u/svga

Context: The Camp of the Saints is a 1973 dystopian novel by the French author Jean Raspail. The premise is that millions of poverty-struck people from developing countries have had enough of their situation and commandeer a bunch of ships and tankers and set sail towards Europe. They're not portrayed in a very flattering manner, more like a human mass that leaves destruction in its wake.

Amazon briefly delisted the book on April 17th, the publisher blaming it on bad publicity from an article published a day earlier where it was connected to J.D. Vance.

https://reddit.com/r/bannedbooks/comments/1sqyv3g/camp_of_the_saints_by_jean_raspail_has_been/

Highlights:

>>>>>I don’t like book bans, but when the main idea of a book is “maybe Western society isn’t racist enough,” I can make an exception. This book is despicable trash.

>>>>At some point, it becomes less a book and more a screed. And there's nothing about stocking diatribes on the shelf.

>>>There’s nothing about stocking gay porn on the shelves either. Which is what the right calls half of the books it wants to ban. See how this works yet?

>>That is not an apt comparison. The books that you refer to as "gay porn" are mostly books about people coming to terms with things. Camp of Saints is a racist screed that has led to proposed "theories" that have gone on to become testaments for other racists.

>> See how this works yet?

>The books you refer to as people coming to terms with things are actually gay porn. The books you refer to as racist screeds are about people coming to terms with the nature of mass third-world migration.

> We can do this all day.

> Just say you're unprincipled and have been using the ginned-up specter of "banned books" to hammer conservatives and move on.

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>>>Isn’t this the same mindset that anyone banning any book thinks? “I don’t like book bans but THIS one in particular deserves it”

>>No, this is the mindset of the tolerance paradox (Karl Popper). A civil society cannot tolerate the intolerant: "Popper posited that if intolerant ideologies are allowed unchecked expression, they could exploit open society values to erode or destroy tolerance itself through authoritarian or oppressive practices."

>Redditors who always spam and repeat ad nauseam "THE PARADOX OF TOLERANCE" have never read anything, let alone books by Popper.

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>>>"It's reviewers have been unanimous in their assessment of its abiding importance and relevance to contemporary debates."

>>>That debate being "Are non-white people really human?".

>>>I remember reading an excerpt from the book, describing a flotilla of immigrants coming it. To sum it up, it described the flotilla as a floating rape island spilling with feces and semen etc. Like, the sexual fluids were literally leaking over the side of the boats. Of course, everyone on this flotilla was dark skinned.

>>>The leader of the immigrants is the "Turd-Eater" a man who literally eats and plays with feces.

>>>This book, and anyone who appreciates it or likes it, is a racist. There is no question or argument about this.

>>>Vauban books is a white nationalist/supremacist publishing company.

>> /u/AskGrok As I recall the immigrants are portrayed as desperate,starving and miserable,rather than simply inferior locusts.

>Are you seriously asking

>https://preview.redd.it/555j8d75wewg1.png?width=827&format=png&auto=webp&s=a1d751052ffacc1f850369aa30c8722046303e9c

>This fucking bot if something is racist or not?

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Grok chimes in:

>>Yeah, that's a fair recollection from what I've seen in summaries and excerpts. Raspail does depict the migrants as a massive, wretched horde, ---

>Fuck this horse shit. I don't care what senior racist Elon Musk's AI thinks about a racist book.

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>>>As a librarian, I am against the banning of books...the operative word here being "books" and Camp of Saints is less of a book and more of a racist declamation. It would have wound up on my weeding cart one day or another.

>>"It's not a book because I decided it wasn't a book"

>>Bravo.

>Yeesh, relax, guy! What's wrong with a little levity, my dude?

>And it probably would have wound up on my weeding cart the same reason why Atlas Shrugged did: it was in poor condition and hadn't circulated in years.