r/BelVethMains

I basically pick her whenever my otp is banned since dodging counts as a real loss in master+ so I have to pick a second champ, decided to practice her on d1 acc after solo losing the game when i had to pick her on my 300lp main and I noticed how horrific she is if she doesn't have her kraken slayer like you die so damn easily and your auto attacks deal such little amount of damage that you can't even oneshot mini krugs with double adaptive, clear speed also sucks and its just awkward you have to use e when the camp is 300 hp and its on like a 20s cd so your lv 2 clear is almost as slow as lv 1 and w is just a knock up dealing zero damage.

So right now, it's pretty consistent to achieve around 2:52 redside clear and 2:45 blueside clear with Belveth; just in time for scuttle.

I think this change would be really nice for her early clear speed, to let her have a separate playstyle aside from invading: rework her W to restore a Q in that target direction when it hits a jungle camp or epic monster in addition to champions.

I think you would be able to get 4 extra Qs with this (1 on wolves, 1 on gromp and 2 on blue buff). That shouldn't buff her clear speed by more than 5-7 seconds and has basically 0 impact on every other situation in the game.

She needs some love this patch, and that's the least that she can get imo.

Top idea or flop?

I'd say I'm relatively quite new to the role I main Viego, but I really wanted to pick up a few other characters mainly Volibear, Rammus, Bel Veth and Kayn. Bel Veth Ive definitely struggled with understanding the most, they feel so clunky and weird movement wise and I generally dont understand their early game pressure since it feels like their damage is really slow early, a lot of the time mid game I also struggle to find what to do if I'm up, do you guys have any tips for learning the character?

Here are, in my opinion, the 4 most to-be-built builds and their reasonings. Do they sound solid?:

Kraken Stride DD/Wits/Rageblade

--general/high CC

Kraken Rageblade Hull/Bork/Stride/DD/BC

--Big lead/low cc. Need to fight statcheckers like mordekaiser/trundle/darius

Kraken Bork Stride/DD/Wits/BC/Hull

--2+ HP stackers. can sell kraken for navori after getting full build.

Kraken Navori Hull/Bork/Stride/Hull/BC.

--No solid reasoning yet really effective. fun as hell.

4th/5th item pool: Terminus/Hullbreaker/DD/Wits/GA/Spirit Visage/Rageblade/Jaksho/Randuins

One more question: what are your takes on going for sixth sense and treasure hunter, instead of inspiration secondaries? Is PTA better this patch or is conq still the standard unless perma invading?

And so I thought it best to share with you this information. Do with it what you will. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding in this matter.