
THE REEDUCATION OF WEEDSHREK: EPISODE 8 (cont)
>Travis: Dr. Nox‘s office is sparsely decorated. Their desk is in the center of room, facing a large cabinet. The cabinet is locked.
>Justin: I'm going to, um… pull the cabinet over, so it‘s lying on the front.
>Travis: Okay… Travis: So you're gonna pull it over?
>Justin: Yeah. Pull it over.
>Travis: Okay…
>Justin: So it falls. Is lying on the door.
>Travis: Make a—oh, okay. Make a strength check.
>Justin: Not my strong suit, but uh… 16.
>Travis: Okay. Yeah, you're able to pull it over, and you're able to pull it over with enough strength that it doesn‘t just topple down. You're basically like, laying it down.
>Justin: No, I mean, I wanted it to topple over. ‗Cause if there was a motherfucker in there, I wanted to go ahead and blaze it. That was my thought
fucking crazy assumption from travis on what his player is trying to do here, weird as hell call for a roll, why was any of this left in
and with absolutely zero fanfare or excitement, we head into the ads.
>Travis: A couple announcements this week! First, I had a lot of fun making the dumb, fun intro. The music for that, I found, is by Maurice ―YoungBlaze‖ Clopton. It was perfect for what I needed. Also, a couple names in this episode. Dr. Frazier is named after Calla Frazier, CallaEve on Twitter. And Dr. Nox is named after Victoria Nox, Victoria_Nox on Twitter. So, thank you for contributing your names. And if you would like to maybe have your name for an NPC on The Adventure Zone, all you gotta do is tweet using the hash tag, TheZoneCast. Bonus points if you share links for the show!
oops, no kind and benevolent here, is someone grouchy from the feedback? weird self-congratulations on the intro. do you not have fun with any of the rest of this piece of shit? you should. someone should. or why does this exist.
and listener names are back! its been roughly half the campaign length currently since we've had one of these, and these are for two characters that don't actually appear in the campaign! no one is doing it like etc etc.
also just for fun i decided to look up nox's twitter. she abandoned it in 2023, but by searching thezonecast i can see she tweeted positively about the show about once a month since grad was announced (we love the blazing speed at which this podcast is released), with her last tweet about the adventure zone being from july of 2020 celebrating getting the petals graphic novel. the last thezonecast tweet from frazier is from 2.11.20. do you think she bailed before she heard her name? :(
anyway i also checked in on the current maxfun drive. it is 4.29.26 as i type this and they are at....6,705 of their 16,000 goal. how is your podcast network pretty good i do not think. they're not even going to be able to go out in their "intentionally" shitty sandwich boards :( another expense out of jesse thorne's pocket because you all hate women and trans people. kamala harris would be president if you had just donated. - joint statement from jesse thorne and nancy pelosi
i watched the malcom in the middle revival yesterday. its very solid. bryan cranston has only gotten better he's so fucking good in this. but it was funny and it was a delight to revisit all these characters and i'm kind of glad it doesn't overstay its welcome (it was originally a feature that got split, so its four episodes long). i think the public interest is there for a full on revival if they want it, but i know its taken them (and by them i mean bryan cranston, who has apparently been pushing for this revival for years) this long to make this because the show creator isn't interested in revisiting these characters for the sake of revisiting them, if he doesn't think there's a story worth telling, he's not going to agree to make more until there is. which i respect, but also come onnnnn we all love bryan cranston as hal. let him be hal.
back from the ads with this:
>Fitzroy: Now, fam, listen. I think we need to come up with a scenario that is gonna sort of bring the imps to us. And then, we kill all of them at once. Right? I don‘t—
>Firbolg: We could‘ve cleared out another room while this discussion took place.
>Fitzroy: I'm just saying, exterminators don‘t go looking for one bug at a time, right? They lay down a trap, and then they let the trap do the work. Let‘s do a trap! Let‘s do a proper trap!
trying to aggro every imp in this building at once is a bad idea you guys almost got tpk fighting four of them. but a trap could be viable. like you have a druid with moonbeam you make a choke point and you're gonna party. oh silly me i for one moment thought we were playing dnd, i take it back none of this applies to travis tea time
they want to know what would draw in the imps, they aren't sure what skill to roll.
>Travis: Make a check based on what you are strong at, and I will answer it in those terms.
god i've almost fallen for travis's trap (getting so brain damaged by this podcast regular things normal people do that travis sometimes stumbles into begin to look impressive). i was going to compliment him on the idea of framing the information differently based on what kind of check it is, but that's literally just baseline dming. also you can allow multiple types of skill checks to resolve an info gathering moment but you need to tell them which skills apply here and let them choose, do not say "just pick the one you're best at" that's terrible
>Travis: Um, so with an arcana check, um, and a 14, you know that, uh, imps are like, demonic constructs. They don‘t really hunger for things. They're not creatures. They don‘t feed. They are built to serve, y'know, some kind of demonic lord, or uh, in those terms, but they're not really like, creatures with, um, hungers or desires in that way.
this is also not framing it through the specific skill. like what would he have said differently here for a nature check? once again, this should have been delivered when they were trying to interrogate the imp. if fitz knows this information, then he looks tremendously stupid for not recalling that when trying to intimidate an imp. i will acknowledge it here once that dnd makes a concrete split between the term devil and demon, with them serving law and chaos respectively. it is actually like perfect for the theme travis wants to make his show about but i can't really ding him for not adhering to dnd lore when he's doing a homebrew setting. but yes, i did note that he says a demonic lord and not a devil here.
the fact that they do serve the bidding of a lower power could be interesting, it means that they are not here just doing random destruction, their actions are specific and geared at accomplishing something. or would if travis mcelroy had ever grasped a narrative before. i won't hold my breath for this payoff.
>Griffin: I cast Disguise Self on myself. This is a new spell. And it‘s a level one spell, so I do need to roll to see if… ooh.
>Argo: Where—where are you gettin‘ all these spells?!
>Griffin: From leveling up as a sorcerer. Uh, I—
>Travis: I think that was in character, not…
>Griffin: Oh, right.
>Travis: Not Dad being confused.
in the interest of fair and even coverage, i have to include this moment where travis actually stands up for his dad.
griffin casts disguise self to appear as some sort of demonic overseer and acts like he caught the trespassers and summons all the imps to see. clint wants to help sell the bit with a deception roll, and travis decides he will allow that if the firbolg also makes a roll. so they back off the plan because the firbolg won't lie. sorry, did i say won't?
>Justin: Not ‗doesn‘t want to do,‘ my friend. Like…
>Clint: He has no deception.
>Justin: Incapable. [laughs] Will not be able to. I am just standing perfectly still, in the most neutral position possible.
i won't put this completely on justin because i've pulled what is almost definitely the wiki page he read as "research" (aka the first result on google for firbolg) and it states: They were extremely honest and could not lie without feeling physical discomfort, even if the lie was by omission.
and like, i think you could read this as they have such a strong cultural aversion to deception that they experience a physical reaction, kind of like those people who are so racist they give themselves msg allergies. but of course, justin reads it as them being somehow biologically incapable of deceit, probably because he got bored and stopped reading halfway through the sentence.
what ensues is an honestly pretty funny bit. i mean, its a classic player has to continue to lie and keeps just saying shit style bit, but that's a classic for a reason. but it should really be noted this exists because travis once again is just saying no. this is off a 22 deception btw
they finally come close enough so griffin casts thunderwave. like it seems to me that if you had just taken a second to talk to your party instead of just doing a plan with no input from anyone else (mcelroy special) then you could have come to the conclusion that justin also has an AOE spell that can actually be targeted so that the rest of the party doesn't take damage. oh who am i kidding justin doesn't know what spells he has.
anyways bad news, travis remembered that imps get advantage on magic saves. too bad he forgot that they also are resistant to any physical attacks that aren't silvered. not that it super matters, because travis did let griffin get a +1 enchanted maul for basically free.
travis sounds so bored lmao
>Travis: Okay, well, he only had four points of life left, so um… you skewer him in such that his grandfather feels it. Like, way off in the distance. His imp granddaddy feels it and is like, ―Ooh, my arthritis is acting up!‖ But actually, it‘s how hard you have just skewered his grandson. And he melts into black ichor.
i think travis would have made a great pua because even though this is just wholly complimentary description, something about the way he says "well he only had four hit points of life left" makes it sound like clint did something wrong for using his completely resource-less ability sneak attack
griffin gets a nat20 on firebolt and travis decides he would rather do another riff on his already not funny "overkill" description, instead of checking the statblock and seeing imps are immune to fire
>Griffin: Um, I'm going to try and detect, like… conjuration magic, I think, right? ‗Cause imps are sort of conjured constructs. So… either that, or transmutation, because they're like, changing forms. But I feel like it‘s one in the same.
why is griffin addicted to nerfing himself? you don't have to specify which school of magic you are detecting. you just see if there's magic.
>Argo: Ahh. Aww, thank you, my friend! I feel great! Can you do that for yourself?
>Firbolg: I could. But in public, is embarrassing.
>Argo: Oh. Public healing?
>Firbolg: This is—this is a joke. Self-healing is permissible and beautiful.
justin: firbolgs are biologically incapable of any form of lie
justin: UNLESS I HAVE A BIT
i think i kind of just figured out why its so exhausting to listen to these guys now. they will, every time, choose a bit over consistent character work or world building. and that wouldn't really be a problem except they keep trying to present themselves as serious storytellers. its also an issue because at this point every other actual play that wants to be funny is skilled enough to make jokes that are in character and don't contradict established traits or features of the world. like i skipped a bunch, but even in the "you stab him so hard his grandpa felt it" with the imp that's a joke that doesn't make sense in-universe because you established imps are constructed, he doesn't have a grandpa.
>Fitzroy: Um, I got a little bit of poison… on a cut. But I think it‘s nothin‘ a good nap won't fix.
>Firbolg: Yes. I would love to help you. Let me just try to remember if you shocked me with lightning recently.
you ever get just little flashes of what could have been?
i....i guess in justin's "defense" he has only ever played casters, but him learning in real time that clint adds his dex modifier because he's using a dex based weapon is....
anyway. despite the 22 to draw out all the imps on this floor, griffin only managed to draw out about a third of the imps, because travis narrates six more birds bursting out of one of the rooms they hadn't checked, but they all flee upstairs, giving free OAs. travis still hasn't realized imps are resistant to physical dmg btw
>Travis: So, at this point, you have cleared out the main entryway. Admin one, admin two. Dr. Nox‘s office, exam room one, exam room three, um, and you… get, uh… there‘s some more conjuration magic from Dr. Frazier‘s office, and you didn‘t get any from exam room two, and you got some healing magic from Dr. Nox‘s office. And that‘s all of floor one. So, you can surmise that, most likely, the only room still containing any imps on the first floor is Dr. Frazier‘s office.
yeah a big problem with "hunt and destroy" mission objectives, and also probably the very reason travis decided to do one, is that you need to 100% the map. so here we go, despite multiple instances of loud combat happening in the lobby, there are still more imps waiting patiently in an adjoining room for you to discover them. yippee.
>Travis: Now, when you open the door to Dr. Frazier‘s office, unlike Dr. Nox‘s office, you would guess that, at some point in the past, you would‘ve described this room as lavishly decorated. But now, you're more likely to say ‗completely wrecked.‘ The painting of Dr. Frazier that hangs behind her desk has been drawn on; at least, you assume that the charcoal horns, glasses, and buck teeth were not originally part of the artist‘s vision.
>Various statues and potted plants have been smashed on the ground, and three imps are sleeping amongst the wreckage. Now, you get an opportunity attack, but I will tell all of you, because I am a kind and benevolent DM… if you try to sneak up to them, you are going to have to make a stealth roll, and it‘s going to be with disadvantage, because of all the broken pottery and stuff on the ground.
another classic travis description. "you'd call it lavishly decorated" you know. just imagine what you think lavish means, and its that. lazy asshole. and here he goes again with his stupid dm shtick. why would you say that up front? why would you give that away?
>Justin: I cast Moonbeam on them, in a cylinder that will catch all of them in this cylinder. They need to roll a constitution saving throw.
>Travis: Okay. Uh… okay, that one‘s got a fail. That one‘s gonna fail. That one succeeds. So, one of them succeeds, and the other two fail.
time to play along at home, chat. do you think
a. travis asked for what the DC for this con save should be and then edited it out
b. travis knows justin's spellcasting DC off the top of his head and managed to fail two of three rolls while rolling with advantage or
c. travis did not roll anything and is just arbitrarily turning this from a 3 imp fight to a 1 imp fight because he's very scared of attacking his players again because he's bad at combat balance
there has not been a single attack made by an enemy since the first encounter btw
>Travis: Well, but they are shape changers, which means, in that case, all three of them would‘ve failed. Um, because the advantage and disadvantage would‘ve cancelled out. And so, they all three get hit by 11 damage, and they are all three blasted into puddles of black ichor.
well the narrative they're sticking to is that travis rolled all three with advantage initially, failed two, and then after learning it would be 11 damage for failed saves and that shapechangers have disadvantage, they wipe this encounter before anyone can even roll an initiative. good thing those imps are such heavy sleepers. really lucky that magical demonic constructs that don't need to eat or have any desires do love a nap.
>Travis: Now, listen, I have to ask you. Only because our listeners at home are gonna ask. You're not even gonna go check out the healing stuff?
yeah i'm fucking sure travis. the listeners at home.
i was imagining like a filing cabinet because all travis says is its a cabinet, fucking master of description. it is instead i guess more like an armoire, its filled with medicinal herbs and stuff. now i'm just a poor country recapper who happens to work in a medicine adjacent field, but usually storage cabinets have glass so you can see what's inside
>Travis: Yeah! You get that back off without any additional damage to what‘s inside. Now, a lot of it is broken, mind you. But you find, um, one healing potion still intact, which is a 1d10 healing potion. Um, and you also see various, uh, different, like, ingredients and components for, uh, medicine. Y'know, herbs. Salves.
>Griffin: Nice, dude.
>Travis: There‘s some, uh, y'know, metals. That kind of thing.
>Griffin: Okay.
>Travis: Some flakes of stuff. And you also find… uh, well, a lot of the vials are broken. But you do find one potion of poison resistance.
one, how is he like so incapable of shutting up, twice griffin thinks he's done and then he just keeps on blathering. and two, boooo fucking coward if your players fuck up the cabinet you should destroy the shit in the cabinet. i know there was only ever a health potion and a poison resistance potion in there and you gave them both
LMAO my podcatcher fucking seized and self deleted the episode off my phone before i could finish, oh well those last two minutes are lost to time sorry byeeeeeeee