I want to put out the theory that he could have had some sort of brain tumor or cancer that drastically changed his brain and decision making. Tumors are known to cause impaired judgment, confusion, cognitive decline, and extreme mood changes. Although highly unlikely, It would explain the randomness/impulsivity of it all, his social withdrawal, and his leaving clothing items and money behind. Surely this has been previously discussed, I just haven’t seen anyone bring it up on this sub.

Personally, I find suicide or crime of opportunity to be the most logical explanations, just want to explore it from all angles.

May Andrew Gosden find peace in life or death.

Now it's just a theory and I'm probably way off but what are the chances if someone did something to Andrew they sold his PSP on eBay or popular selling sites at the time?. Would it even be possible to be able to check so long after it happened?. It could have been sold without a charger. But if I shoot my own theory down here, it may well have been kept or sold in a shop. Would the police ever be able to track something like that?

Hello, I haven’t been interested in the case for a long time, so if this has already been discussed here, I apologize.

Is there any possibility that Andrew could still be alive but doesn’t know that he is Andrew Gosden or that he is being searched for? For example, if he had been kidnapped and was living under another identity in another country, maybe somewhere in Europe, and is now living a normal life but doesn’t know who he really is or that he is missing. Is that possible?

Could Andrew’s PSP Have Been Used For More Than Just Games?

A lot of people say there was “no evidence” Andrew was communicating with anyone online before he disappeared, but I think that’s more complicated when you consider both the technology and the time period.

In 2007, the PSP wasn’t just a gaming device — it had internet browser capability and could connect to Wi-Fi. People could use it to browse websites, forums, browser-based chatrooms and online communities. Back then, internet spaces were also far less tied to real identities than they are today. Many forums and social/chat sites relied on anonymous usernames rather than phone numbers or heavily verified accounts.

The important part is that Andrew’s PSP was never recovered.

So if the PSP did contain browser history, usernames, forum activity or communication, investigators may never have had access to it. I’m not saying this proves he was talking to someone online — there’s no evidence confirming that — but I do think it creates a genuine blind spot in the investigation that people sometimes dismiss too quickly.

One reason I find this angle interesting is because I struggle with the idea of purely random foul play. King’s Cross and central London in daytime are busy, crowded places. Andrew was 14, but he was also old enough to recognise obvious danger, walk away or attract attention if he felt threatened.

That’s why I personally feel that if another person was involved, Andrew likely trusted them to some degree, or at least didn’t immediately perceive danger. That trust could have come from prior communication, a shared interest, or simply someone presenting themselves as safe and friendly.

This is partly why the Breck Bednar case comes to mind for me. The cases are obviously very different, but Breck’s case showed that intelligent, quiet teenagers could still form hidden online relationships without parents fully realising. In that case, the contact started online through gaming/internet communities and eventually led to an in-person meeting. I’m not saying the same thing happened to Andrew — only that it shows this type of hidden communication was absolutely possible in the mid-2000s internet era.

Interested to hear other thoughts and opinions on this!

Andrew was absentminded. Not very street smart but that's usually not apparent just by looking at someone. I think people put a lot of weight on the one way ticket. I have travelled to London many times and always got a one way ticket, even in recent years not just decades ago. Andrew refused it because it's what his family also did.

I think it's scary that someone out there knows something.

Or do they?

It could be a possible suicide.

Boys especially back then didn't talk about feelings. It wasn't "manly" enough.

Maybe he wasn't gay.

Maybe there wasn't even a specific reason for his suicide. Remember how we all felt as a young teen and how everything mattered so much especially how we were viewed by others?

Maybe he had something building up for a long time. Since he spent a lot of time alone when he wasn't at school. He could've even spent a lot of time trying to find his purpose in life but just couldn't.

The sad truth is:

Not every body washes up.

Not everyone is noticed.

No matter how much any friends or family think they know someone, you don't always know what happens in their head.

Not everyone has a specific event happen to them or reason for depression or struggles. A chemical imbalance in the brain is enough.

He could've even put his belongings in a public bin in London.

There isn't always a psychopathic murderer.

There isn't always a dark mystery to everything.

Good evening! I am an avid true crime fan and have been indulging in Reddit forums for years! I have been very interested in investigating unsolved murders, especially ones linked to paedophile rings like the dirty dozen. I remember a thread you posted two years ago with an exhaustive list of uk cases of missing and murdered boys. This weekend I did some investigating on all cases and wrote down below if the case has been solved/unsolved/if the body was found or if there was a conviction etc. Thank you very much for bringing this to light and may their souls rest in peace🙏🏽❤️

There are 50 cases listed, 26 have been solved and 24 have not been solved. 52% have been solved, while the other 48% remain unsolved.

Uk cases of missing and murdered boys

This is just an amateur list of cases that I know of. The victims are all aged under 18.

I have excluded:

- high profile cases which were solved quickly

- drug/gang related shootings and stabbings

1967

Bernard Oliver (unsolved)-remains were found in 2 suitcases and the 2 prime suspects which were 2 doctors are now dead. ❌

1968

Roy Tutill (solved)-body found and in 2001 (33 years after the murder) Brian Fied was discovered to have been the killer through a dna match after being arrested for drink driving and was convicted of the murder of Roy. Brian Field died in 2024 at the age of 87 in full sutton max security prison. ✅

1976

Peter Watts (unsolved)-body found with no conviction. ❌

1978

Carl Bridgewater (unsolved) body found-Initially four men known as the Bridgewater four were convicted of Carl’s murder in 1978. However in 1997, their convictions were overturned and the surviving defendants were released. It is strongly speculated that convicted murderer Bert Spencer was actually responsible for Carl’s murder. ❌

1979

Sean McGann (unsolved) body found-no one has ever been convicted for the murder of Sean. However there are many theories that Sidney Cooke’s dirty dozen gang were responsible for Sean’s murder. ❌

Martin Allen (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. There are several strong theories surrounding VIP paedophile rings in relation to the disappearance and then murder of Martin. Such as the Elm guesthouse/Sidney Cooke’s dirty dozen gang. ❌

Alan Livesy (unsolved) body found-Alan’s mum Margaret Livesy was convicted of her own son’s murder in 1979. However she claimed that she was forced to confess during a police interrogation. She always maintained her innocence until her death in 2001. The case was reopened and no body has ever been convicted of Alan’s murder. ❌

1980

John Greenwood & Gary Miller (unsolved) bodies found-John Cheeseman was acquitted of the boys murder in 1981. However there is strong speculation that Robert Fisher was responsible for the boys murder. Robert Fisher died in 1991 and his wife Ethel reportedly died by suicide in 1999 after telling friends she could not live with the guilt of knowing that her husband had killed the boys. No one has ever been convicted for the boys murder. ❌

1981

Vishal Mehotra (unsolved) partial remains were found in 1982-However no one has ever been convicted for Vishal’s murder. There are several strong theories surrounding VIP paedophile rings in relation to Vishal’s murder. Such as the Elm guesthouse/Sidney Cooke’s dirty dozen gang/Muntham House School child sexual abuse ring where house master Nicholas Douglass titled a document called Vishal after Vishal’s remains were found. ❌

1984

Mark Tildesley (solved) no body has ever been found-Leslie Bailey (a key member of the dirty dozen gang) was convicted of the murder of Mark in 1993. Leslie was later murdered by 2 other inmates in 1993 while serving his sentence at whitemoor max security prison. ✅

Colin Maxwell (unsolved) skeletal remains were found in 1986 and his mother’s boyfriend Albert Newman was cleared of Colin’s murder in 2004. ❌

Mark Billington (unsolved) body found, however there has been no conviction. However convicted child killer Brian Field is speculated to have been responsible for the murder of Mark. ✅

Christopher Laverack (solved) body found with no conviction-Christopher’s uncle who was a convicted pedophile named Melvyn Read died in prison in 2008. He was proven to be Christopher’s killer in 2012 via DNA testing. ✅

1985

Jason Swift (solved) body found with conviction-The dirty dozen gang; Sidney Cooke, Stephen Barrell, Robert Oliver and Leslie Bailey were convicted for the manslaughter of Jason in 1989. ✅

Barry Lewis (solved) body found with conviction-Leslie Bailey was convicted for the murder of Barry in 1993. ✅

Imraan Vohra (solved) body found with no conviction-Robert Morley was discovered to be Imraan’s killer in 2009 via a match in the national dna database, as Robert Morley’s relative was convicted of a very serious crime. Robert Morley died in 1997 and unfortunately evaded justice. ✅

Reece Collins (unsolved) body found with no conviction-There are strong speculations that it was linked to a pedophile ring and there are many similarities with the unsolved 1986 disappearance of Kevin Hicks. ❌

1986

Kevin Hicks (unsolved) no body found with no conviction-There are many similarities with the 1985 unsolved murder of Reece Collins. ❌

Tony McGrane (solved) body found-Gary Owen Joseph was convicted of Tony’s murder in 1987. ✅

1987

Mark Garvey (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

1988

Ho Ay Long (unsolved) body was found floating in the river thames and it was discovered that he had been strangled. No one has ever been convicted for the murder of Ho Ay. ❌

Lee Boxell (unsolved) no body has ever been found-there is a strong speculation that a convicted paedophile gravedigger William Lambert was responsible for the disappearance and then murder of Lee. ❌

1989

Michael Boulton (solved) body was found in 1990 and his cause of death was hypothermia. ✅

1990

Wayne Taylor (solved) body found-Michael Wyatt was convicted of Wayne’s murder in 1991. In addition to this he was also convicted for an attempted murder of a 9 year old boy in 1989. ✅

1991

Paul Pearson (solved) body found-Richard Blenkey who had a previous conviction in 1978 for abducting a young boy was convicted of Paul’s murder in 1992. ✅

1992

Christopher Stanley (unsolved) body found with no conviction-Christopher’s neighbour Kelvin John McMahon was acquitted of Christopher’s murder in 1993. ❌

1993

Sean Williams (solved) found body with conviction- Colin Hatch was convicted of Sean’s murder in 1994 and was later murdered in 2011 while serving his sentence at full sutton max security prison. ✅

1994

Daniel Handley (solved) remains were found in 1995 with conviction-Convicted paedophiles Brett Tyler and Timothy Moors were convicted for Daniel’s abduction, buggery and murder in 1996. Timothy Moors’s boyfriend David Guttridge was also convicted for perverting the course of justice. ✅

Rikki Neave (solved) found body with conviction- Ruth Neave (Rikki’s mother) was initially convicted. However almost 28 years after the murder, it was discovered that James Watson who was only 13 years old at the time was responsible for the murder of Rikki. James Watson was convicted of the murder of Rikki in 2022. ✅

1995

Darren Fawns (unsolved) body was found but no one has ever been convicted for the murder of Darren. ❌

Paul Barker & Robbie Gee (solved) bodies were found-Steven David Heaney was convicted of the boys murder in 1996. ✅

1996

Patrick Warren & David Spencer (unsolved) no bodies found and no conviction-although convicted child killer Brian Field is speculated to have been responsible. ❌

Damien Nettles (unsolved) no body found and no conviction-countless theories still speculate about Damien’s disappearance. ❌

1997

Thomas Marshall (solved) body found-Kevan Roberts who had been previously cautioned by police for helping 2 teenagers make an indecent video in his bathroom was convicted of the murder of Thomas in 1999. ✅

Jamie Lavis (solved)-partial remains were found and Darren Vickers was convicted of the murder of Jamie in 1999. ✅

1998

Wesley Neaily (solved) body was found-Convicted sex offender Dominic Mckilligan, was convicted of the murder of Wesley in 1999. ✅

2002

Ryan Mason (solved) body was found-In 2002 Ryan’s mums boyfriend Ronald Mariner was found guilty of Ryan’s murder. ✅

Adam Morrell (solved) body parts were found in plastic bags-In 2003 Matthew Welsh was convicted of Adam’s murder and Sarah Morris (Matthew’s girlfriend) was convicted of grievous bodily harm with intent. Nathan Barnett admitted manslaughter on the ground of diminished responsibility and Daniel Biggs was cleared of murder and assault. All defendants admitted conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. ✅

2003

Daniel Entiwistle (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

2004

Mark Cummings (solved) body was found-in 2004 a convicted paedophile Stuart Leggate was convicted of the murder of Mark. ✅

Terry Hurst (solved) body was found-In 2005 Andrew Smith, John Sawdon, Jermaine James and Rebecca Peeters were convicted of Terry’s murder. ✅

2005

Rory Blackhall (unsolved) body found-In 2005 prime suspect Simon Harris had committed suicide and was found by police in his home. Simon Harris was accused of abusing three girls between 1993 and 2000.
Simon faced eight charges of lewd and libidinous behaviour and three of assault. No one has ever been convicted for the murder of Rory. ❌

Thomas Devlin (solved) body found-In 2010 Gary Taylor and Nigel Brown were each found guilty of the murder of Thomas and the attempted murder of Jonathan McKee. ✅

2006

Joe Geeling (solved) body found-Michael Hamer plead guilty to Joe’s murder in 2006. ✅

Michael Chapman (solved) body found-Lee Cowie Michael’s friend plead guilty to his manslaughter in 2007. ✅

2007

Andrew Gosden (unsolved) no body found and no conviction-countless theories still speculate about Andrew’s disappearance. ❌

2008

Alexander Slolely (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

2014

Breck Bednar (solved) body found-Lewis Daynes was convicted of Breck’s murder in 2015. ✅

2020

Owen Harding (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

Noah Donohoe (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

Good evening! I am an avid true crime fan and have been indulging in Reddit forums for years! I have been very interested in investigating unsolved murders, especially ones linked to paedophile rings like the dirty dozen. I remember a thread you posted two years ago with an exhaustive list of uk cases of missing and murdered boys. This weekend I did some investigating on all cases and wrote down below if the case has been solved/unsolved/if the body was found or if there was a conviction etc. Thank you very much for bringing this to light and may their souls rest in peace🙏🏽❤️

There are 50 cases listed, 26 have been solved and 24 have not been solved. 52% have been solved, while the other 48% remain unsolved.

Uk cases of missing and murdered boys

This is just an amateur list of cases that I know of. The victims are all aged under 18.

I have excluded:

- high profile cases which were solved quickly

- drug/gang related shootings and stabbings

1967

Bernard Oliver (unsolved)-remains were found in 2 suitcases and the 2 prime suspects which were 2 doctors are now dead. ❌

1968

Roy Tutill (solved)-body found and in 2001 (33 years after the murder) Brian Fied was discovered to have been the killer through a dna match after being arrested for drink driving and was convicted of the murder of Roy. Brian Field died in 2024 at the age of 87 in full sutton max security prison. ✅

1976

Peter Watts (unsolved)-body found with no conviction. ❌

1978

Carl Bridgewater (unsolved) body found-Initially four men known as the Bridgewater four were convicted of Carl’s murder in 1978. However in 1997, their convictions were overturned and the surviving defendants were released. It is strongly speculated that convicted murderer Bert Spencer was actually responsible for Carl’s murder. ❌

1979

Sean McGann (unsolved) body found-no one has ever been convicted for the murder of Sean. However there are many theories that Sidney Cooke’s dirty dozen gang were responsible for Sean’s murder. ❌

Martin Allen (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. There are several strong theories surrounding VIP paedophile rings in relation to the disappearance and then murder of Martin. Such as the Elm guesthouse/Sidney Cooke’s dirty dozen gang. ❌

Alan Livesy (unsolved) body found-Alan’s mum Margaret Livesy was convicted of her own son’s murder in 1979. However she claimed that she was forced to confess during a police interrogation. She always maintained her innocence until her death in 2001. The case was reopened and no body has ever been convicted of Alan’s murder. ❌

1980

John Greenwood & Gary Miller (unsolved) bodies found-John Cheeseman was acquitted of the boys murder in 1981. However there is strong speculation that Robert Fisher was responsible for the boys murder. Robert Fisher died in 1991 and his wife Ethel reportedly died by suicide in 1999 after telling friends she could not live with the guilt of knowing that her husband had killed the boys. No one has ever been convicted for the boys murder. ❌

1981

Vishal Mehotra (unsolved) partial remains were found in 1982-However no one has ever been convicted for Vishal’s murder. There are several strong theories surrounding VIP paedophile rings in relation to Vishal’s murder. Such as the Elm guesthouse/Sidney Cooke’s dirty dozen gang/Muntham House School child sexual abuse ring where house master Nicholas Douglass titled a document called Vishal after Vishal’s remains were found. ❌

1984

Mark Tildesley (solved) no body has ever been found-Leslie Bailey (a key member of the dirty dozen gang) was convicted of the murder of Mark in 1993. Leslie was later murdered by 2 other inmates in 1993 while serving his sentence at whitemoor max security prison. ✅

Colin Maxwell (unsolved) skeletal remains were found in 1986 and his mother’s boyfriend Albert Newman was cleared of Colin’s murder in 2004. ❌

Mark Billington (unsolved) body found, however there has been no conviction. However convicted child killer Brian Field is speculated to have been responsible for the murder of Mark. ✅

Christopher Laverack (solved) body found with no conviction-Christopher’s uncle who was a convicted pedophile named Melvyn Read died in prison in 2008. He was proven to be Christopher’s killer in 2012 via DNA testing. ✅

1985

Jason Swift (solved) body found with conviction-The dirty dozen gang; Sidney Cooke, Stephen Barrell, Robert Oliver and Leslie Bailey were convicted for the manslaughter of Jason in 1989. ✅

Barry Lewis (solved) body found with conviction-Leslie Bailey was convicted for the murder of Barry in 1993. ✅

Imraan Vohra (solved) body found with no conviction-Robert Morley was discovered to be Imraan’s killer in 2009 via a match in the national dna database, as Robert Morley’s relative was convicted of a very serious crime. Robert Morley died in 1997 and unfortunately evaded justice. ✅

Reece Collins (unsolved) body found with no conviction-There are strong speculations that it was linked to a pedophile ring and there are many similarities with the unsolved 1986 disappearance of Kevin Hicks. ❌

1986

Kevin Hicks (unsolved) no body found with no conviction-There are many similarities with the 1985 unsolved murder of Reece Collins. ❌

Tony McGrane (solved) body found-Gary Owen Joseph was convicted of Tony’s murder in 1987. ✅

1987

Mark Garvey (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

1988

Ho Ay Long (unsolved) body was found floating in the river thames and it was discovered that he had been strangled. No one has ever been convicted for the murder of Ho Ay. ❌

Lee Boxell (unsolved) no body has ever been found-there is a strong speculation that a convicted paedophile gravedigger William Lambert was responsible for the disappearance and then murder of Lee. ❌

1989

Michael Boulton (solved) body was found in 1990 and his cause of death was hypothermia. ✅

1990

Wayne Taylor (solved) body found-Michael Wyatt was convicted of Wayne’s murder in 1991. In addition to this he was also convicted for an attempted murder of a 9 year old boy in 1989. ✅

1991

Paul Pearson (solved) body found-Richard Blenkey who had a previous conviction in 1978 for abducting a young boy was convicted of Paul’s murder in 1992. ✅

1992

Christopher Stanley (unsolved) body found with no conviction-Christopher’s neighbour Kelvin John McMahon was acquitted of Christopher’s murder in 1993. ❌

1993

Sean Williams (solved) found body with conviction- Colin Hatch was convicted of Sean’s murder in 1994 and was later murdered in 2011 while serving his sentence at full sutton max security prison. ✅

1994

Daniel Handley (solved) remains were found in 1995 with conviction-Convicted paedophiles Brett Tyler and Timothy Moors were convicted for Daniel’s abduction, buggery and murder in 1996. Timothy Moors’s boyfriend David Guttridge was also convicted for perverting the course of justice. ✅

Rikki Neave (solved) found body with conviction- Ruth Neave (Rikki’s mother) was initially convicted. However almost 28 years after the murder, it was discovered that James Watson who was only 13 years old at the time was responsible for the murder of Rikki. James Watson was convicted of the murder of Rikki in 2022. ✅

1995

Darren Fawns (unsolved) body was found but no one has ever been convicted for the murder of Darren. ❌

Paul Barker & Robbie Gee (solved) bodies were found-Steven David Heaney was convicted of the boys murder in 1996. ✅

1996

Patrick Warren & David Spencer (unsolved) no bodies found and no conviction-although convicted child killer Brian Field is speculated to have been responsible. ❌

Damien Nettles (unsolved) no body found and no conviction-countless theories still speculate about Damien’s disappearance. ❌

1997

Thomas Marshall (solved) body found-Kevan Roberts who had been previously cautioned by police for helping 2 teenagers make an indecent video in his bathroom was convicted of the murder of Thomas in 1999. ✅

Jamie Lavis (solved)-partial remains were found and Darren Vickers was convicted of the murder of Jamie in 1999. ✅

1998

Wesley Neaily (solved) body was found-Convicted sex offender Dominic Mckilligan, was convicted of the murder of Wesley in 1999. ✅

2002

Ryan Mason (solved) body was found-In 2002 Ryan’s mums boyfriend Ronald Mariner was found guilty of Ryan’s murder. ✅

Adam Morrell (solved) body parts were found in plastic bags-In 2003 Matthew Welsh was convicted of Adam’s murder and Sarah Morris (Matthew’s girlfriend) was convicted of grievous bodily harm with intent. Nathan Barnett admitted manslaughter on the ground of diminished responsibility and Daniel Biggs was cleared of murder and assault. All defendants admitted conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. ✅

2003

Daniel Entiwistle (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

2004

Mark Cummings (solved) body was found-in 2004 a convicted paedophile Stuart Leggate was convicted of the murder of Mark. ✅

Terry Hurst (solved) body was found-In 2005 Andrew Smith, John Sawdon, Jermaine James and Rebecca Peeters were convicted of Terry’s murder. ✅

2005

Rory Blackhall (unsolved) body found-In 2005 prime suspect Simon Harris had committed suicide and was found by police in his home. Simon Harris was accused of abusing three girls between 1993 and 2000.
Simon faced eight charges of lewd and libidinous behaviour and three of assault. No one has ever been convicted for the murder of Rory. ❌

Thomas Devlin (solved) body found-In 2010 Gary Taylor and Nigel Brown were each found guilty of the murder of Thomas and the attempted murder of Jonathan McKee. ✅

2006

Joe Geeling (solved) body found-Michael Hamer plead guilty to Joe’s murder in 2006. ✅

Michael Chapman (solved) body found-Lee Cowie Michael’s friend plead guilty to his manslaughter in 2007. ✅

2007

Andrew Gosden (unsolved) no body found and no conviction-countless theories still speculate about Andrew’s disappearance. ❌

2008

Alexander Slolely (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

2014

Breck Bednar (solved) body found-Lewis Daynes was convicted of Breck’s murder in 2015. ✅

2020

Owen Harding (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

Noah Donohoe (unsolved) no body found and no conviction. ❌

Another theory when Andrew got into London he may of got a taxi to the persons house he was going to or place and then he met his death in the taxi on that same day just a guess