r/AirFranceKLM

Air France is not an airline for seniors

TL;DR: If you are booking travel for aging parents, avoid Air France. They forced a 10-hour involuntary layover on my 70+ year-old parents, completely ignored my requests (lounge/meal vouchers) on chat, and their human agents showed zero empathy.

After aggressively pushing across multiple channels, an agent finally reduced the layover to 5 hours rescheduling the first flight, but with no apology. They also wiped out their paid seat selections. They do not care about vulnerable passengers.

Hi everyone,

I am dealing with a highly stressful situation right now and wanted to issue a strong warning:

if you are booking international flights for elderly parents or vulnerable family members, look elsewhere.

Air France just proved exactly how little they care about senior passengers.

My parents (76 and 73 years old, who only speak Italian) are flying from Boston to Milan via Paris (CDG).

Air France made an involuntary schedule change to their second flight, stranding them with a brutal 10-hour layover in Paris.

Leaving two seniors to sit on a public bench in a busy terminal for 10 hours is a massive health and safety issue.

Since this was 100% the airline's fault, I reached out to Air France via WhatsApp, iMessage, and Facebook Messenger to request basic EU Duty of Care—specifically, complimentary Lounge access or meal vouchers.

Here is why you should never trust them with your elderly relatives:

- The Bot is a Trap: Their automated bot, "Louis," is designed to keep you in an endless loop. You have to spam "Agent" or "Human" multiple times just to get placed in a queue.

- Zero Duty of Care & Zero Empathy: After waiting hours in the queue, the human agent on Messenger completely ignored the context of a 10-hour involuntary delay. Instead of addressing the Duty of Care request for lounge access or vouchers, they sent a cold, canned response: "We don't offer language assistance, we can only provide a wheelchair."

- Robotic "Customer Service": I kept pushing hard across all their channels, emphasizing that these were vulnerable passengers. Finally, the Messenger agent told me they rescheduled the first flight to bring the layover down to 5 hours. However, there was absolutely zero empathy. No apologies for the massive stress they caused, no offers to help further—just a robotic, unapologetic message.

- They Steal Your Paid Seats: Because of their involuntary flight change, the seats we had already paid for were wiped out. I had to go back into the system and scramble to select worse seats just to make sure my parents were sitting together. I will now have to waste time fighting for a refund on the original EMD receipt once they land.

Bottom Line:

When things go wrong, seniors need an airline with accessible customer service and actual human empathy. Air France failed on both fronts. They will try to ignore you, dodge their legal responsibilities, and treat vulnerable passengers like numbers.

If you can, book another carrier.

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u/Community_Feeling — 8 hours ago

Layover at CDG

We are flying from the US to BIQ with a layover at CDG.

Our flight on Air France in business lands at CDG at 6:10 PM on a Saturday. Our flight to BIQ departs at 8:15 PM on Air France Hop.

Do you think we should be worried about the connection time considering the delays with the EES system rollout? The flight isn't until June which I believe is busier travel times. Any thoughts on considering Air France Concierge? Thanks so much!

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u/jaymsfbay — 3 hours ago

Is Air France’s VIP arrival service is branded as Concierge (Conciergerie)” or “Meet & Greet worth the extra cost?

u/cs9722 — 4 days ago

Business Class upgrade offer

Edit: Booked it, thanks for the advice!

Been offered an upgrade from Premium to Business on a Paris to Singapore flight for 699 euro. Good deal? Also do upgrade prices often change after they are published?

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u/Beautiful-Two5182 — 7 days ago

I’d recently flew Air France and it serves some serious competition to the rest of the world 🥂❤️

I’m a heavy Oneworld and skyteam flyer with Emerald as well as Delta Diamond. I was nervous getting on the plane that it was going to be an ok experience as I’d flown the A350 a few times and it was nice but nothing major. Boy, this Boeing new business class config is superb! It has loads of space, the food was incredible and the team were bang on! I would do Air France any day!

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u/JoceTravels — 7 days ago

Premium Economy B-777-300 LAX --> CDG (11 Hours)

Is it worth it? $1200 for economy w seat selection vs $1700 for premium economy. If so, which seat is best for sleeping? Bulkhead window? I know people complain about Premium Economy on the old 777s but I feel like it simply has to be better than economy, right? Seat map in photo

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u/bigl3ft — 7 days ago

Worth switching seats to be closer to exit for short transfer window?

Our family of five is flying Den -> CDG -> FCO in early June (all one ticket). We purchased the AF concierge as our transfer time at CDG is one hour and this is our first time doing EES. No checked bags.

To increase our chances that it works out, should we reserve seats toward the front of the plane (row 19)? AF is offering that as an upgrade ("be among the first to exit") but won't there be two exits (or more) on a plane of this size? Will we be able to alert flight attendants that we have the tight connection and get off the plane quicker even without moving our seats? Right now we are in the absolute back of the plane (row 43) because we wanted the duo seats. Thanks for your wisdom.

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u/popcornshovel21 — 7 days ago