u/random_confused_guy

Negative changes on caffeine.ai (a rant)

Caffeine has honestly been disappointing ever since V3 dropped. It feels way more buggy than before and it’s getting annoying to even use. Right now I have this new issue where while I’m typing it randomly deletes my text in the prompt chat, and sometimes it just does not respond to your message so you have to send it again. I tried on multiple devices just to make sure it wasn’t my PC or browser and the same thing keeps happening.

Another thing is the bugs are way worse now. Back in V2 if it made a mistake it was at least related to the thing you asked it to change in the project. Now I keep getting bugs in completely unrelated parts of the project for no reason. And the most annoying part is Caffeine keeps saying it “found the issue” while wasting credits and changing absolutely nothing.

I spent the entire 40 credits from the basic plan in like 3 days just going in circles. Tried reverting versions, trying different prompts, different approaches, everything. Nothing worked. After that I finally just decided I’m not spending another cent on this and I’ll just use the free daily credits instead.

But then here comes the funniest part!

I log in expecting my daily credits and surprise surprise, I didn’t get any. Apparently now I won’t get any for the next 20 days either. And on top of that they removed the old 100 free credits for new accounts and replaced it with this garbage system where you only get up to 25 free credits a month.

And even that sounds better than it actually is.

Those 25 credits are split into tiny daily chunks of 5 credits while 1 prompt costs 2 credits so you can use only 4 credits a day. So realistically free users get 10 prompts a month. Before this we had 5 daily credits for 30 days which was 150 credits monthly 120 of those being actually usable.

But now we instead get less credits, worse performance, and somehow we’re supposed to pay more for it!? Tell me how this makes any sense? I would love to just go back in time and finish my project while we were still in V2.

At this point it’s basically impossible to build anything actually useful without buying a plan because V3 almost never gets things right in the first few prompts, keeps creating bugs out of nothing almost as if on purpose since it is hard to imagine wasting 40 credits without getting anything fixed, and now the interface itself is buggy with the previously mentioned issues of text getting deleted or ignored as you type your prompt due to this I write prompts in a different program and just paste them instead. Because of this even simple projects end up wasting your credits while you try fixing random problems it created.

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u/random_confused_guy — 4 days ago

As a beta tester who has made 20+ projects, written over 1000 prompts, paid for multiple subscriptions (spent $50+ so far), and invested countless hours into Caffeine, here’s what I’ve learned so far.

The biggest issue I have is that everything works amazingly… until you hit one problem. Once that happens, the issue often just persists, and no matter what you do, it stays there. At that point you’re usually forced to either start over completely or waste 100+ credits trying to fix one simple thing.

For example, right now I’m making a web game inspired by Minecraft. I’m trying to make slabs spawn naturally, but they keep generating in ways where they float. Originally, they worked. But when I tried to stop them from spawning inside other blocks, Caffeine kept making it worse. We went from slabs spawning inside blocks, to slabs spawning mid-air, being walk-through, and blocks falling straight through them.

That’s really the core issue: when you try to fix one bug, it often creates three more. So not only do you waste time trying to solve the original problem, but now you also have extra problems to clean up afterward.

Another common issue I’ve noticed with V3 (not sure if it’s a new issue) is that Caffeine seems incapable of restoring code exactly how it existed in a prior version. That makes no sense to me. For example, if I wanted to keep all current changes but restore the slab code exactly how it worked when I first introduced slabs, and I told Caffeine to do that, it would completely fail and rewrite it differently instead of bringing back the exact prior logic. Since version history exists, this should be much more reliable.

Another issue: the 3D rendering support is rough. If you want to make a game or anything involving 3D assets, you’re basically forced to generate them through chat because uploaded files (GLB, STL, etc.) don’t work properly. The funniest part is Caffeine will keep insisting those files should work, which can make you waste credits troubleshooting something that just isn’t supported well.

Some people say “just add an upload option to your website,” but the issue is those files aren’t permanently stored. This matters to me because I made an IRL board game with beautiful custom 3D models I designed myself, yet I can’t properly use them here.

Another issue is Caffeine sometimes just doesn’t respond to messages and acts like nothing was sent. I’ve also noticed this can happen with very long prompts.

Honestly, in my opinion, V2 Caffeine felt more consistent overall.

One smaller complaint: you can upload up to 50 files with 500MB storage, but realistically you’ll hit the 50-file cap way before you ever reach the storage limit.

Right now, Caffeine is really best for basic websites where complexity is low. Anything more advanced quickly leads to dead ends, wasted credits, or multiple detours before you can finish the project.

I like the vision behind it, and I genuinely wanted it to work. But for the kinds of projects I want to build, I’ll be stepping away from Caffeine and looking into other tools where I can properly upload 3D models and where the chat is more honest about the AI’s actual capabilities instead of wasting my time. I'll of course check back in a few months to see if any improvements were made.

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u/random_confused_guy — 16 days ago