections (I checked them).

The special stamp series The Development of Writing (ger. Die Entwicklung des Schreibens) is WIPA 1965 - the Vienna International Postage Stamp Exhibition.

After a hiatus of 32 years, this exhibition, at which the world’s leading philatelists will compete for gold medals, is taking place in Vienna once again. Just as in 1933, the city is once again entirely in the grip of the stamp. The six stamps in the WIPA special series depict the history of writing, from the hieroglyphs of the Egyptians to the typewriter of the present day. The design on the second special stamp shows the front of a business document in cuneiform script, which originated among the Sumerians around 3700 BC. Even this people equated the invention of writing with the dawn of civilisation. The writing materials – malleable clay and a triangular stylus made from marsh reed, used to press the characters into the clay – and the quest for abbreviated forms led to the characteristic wedge-shaped form of the individual strokes that made up the script. Four or five types of wedge had to suffice for all pictorial signs; others were not permitted. Depicted on the back of the clay tablet is a male head, viewed from the front. The lines of the face hint at the demonic and warlike nature of Assyrian culture.

https://preview.redd.it/iasu2osm9xyg1.jpg?width=790&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d4dccca42f4efb61393a5c2a6742595046a3389

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u/sumerian_stranger — 11 days ago

I realize these probably aren’t quite cuneiform but they do seem similar. Any possible translation for the upper three symbols?

For reference, I woke up from a deep sleep and saw them in my vision, just kinda floating there like when you get up too fast and see stars. It was very clear though and looked like it was scrawled with charcoal. It didn’t fade from my vision until I got up and wrote them down. Sounds crazy, maybe it is, but I’d never had any kind of experience like that before or after.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

u/mooncalf_rising — 11 days ago

Kushim is regarded by some as the first recorded name in history. Since this is countered with the possibility that it was a title, I looked into the etymology of the name, and found that 𒆪 means to grasp or handle, and 𒋆 means aromatics. Kushim seemed to mainly handle records of barley, which raises some questions for interpreting this as a title.

  1. Could 𒆪 plausibly be read as buraucratic handling? Is there precedent for this understanding of the word in written record?
  2. Could barley plausibly have been considered a 𒋆, or fall under the jurisdiction of one who handles aromatics?
u/KaitlynKitti — 11 days ago