u/sageking14

Greetings and Salutations Gate Seekers and Lore Pilgrims, and welcome to yet another "No Stupid Questions" thread

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Ya know one of my favorite parts of the Cities of Sigmar is the presence of steam-wagons and World Wars style diesel transport vehicles just exist.

They're right there in Cities being driven by folk dressed up as knights and the Ankh-Morpork City Watch. We've all seen the Cogforts, we know this to be true.

But I'm actually curious. Are any of you engineers by trade or mechanics or gearheads? If so what are your thoughts on the engineworks we've seen and read about available to Cities? Or the endrinworks of the Kharadron? Or daemon engines of the Helsmiths and Chaos at large?

Personally, I know almost nothing about engineering. So would love to hear your insights and thoughts.

There's the Eight Winds, Dark Magic, High Magic, Grudge Magic, a hundred more obscure schools besides. There's casual folk magic like minor cantrips or alchemy. Solid crafts like Runecraft and Soul Magic.

A truly mind-bogglingly massive amount of topics. Yet I barely understand any of it, and honestly I've always gravitated toward being a Fighter-type so even with explanations I might not get it. Yet still I ask.

What can those of you with a mind more oriented towards magic tell me? After all even if I don't get it posts like these are good for all those seekers lurking in the shadows. Yearning to learn but not sure what to ask.

And don't be afraid to get down and dirty by throwing Magic 101 or Basic Spells at me! Knowing is one thing but truly understanding that knowledge comes with discourse and listening!

So lately I started a little project on the Lexicanum to make Creature and Beast categories for each Realm.

Ya know. So folk like you can actually figure out what animals and plants originate or belong to any given realm without having to go through hundreds of articles.

So this got me thinking. I know for a fact at least two of our frequent community members are biologists. So why not ask what their thoughts on the setting's go at them are?

>Behind Ulgathern were his six brothers, gathered before the great statue of Grimnir in their coats of gold. Behind them were the guildmasters of both lodges. The stout matrons and males of the Mining and Gleaning Fellowships, the Kin-gather Matrons, the battlesmiths and loremasters and brewmistresses and a dozen others. The leadership of each lodge occupied the chequered floor on either side of the temple’s central aisle in strict orders of hierarchy, in most respects mirror images of each other.

Part I of "Volturung Road"

I don't got much to say or add other than sharing this so folk know Fyreslayers have non-Fyrd and non-Zharrgrimm leadership in the form of matrons, guild leaders, and things.

To clarify the title. The story has four Ulgaen lodges: Ulgaen-ar, Ulgaen-zumar, Ulgaen-dumar, and Ulgaen-kumar. The latter three scion lodges of the first which in turn is a scion of Volturung.

Post inspired by u/King_Of_BlackMarsh who asked a question about what can a pacifist possibly do in Zharrdrengi society a few days back. So I figured: A lot of people are probably curious about that.

>There is no singular church or temple that governs religious life across the Dominion of Sigmar. Instead there are the Cults Unberogen, a dizzying array of sects (sanctioned and otherwise) that worship Sigmar in various guises. The Brethren of the Forge are one such cult. They revere the God-King as a crafter of both empire and war, a hammer to crush all who threaten mortalkind. Meteoric iron is divine, a comet-borne gift from Sigmar's realm of Azyr, and the Mallus Forgepriests will fight (words I can't see) to claim any scrap of the substance.

City of Ash Handbook, Pg. 28

Working from a review video. So can only make out part of it. The excerpt on the Forgepriests is a decent bit longer than what I wrote up.

Interesting that Dominion of Sigmar is appearing more and more as the official name rather than Sigmar's Empire or Sigmarite Empire. Kinda like it. Dominion is more generic but feels more apt given much like the Holy Roman Empire that inspired it, Sigmar's civilization is a rather bizarre empire.

So good news. It appears the Mallus Forgepriests all belong to a Cult Unberogen known as the Brethren of the Forge. Good news because it gives us a prominent, model-represented major cult that has much nicer doctrine than the Cult of the Wheel.

As a start they see Sigmar as a defender of all mortals not just humanity. Which I feel is a definite boon to hear as that's more proof even if models are lost, in lore Cities remain multispecies.

Course I recently helped fix up the Cities' template on the Lex to separate extant and retired models. So like, Mutt deeply apologizes to all of you frustrated over model purges for not recognizing just how BRUTAL the culls have been. I definitely get the arguments that Freeguilds now take up way more focus than ever before. Dumb Mutt's fault for being lore only.

But! Apology is off-topic!

So-So. Brethren of the Forge. Worship Sigmar as a crafter of empires and wars, a hammer that smacks evil-doers. Venerate meteoric iron as a divine gift, generally view Sigmar as egalitarian in his defense of mortals.

From other stuff we know they can purify the ground better than Battlepriests through song and marching, associations with Power Metal are inevitable I am sure. Especially as they are crafters as much as warriors.

Lovely addition to Cities!

Warm tides to you all, my fellow Realmwalkers. So lately there's a lot more of you running around who are new. So I figured I'd share a quick bullet point list of the commonly used languages of the setting.

These are mentioned sporadically, haphazardly all across the setting's hundreds of sources. So getting a rough idea of who speaks what can be hard. So I figured it might help:

• Azyrite languages: The Azyrite languages, Azyri, the Celestial Tongues, star-tongue, and the many other names for this language group are the big one. These are the common tongues of the Dominion of Sigmar, among both Free Cities and Stormhosts, used widely by their trading partners.
• Khazalid: Khazalid dates back to World-That-Was, though like Azyrite it has grown into a language family. These are the common tongues of the Fyreslayers, Dispossessed, Kharadron, and Ironweld.
• Kharadrid: The Khazalid language that has developed among the Baraks of the Kharadron. Has its own dialects and regional variations.
• Zharralid: This language family may or may not be descended from Khazalid but it is similar. These languages are used by the Helsmiths/Zharrdron and Hobgrots.
• Aelfish: The Aelfish languages most likely descend from the Eltharin languages of the Elves. Myriad unnamed languages in this group are the common tongues of the myriad City Aelf cultures, Idoneth, Khainites, and Lumineth.
• Dark Tongues: The languages of Daemons leeched into the Realms thanks to Tzeentch. Used by Daemons as well as many followers of Chaos. I think we have a picture of the Tzeentchian Dark Tongue alphabet?
• Beast-Tongues: A collective term for the common tongues of the Gor-folk. I believe WHFB confirmed these descend from Dark Tongue.
• Queekish: The common tongue of the Skaven, a scant few others have been mentioned so it is no longer their only one. If you ever wondered why Skaven speak with so many verbal tics it may in part because because Queekish appears to use more physical components.
• Language of the Skinks: The as of yet unnamed language used by the Skinks of the Seraphon Constellations. This language includes verbal components, body language, hand gestures, scale color changes, and more. This is a big part of why Skinks struggle to fully convey their meaning to others.
• Ogorspeak or Basic Ogorspeak: The most common language used by Ogors, especially those of the Mawtribes. Originating as the Gutbuster language. As opposed to.
• Svorignar: The languages of the Beastclaw Raiders. They prefer to use Ogorspeak when communicating with non-Beastclaws, even other Ogors. But these languages are what they use to communicate with themselves.
• Orrukish languages: The Orrukish languages are the common tongues of the Warclans. You know these roughly if you're a Warhammer fans. Lots of usage of Gitz, zoggit, knowwotz. My friend Ur-Than theorizes this might mean that Orrukish took many loan words from Azyrite and other Order languages back when Orruks were in the Pantheon of Order's Great Alliance in the Age of Myth. One might also assume Grots speak Orrukish languages what with the similarities.
• Agloraxi: The language of the fallen Agloraxi Empire. Now before you judge the name. Bare in mind we are typing in the English language of the English people.
• Dragon-Tongue: The language spoken by Stardrakes and Dracoths, understood by their Stormcast allies.

There are many other named languages in the setting. And I am ever working to catalog them all. Many have almost no lore, others a staggering amount.

Others like Azyrite are narratively translated to whatever language the novel is written in and therefore has few of its rules and details explained. As that would make it confusing when a book says Bork-Bork is a Lork word translating to the common Azyrite as "Book". So narrative need means we'll likely never know what it's meant to be like. Outside the runes and squiggles on Stormcast gear.

But anyway. I hope this dossier was helpful as an intro, a mere foundation, to knowing what are more or less the common languages (a lot) of the factions use. The setting is still growing and finding itself, so it is incomplete for now.

For anyone wondering what happened to that Shepherds of Azyr Post. Here is a Link to it. The actual post by u/ExitMammoth from four years ago.

I am positive that it was a bot account as we've been having this problem a lot. Bots especially seem to love to target u/Gecktron a lot. I am flustered as I am unsure how to stop them from doing this beyond removing these bot posts and banning them.

So for that I humbly apologize to everyone effected.

Greetings and Salutations Gate Seekers and Lore Pilgrims, and welcome to yet another "No Stupid Questions" thread

Do you have something you want to discuss something or had a question, but don't want to make an entire post for it?

Then feel free to strike up the discussion or ask the question here

In this thread, you can ask anything about AoS (or even WHFB) lore, the fluff, characters, background, and other AoS things.

Community members are encouraged to be helpful and to provide sources and links that can aid new, curious, and returning Lore Pilgrims

This Thread is NOT to be used to

-Ask "What If/Who would win" scenarios.

-Strike up Tabletop discussions. However, questions regarding how something from the tabletop is handled in the lore are fine.

-Real-world politics.

-Making unhelpful statements like "just Google it"

-Asking for specific (long) excerpts or files

Remember to be kind and that everyone started out new, even you.